It seems like a lot of people leave the back quiver at home when they head for a hunt, why? And if you do use one what are your pros and cons of it?
thanks,
Ari
Ari, i often use a back quiver when hunting and it had not impeded me in taking deer, goats, many pigs, foxes and rabbits . Its a great way to carry arrows but can take some getting use to.
I also use side stalker quivers and of late an Arrowmaster by Rod Jenkins which may be the handiest, quietest and quickest arrow loading quiver I have come across.
But don't discount the good ol' back quiver . Give it a bit of practice and you'll find its like a great way to tote arrows afield.
They have some drawbacks in that wearing a backpack is difficult and they suit wooden arrows the best as they are much quieter with woodies than alloys or carbons in my experience.....
I do most of hunting with one.
I've always used a backquiver. Pretty much what Ben says above.
Getting my leather business going again soon, this electrical work sucks. No time to hunt!
I have a new design on my workbench as we speak. Lot of drawings and work to get it together but the simplest thing when done.Very different. The first ptototype is almost done, but constant changes, nips and tucks as you build that first one. You guys will be the first to see it. If I can get a couple of prototypes done maybe I'll send a couple out for field trial to the hardcore backquiver hunters. I'll post lots of pics and ask opinions.
Got a broken hand so progress is not fantastic on it.
For some reason I trust it will be perfect David! Get that hand healed up and lets see some pics.
For many years I toggled between a back quiver and bow quiver. They both have their advantages for sure. I could never get used to the bow quiver - it always seemed to be problematic...noisy, in the way for tough shots from trees, etc.
I finally found what I consider to be the handiest if you are only going to carry arrows. It was originally designed by OL Adcock and is a side quiver that can be easily maneuvered around stuff when you are walking/stalking. Hangs in a tree quite easily and out of the way...quiet too.
Art Vincent made it for me about six years ago, if I remember correctly.
If Art made it, it must be pretty "ugly" huh? That guy is one talented dude.
I use a back quiver and at times they can be awkward and noisy if you hit a branch. But then again you can build a low draw style that seals the arrows in and they dont bang around.I would never put a quiver on a bow I just can't shoot with it on the bow.And a hip quiver makes my thighs look big :laughing: JMHO
I've been thinking about side quivers as well, but would like to use the same quiver all the time(stumping and hunting) and didn't think it would be as fast to draw arrows as my back quiver, what do you think?
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It seems like a lot of people leave the back quiver at home when they head for a hunt, why? And if you do use one what are your pros and cons of it?
thanks,
Ari
I always take mine to the woods with me.......The only draw back for me is, it is kind of hard to carry when you are taking in a climbing tree stand and a backpack.
I just loop it over one shoulder when I carry a bunch of stuff in with me. It is worth it to me not to have the extra bulk on my bow when I am in my spot. I just use a tree stand step to hang it off of when I am in my tree.
To Me a back quiver is the only kind of quiver. I have a basket quiver that can be worn as a side quiver, But I only use it like that for 3-D.
My leather back quiver only has one CON: Arrows fall out when bending over if I don't slide it to a side. Other then that.. Back Quivers to Me are more of a Traditional feel to Trad Archery.
don't like dealing with broadheads in a back quiver. have used a bottom foam block and leather bonnets, just not for me. prefer either a side sling quiver (safari tuff duiker, or my new jack bowers) or an efa bow quiver. the side sling and bow quivers use foam blocks to protect the heads and keep 'em quiet, extraction is easier than with a back quiver, too. it's good to have choices.
I watch the guys with back quivers at 3-D shoots and they look like contortionists drawing arrows and using both hands, one to bump up the quiver and one to fish for the correct arrow simultaneously craning their necks to find that one arrow they were looking for.
I can't use a bow quiver, just feels weird. I'm kinda on the fence between a side and back quivers.
BQ's must be broke in & very pliable to conform to your back. If so, they'll hold arrows perfect w/o noise. Takes awhile to get used to the BQ also. Once there, you'll stay. Stiffer newer BQ's can be a PITA.
I use to use a back quiver until i went on a caribou hunt. That back quiver wasa pain in the butt going through brush and trying to secure to a day pack. Once i got home i put a bow quiver on my bow and haven't regretted it once.
QuoteI watch the guys with back quivers at 3-D shoots and they look like contortionists drawing arrows and using both hands, one to bump up the quiver and one to fish for the correct arrow simultaneously craning their necks to find that one arrow they were looking for.
Ummm...i can get an arrow on a string pretty quickly from my back quiver with a minimum of movement . Just because some guys can't do it well shouldn't infer that some of us don't do it well..... :bigsmyl:
I have used one since age 8, so never really an issue.
HH style quiver.
Pro: Easy for me to draw an arrow from the quiver by the nock and place it on my string with out taking my focus off the target and maintain one smooth steady motion.
Pro: If it is properly broke in and forms to your back it holds the arrows in place and quite, even bending over to pick up an arrow the others will not come out.
Pro: Can be adjusted from your back to under your arm if navagating through thick brush, like a lot of othere style's.
Pro: Carry a variety of arrows at once. Broadheads, blunts, judo's, name it. Use a piece of leather lace to divide if needed.
Con: for most maintaining broadhead integrity in the quiver is a problem for most. What I do and works for me is ATTACH a foam block in the bottom for my broadheads, usally 3 or 4.
Con: It takes practice (for me) to maintain my ability's of using it, just like anything else.
There are other little things like other style quivers. I got a Jack Bowers stalker that I like but need practice with drawing an arrow out of it quietly.
Again practice with anything will improve ones abilitys.
