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Title: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Zradix on December 20, 2010, 05:52:00 PM
I've only been a member a short time.
This site has changed a lot.
There used to be quite a few hunting questions posted often.
Now there seems to be mostly bow/arrow/broadhead questions.

Today I posted a hunting question..2 responses. They were helpful and maybe no other thoughts were needed.
Ask about a broadhead and watch out ...lol

I'm not complaining.
This site and the people here have helped me in more ways than I can think of. The info I've absorbed here has just sorta become my knowledge base.

Anybody else notice the same?
Should we as a group try to change it?
I'm not sure it's a problem really.
Just seems different.

Maybe it's a cycle, and I haven't been around long enough to notice it.

Thanks
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Cherokee Scout on December 20, 2010, 05:58:00 PM
A lot of the guys are in the woods this time of year, many hunters do not get on line right now.
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Bjorn on December 20, 2010, 06:07:00 PM
I don't think this is unique to TG. The question in your hunting thread required real knowledge to answer-not everyone possesses that, whereas anyone can spout product features whether they actually know anything or not. An example would be: "those boots will keep your feet dry because they have a GT liner"; or that BH will give you a better blood tail because it is "factory sharp".
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: ron w on December 20, 2010, 06:10:00 PM
Topics also go in cycles,Hill bows,Black Widow bows, wood arrows, carbon arrows, B-50, Fast Flite. Many times just do a search on what your thinking and it's most likely on here. As long as your enjoying it all.........
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: drewsbow on December 20, 2010, 06:12:00 PM
This is still the greatest place on the net and the best group of people in the world . Yes we seem to have a change in general topic but I think that is due to alot of new to trad members with ?'s
Members come and go and we have lost some of the older members to other sites but this site is still the #one place to be.  Drew
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: billy shipp on December 20, 2010, 06:20:00 PM
There are many knowledgeble archers/hunters on TG.

Sometimes the first responder to a thread gives the best/correct advice, so others don't reply.

I reckon it depends on if you're wanting opinions or facts.
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: BWD on December 20, 2010, 06:24:00 PM
Subjects vary as hunting seasons come and go. Depending on the time of the year, it's either about bows, set ups, or hunting,etc. lol
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: xtrema312 on December 20, 2010, 06:46:00 PM
I have not noticed any difference in the couple years I have been on here.  If you are talking about your trail post,  I think you need to give it more than a half day.  Some people work during the day.  Also with good info to set the hunting situation, I think there are fewer possible answers with a hunting question than a question about everone's preference or opinion on equipment.
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on December 20, 2010, 07:06:00 PM
Seasons Change and so do topics.  Sit back , enjoy and feel the warmth of the campfire!   :campfire:
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: chanumpa on December 20, 2010, 07:11:00 PM
Im in agreement with billy shipp and Bjorn.These guys sure come through when a guy has a problem or is really stumped.Im sure of that.
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Bowwild on December 20, 2010, 07:14:00 PM
I'm with Extreme312, I still see quite a variation of topics. Like others have also written, topics sort of go in cycles.

If I don't respond the reasons are generally as follows:

1. Didn't see the topic.
2. Don't know or can't relate to the topic.
3. Someone has provided what I would have.
4. The topic has been handled many times over.
5. The title topic doesn't interest me.

Even if the topic has been covered, I will often post because I realize its easy, if one doesn't conduct a search, not to know the topic is a repeat. I imagine it is sometimes difficult to think of something new under the sun.

There are certain kinds of equipment topics that I have no interest in so I won't even open them.
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: greyghost on December 20, 2010, 07:18:00 PM
John, I just noticed your trail question (good question) and the first couple of responses were close to what my basic response would have been, but there are other variables that could effect ones reply. With only general information even the most knowledgeable hunter could give their opinion and then may not be correct.

I think you got some great info from those that replyed and a good base to see how it works out in your situation. And then work towards putting other pieces of the puzzel together.

So far as changes to the site, I have not the clue since I just joined.

Earl
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Steve Clandinin on December 20, 2010, 07:47:00 PM
Bowwild and the others are right.Many times its been answered.
BUT i think its time for some hunting tales alot of the older fellas,myself included have had many bowhunting experiences I think you;ll like some of our storys.I'm just going over my notes and recalling many great experiences with some monster deer I've had in the last 40 years.So get some more wood for the fire and I'm hoping in a day or two to start this thread  " Story Time-The Monsters That Got Away"
Stay Tuned !LOL
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Rob DiStefano on December 20, 2010, 07:57:00 PM
nah, trad gang is not at all "changing".

the diversity of life is full of ebbs and flows - sit back and enjoy the ride!  the cycle comes full circle sooner or later!  :cool:
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on December 20, 2010, 08:04:00 PM
hmmmm.....
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Robert Honaker on December 20, 2010, 08:04:00 PM
I don't notice anything different.
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Zradix on December 20, 2010, 08:10:00 PM
It's probably just me.
I haven't hardly ever posted "hunting posts" myself.
I truly don't know a whole heck of a lot about hunting. I guess I know just enough to know I don't know didly.

Thanks all.
Just a crappy day maybe.

This is STILL the best palce on the net.
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: bigugly1 on December 20, 2010, 08:18:00 PM
I'm on many ither forums and they all go through cycles depending on time of year. Same as you will notice members come and go. So amny hunters are doing that right now they have no time for this and so many shooters are on down time from target and 3d tournies.
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Mack Marine on December 20, 2010, 08:23:00 PM
I have not seen a change. For me I read more than posting. Best place to get a answer for sure. My bet most guys are hunting only a few weeks before the fat lady will sing...
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Bill Carlsen on December 20, 2010, 08:38:00 PM
The biggest change I have noticed, and I think it is a positive one, is more open mindedness about the whole traditional thing. I remember when I got my DAS recurve there was almost religious fervor on both sides of the issue as to whether or not it was traditional. Now, bows like my DAS are not only tolerated but accepted. Along with that change has been more and more interest, it seems to me, in getting bows tuned properly, arrows that shoot straight, emphasis on really sharp broadheads, proper form, etc. Even though there are still debates about single bevel, double bevel, multiblade, single blade, etc. the discussions have been "in bounds" compared to some other sites...lots of mutual respect on this site so debates tend to be honest and based on real life experience rather than conceptual hypothesis. In other words, guys here seem to know what they are talking about, can back up their thoughts with real life experiences and still maintain an open mind about others who  may have had different results and made different decisions about their equipment, hunting techniques and other issues. It's my "go to" site.
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Bowwild on December 20, 2010, 08:44:00 PM
Zradix,
I certainly don't mind you wondering about whatever is on your mind.  Once in a while I'll start a thread and wonder "where everyone went"?  I've also gone through a spell or two where I thought I should change my handle to "threadkiller" as my posts sometimes are the last one's posted.  

If at first you don't get the responses you want or need, just reword them and post again.  OR....send Mudd a PM and ask him to post the topic...he's gotta be the most loved fellow on here.... I'm just fool'n with you Mudd....I guess that would be me....playing in the dirt?  There are some on here I wouldn't mess with but I can tell that Mudd and I both read from the same book.
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: chanumpa on December 20, 2010, 08:49:00 PM
See ,as it turns out you question brought out a lot of great dialogue.Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: bad arrow on December 20, 2010, 08:56:00 PM
Hunting seasons are starting to wind down now so I guess the hunting stories and pics are going to parallel that. Many take vacation days on or before Christmas prior to when the really cold weather sets in. I'm still hunting but I think the reader here would become quite bored of me telling stories and showing pics of how many squirrels I've been seeing.....Phil
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: highcountry on December 20, 2010, 09:23:00 PM
I've been on this box more the past few weeks than all year. Normally I read a few post and too busy for much else. Been on many work days off lately.  Making arrows,splicing feathers, sniffing glue and paint. While they are drying, I've been on Tradgang. So much my wife is a little worried I am a Trad nerd. Mostly my post are being a smart #@$. Work is pretty ugly at times and this is where I relax. I have only been shooting 35 years or so , so I let the old Masters answer questions. I sure have made a ton of friends here on Tradgang!
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: seabass on December 20, 2010, 09:55:00 PM
i'm with rob.it ebbs and flows.if it has been answered or i don't have and educated response,i will not respond.there is no reason to.there are alot of great hunters on here that know alot more than me.i would rather them answer than look like a fool and give bad advice.just my opinion.tradgang is the best place to be for advice,steve
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: BrianfromTulsa on December 20, 2010, 10:39:00 PM
One change I've noticed in my time here is that there used to be alot more self bowyers and How-to's concerning bow makers and primitive tackle.

Granted there is still alot of "primitive" information changing hands, but from my observation, I think the majority of posts are of the lam bow, carbon arrow type as opposed to the self bow, cane arrow, stone point type.