Earl
Getting one that fits right makes alot of differents in what you will think of it. when you bend over it should tighten up in the middle and hold your arrows.
Always liked the back quiver. Wore out a Hill quiver several years ago and got one made of soft elk hide with a coyote fur around the collar. Used it for about 8 years until my granddaughter decided that she like it while shooting her new Hill youth longbow.
I just got a new soft leather back quiver from Craig at Howard Hill. Didn't use it too much during the last few weeks of the season, because I was using a bow quiver. But I now use it each time I go out to shoot. Feeling very comfortable with it now. Summer time and when the temps get into the 98 to 105 range, they can get a little warm, but that's a small price to pay to live in Texas...... :bigsmyl:
I bought one of Mikes Archery Leather medium Hunter quivers and I'm finding that I like it real well. The leather is already starting to form to my back as it is not really stiff. I am leaning toward using nothing but a back quiver for the entire next year. Might also buy one of the 22" softer Howard Hill quivers to use.
Main reason I gravitate more toward a side quiver (I use the old Screaming Eagle velcro model modified into a side quiver at my waist--like a GFA--love its versatility) than a traditional back quiver is that I like to carry cameras and other items with me and therefore usually have a day pack on as well.
During parts of the season, I'll utilize a Cat-Quiver which really gives me a little of both worlds plus fletching protection if wet.
But when I really want to feel as traditional as possible, I grab the old leather back quiver and stuff cameras, knives, and everything else I "need" into pockets. :rolleyes: I usually do this when my luck's been poor and I need some extra mojo. ;)
QuoteI usually do this when my luck's been poor and I need some extra mojo
Giddyup ! Ive been there mate !
I've got a side quiver and it is a pain walking in the woods with. No matter if I angle it forward or backwards the arrows always catch on something and I'm constantly reinserting them. While I'm not sure that I'd like taking a shot with it on my bow, it seems like a Bow Quiver makes sense, at least getting through the woods and briars. I always have to take my side quiver off anyway after I get set up so maybe the bow quiver is what I need....Phil
Sorry. I know your question was about back quivers and I've never used one. But I would kinda think they'd be more apt to have limbs and such catch on the arrows like my side quiver as some have stated. For target shooting and open ground I would think it would be fine but personally I'm saving my money for a bow quiver....Phil
Better try to figure out.No quiver's 100% perfect,back quiver have a traditional look and tha's fun and easy to use.
I lOVE THE BACK QUIVER for it's traditional feel and function,but, i'm going to try a quiver attached to the side of a possibles pouch this year for hunting.
I only use a back quiver while shooting out in the yard at targets. I could not imagine trying to carry a back quiver through the woods, with laurel, blowdowns, etc. with a treestand and all the rest of your gear on your back.
I only use a back quiver while shooting out in the yard at targets. I could not imagine trying to carry a back quiver through the woods, with laurel, blowdowns, etc. with a tree stand and all the rest of your gear on your back.
I have been trying both but the back quiver feels the best, I love how light the bow feels while hunting and I shoot about the same either way.
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I miss my Sitka pack though and plan on making a new quiver as soon as I can get to the leather shop. I want to add some pockets, a file holder and maybe a sheath for one of my knifes.
Tracy
That is a great picture Tracy.
Tracy, did you know you had a animal sit on your head for the picture?
Great photo there buddy.
Tim
From the Prairies of Wyoming, Canada and here in the Northeast...
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Great photos gentleman! I was hoping to see some pics of the back quiver in use. That Howard Hill 22" soft quiver is looking more and more tempting. :thumbsup:
Thanks David!
Tim, :biglaugh: I was glad that dead critter was sitting on my head, It was 10 deg. out there and the wind was howling!! :D I was stalking my way into a blind I had set up and took a few quick picks.
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This is a great thread and I have really been looking at the back quiver picks also trying to figure out which to build this spring.
Tracy
Here's my M.A.L. quiver that I'll be using until further notice. It really fits me pretty good.
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I also have this real nice one that I got about 5yrs ago. Don't remember who I got it from but, it is nice and soft and works well in warmer weather. I don't use it during the winter as it is to nice to get ruined by the Oregon rain.
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I know I can draw an arrow and have it nocked faster with my back quiver than a side quiver.And you can get a cross strap to make it fit like a glove on your back.
I like a side quiver (the GFA) for every day hunting. BUT, I prefer a back quiver for rabbit hunting.
My dislikes of the back quiver re that they ar loud and don't protect the broadhead edge well.
My likes are that you can really get an arrow on the string quickly.
for me,,, they are noisy with anything but wood arrows and dangerous if you fall forward you'll have a head full off broadheads.
I also found here in new england where the weather changes so much your either bundled up or not and for some reason I don'yt want to keep adjusting the back quiver.
hunting for me is a cat quiver,side quiver or lokota, removable bow quiver.
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I like a side quiver (the GFA) for every day hunting. BUT, I prefer a back quiver for rabbit hunting.
My dislikes of the back quiver re that they ar loud and don't protect the broadhead edge well.
My likes are that you can really get an arrow on the string quickly.
I've been thinking about making little leather pouches for my broadheads it would be a pretty good way to protect them from banging around in my back quiver and pretty easy to make as well.
Ari, you are somewhat leaning towards my design...I'll send pics when done.
Alright, I'd love to see them.
Here is my 3rd HH I have had. Getting it broke in. Just about there.
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Earl
speaking of Bow quivers do any of you remember the nicer back quivers forsale in the screaming eagle catalogs, they where made by one guy and had his name at the top of the page and they had very soft but very heavy duty looking leather,, I'd like to find out if he is still in buisness.