I'm happy either way.  I May be right or wrong but still my favorite place on the web.
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: ThePushArchery on December 20, 2010, 10:53:00 PM
Traditional archery is gaining popularity by the day. Our hunting club 4 years ago consisted of 150 members, 15 of which shot traditional. Now there are 3 times that many traditional shooters in just the past 4 years...

I think the questions are more arrow, tuning, and bow related b/c there is a flooding of "Newbies" to the Trad scene. They are asking the "crawl before you walk" questions...

And personally, I love seeing it!!!!!

Every time we see a question that we've seen 100 times, it just means one more traditionalist joined the ranks! Gotta love it!
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on December 20, 2010, 11:09:00 PM
I've been a Member for a few years Now and YES it has changed.. But around hunting season some posts don't get the replies as they would in the summer.
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: GWC on December 20, 2010, 11:43:00 PM
Im personally still in the crawl before you walk stage,lol.i havent asked many questions on the hunting aspect yet because im still learning about my bow and the arrow set ups.Iv hunted all my life and killed quite a few deer,but only about ten with a bow,and all compound.but all of my bow kills were within range of my longbow.so i dont expect the hunting aspect of it to change very drastically.So right now its mostly about arrow building and my bow setup.at some point i hope to have a little more wisdom to give back.Iv been helped so much on this site.I also trap alot,and on some of those sites if a newbie comes on there and asks a question that only a newbie would ask,there will be more guys on there belittling him about asking the question than actually helping by answering him.because of this,some of those new members have never returned to the sites.But iv never seen anything on here like that,everybody is very welcoming and willing to help.In turn this site and the sport will continue to grow.
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Steve Clandinin on December 21, 2010, 12:23:00 AM
When many of us on here started hunting there was no one or anywhere to go for help.I shot my first deer with a recurve in 1973.Since this time Traditional Archery has progressed to the state were at now.I APPLAUD IT! This site has done so much for our sport and I for one will fight and do what I have to to keep it going for our newcomers and for our sport and lifestyle as a whole.
Two years ago I helped four young fellas in our town set-up there equipment,it was all compounds ,acouple weeks ago I bumped into them and all four stated the same thing ,they all wanted to shoot longbows and recurves,would I help them? Times they are a changing.
In answer to your question we will all help you.Period.
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Don Stokes on December 21, 2010, 12:58:00 AM
Just wait 'till February. Deer seasons closed, turkeys not gobbling yet, weather miserable, and cabin fever sets in. That's when the weird stuff comes out!    :)
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: greyghost on December 21, 2010, 01:22:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Don Stokes:
Just wait 'till February. Deer seasons closed, turkeys not gobbling yet, weather miserable, and cabin fever sets in. That's when the weird stuff comes out!     :)  
:biglaugh:  You got that right Don.


Earl
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: magnus on December 21, 2010, 06:01:00 AM
Remember it's the holiday season also people are busy with family obligations and trying to keep things together during what can be a hectic time of year. It goes in cycles just like the seasons of the year. Merry Christmas!

Keeping the Faith!
Magnus
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: lpcjon2 on December 21, 2010, 06:05:00 AM
yup Don said it come the off season, you scratch your head at some post's and thats when the debates get going.It's like getting dressed up for Halloween on Christmas it looks confusing but you want to try it. With the influx of newbies you will be the one passing on what you have learned from the past six months and the circle of Trad comes around. Remember this site will always be easier than having a girlfriend on the side,plenty of good conversation without the hassle. They just don't look as hot.   :campfire:
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Don Stokes on December 21, 2010, 07:16:00 AM
I dunno, if Terry keeps posting those pictures of chics shooting in bikinis...
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Mudd on December 21, 2010, 07:25:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Don Stokes:
I dunno, if Terry keeps posting those pictures of chics shooting in bikinis...
Please post the link to this one. I must have missed it...lol

God bless,Mudd
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: wollelybugger on December 21, 2010, 07:26:00 AM
You learn some great things on here and some not so great things. You will notice that there are tech people who like to tinker and old timers who just shoot. I fall into the last group and am amazed at how people can go on about arrow spine and penetration, etc, etc, etc,. The bottom line is hunting with a bow and shooting a bow takes years of experience to master if you ever do. You can learn something new every day. The bottom line it is the bow, arrow and string, don't make it too complicated, you still have to make the shot no matter what equipment you are using.
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: maineac on December 21, 2010, 08:05:00 AM
My two cents is that you had some good answers to your question.  I looked at the post and since our deer trails are not concentrated like other areas in the country I didn't feel I had the experience to add anything.  But read the responses and learned something.  There are a lot of sites you can go to that you would have been deluged with opinions and thoughts, most of which would have come from armchair experts.  I have found that the folks on this site post when they have experience and knowledge to share, so the advice or comments are worth ten times those potentially found elsewhere.

Also people have been talking and living hunting for months now.  Even addicts need some down time. As the season winds down there is less ferver to discuss topics that have been rehashed several times since mid summer, as everyone was building up to the next season. Act on the answers you got and see how they work out.  Then let us see the pict. of that big buck you kill on one of the skinny trails.
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Burnsie on December 21, 2010, 01:18:00 PM
Lots of times depends on who makes the post.  Some guys will get 5-6 pages of replies regardless of the topic.
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Larry m on December 21, 2010, 02:50:00 PM
Nothing to take personal. Sometimes you will see your post come back up months later. As stated above, this is a busy time of the year. TG is the best place to come for all aspects of Traditional Archery and you will receive many different perspectives on the subject.
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Zradix on December 21, 2010, 02:50:00 PM
this is getting off topic.
I understand why.
Hell yes.
I did get some REALLY good responses.

It wasn't so much a cause and effect type post.

Just a general observation.
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Huntschool on December 21, 2010, 03:35:00 PM
One more thing regarding the "types" of posts.

We are now a techno society.  The younger folks, or newbees, have found out that there is information out there that will help you along the road to whatever proficiency you want and much of that is internet based....  Trad Gang!

That is one of the things that goes on here.  Yes, as others have said there is a bit of a season to it all.  

Enjoy the time and the ride...  Your questions will be attended to.
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: 30coupe on December 21, 2010, 03:36:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Rob DiStefano:
nah, trad gang is not at all "changing".

the diversity of life is full of ebbs and flows - sit back and enjoy the ride!  the cycle comes full circle sooner or later!   :cool:  
I agree with Rob. The only real change here is the 16,000+ folks who have joined since I did! I think that's a good change.

Post in the evening if you want quick responses. A catchy title doesn't hurt either. Even though you can search and probably find info on just about every topic, as we keep adding members new perspectives are added to old topics. Sometimes I skip over the ones that have been    :deadhorse: ,
but often I'll miss a topic because they seem to slide down the page so much faster these days (more members will do that). Unless it's one that really gets everyone going, you may need to bump it yourself these days.
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: ChuckC on December 21, 2010, 03:45:00 PM
Trad Gang has changed, but not so much in the past few years as since it started.  Not saying it changed in a bad way, just changed.
ChuckC
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Rob DiStefano on December 21, 2010, 03:50:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by wollelybugger:
... The bottom line is the bow, arrow and string, don't make it too complicated, you still have to make the shot no matter what equipment you are using.
ah, a voice of reason and reality!    :readit:  

all the techie chatter in the world can't make up for one good trad bowhunt with whatever gear that makes ya both happy and consistently accurate.    :thumbsup:  

peace on earth, comrades of the bow!      :notworthy:
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Blaino on December 21, 2010, 04:11:00 PM
I'm with Mudd on this one!.........
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Zradix on December 21, 2010, 10:30:00 PM
Mr. Green,

I am thankful.

This IS a great site.

It doesn't have to be nor should it be what I want only ....that would be pretty UNenlightening.

I'm only asking the other guests what they think of the party.

Calling them training wheels doesn't do anything except belittle those who enjoy archery in a different way from you and I and make US as a group sound like snobs.

oh yeah..the disclaimer..just my opinion...
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Stone Knife on December 22, 2010, 06:03:00 AM
:dunno:
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: olddogrib on December 22, 2010, 01:09:00 PM
Still the best trad site going, bar none.  With the phenomenal growth I've seen a growing tendency for people to reply to posts without first reading the responses.  You don't need to reiterate what has already been said by others unless somebody is seeking a consensus or poll. You also miss out on good info that way.  Don't know, this may be a side efffect of the "mimimum post rule" causing addiction to the sound of one's own typing!  Okay, I've had my Grinch moment, resolve nothing less but warm and fuzzy thoughts for the rest of the holidays.  Merry Christmas to all!
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Zradix on December 22, 2010, 01:51:00 PM
Nice signature.
We should all thank the Great Spirit more often.
Title: Re: Tradgang is changing..quickly..or is it?
Post by: Longbow Jake on December 22, 2010, 01:57:00 PM
Yea me to Blaino. Come you cant leave us hangin   :biglaugh: