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Title: Spiral Flu Flu's...more trouble
Post by: jfelkins on December 19, 2010, 05:03:00 PM
Ok, I just got my fletching tape and started building my spiral flu flu's It's sticking a lot better than the ducco I was using before except at the ends. They keep pulling up! Any tips? I'm putting a dab of super glue at the end but the fletching won't stay down long enough for the super glue to set up. Super glue is all I have right now.

Thanks!
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Post by: Swamp Yankee on December 19, 2010, 05:05:00 PM
Pin the end down if you're using wood shafts.
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Post by: jfelkins on December 19, 2010, 05:14:00 PM
Sorry, forgot to mention. I'm using aluminum.
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Post by: Grey Taylor on December 19, 2010, 05:18:00 PM
Spring clamps, don't worry about messing up the feather. If you don't have clamps, reinforce a clothspin with a rubberband around it and use that.

Guy
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Post by: jcarter on December 19, 2010, 05:39:00 PM
go to the how to resources on this forum......

There is a how to in there for spiral flu flu's....pretty sweet!
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Post by: rastaman on December 19, 2010, 05:47:00 PM
The clothspin works great.
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Post by: shortstroke 91 on December 19, 2010, 07:20:00 PM
I wrap my ends with dental floss or artificial sinew to hold the ends down good.
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Post by: greg fields on December 19, 2010, 08:12:00 PM
I do the same as shortstroke.
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Post by: BCWV on December 19, 2010, 08:44:00 PM
Yep, dental floss on the ends works great.
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Post by: GUYZER on December 19, 2010, 09:30:00 PM
I have been making spiral flu-flu's for 30 years and
I have learned the hard way by trial and error.
First you have to be PATIENT.
I use regular fletcht-tite cement and 2 clothespin.
One to start the feather and one to finish the feather. Then I let it set for 24 hours and then I put a drop of glue at each end and your arrow is ready.

MAY THE SPIRIT OF FRED BEAR GUIDE OUR ARROWS.
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Post by: fish n chicks on December 19, 2010, 10:25:00 PM
I've noticed with mine, it helps to actually nock an arrow, and this is especially good if you have the nocks with the little indexing tabs, but then i'll mark the closest to the start of the feather on the outside of the shaft, and cut that with an exacto. This has helped me keep my flu-flu's pretty good. Only thing is you'll basically have a cock side to the feather at that point. Mark a little spot on the top of your nock and make sure that side always faces up.

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Post by: WhiskeyMike on January 13, 2011, 03:08:00 AM
If you buy the new spiral flu-flu feathers direct from Trueflight (half the price of regular full length) they will send step by step instructions.  I use the recommended contact cement and it's fast and very easy.  The only way to go.
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Post by: stringstretcher on January 13, 2011, 05:09:00 AM
What I have found that works just great is to take the quill and soak it in water for a few minutes.  Then use a cloths pin to hold one end down and spiral the feather around a shaft and put a cloths pin on the other end.  Now let that dry.  In the mean time, take your fletching tape and put it on the shaft first, making sure to spiral it right for the wing feather you are using, and then when the feather that you pre spiraled is dry, wrap it onto your arrow on the tape you have already laid down.  Sure makes it easier than trying to keep the tape away from the shaft while spiraling.
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Post by: lpcjon2 on January 13, 2011, 05:26:00 AM
I use the spring clamps as well and also pre wrap some on another shaft the night before with just the clamps(no glue-can put 2 or 3 on a shaft)this helps in getting them to build a memory to the spiral shape. And sanding down the quill a little helps as well.
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Post by: Don Batten on January 13, 2011, 05:27:00 AM
a small pc of heatshrink tubeing at both ends works good and gives a smooth transition at the front so the quill work cut your hand if your shooting a selfbow with no shelf. DB
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Post by: ronp on January 13, 2011, 06:02:00 AM
Her is Truflights spiril flu-flu website:

http://www.trueflightfeathers.com/flu-flu.htm
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Post by: $bowhunter$ on January 13, 2011, 09:17:00 AM
where do you uys get the half price flu flu featherrs at? ive always made mine strait fletch but seeing the popularity of the spiral ones i might have to try them.

thanks,
steven
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Post by: stagetek on January 13, 2011, 09:54:00 AM
ronp, Thanks for the link.
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Post by: Jerry Jeffer on January 13, 2011, 10:04:00 AM
I tried that link, and none of the distributors listed carries them.  Any more help on locating these half priced feathers? I don't mind using the stiffer full length, but a $ is a $.
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Post by: hova on January 13, 2011, 10:30:00 AM
i do self nocks , so i use artificial sinew on all my fletching. start with a wrap or two of sinew , and a drop of superglue to hold that. the wicking instant type CA.

then i have had decent luck two different ways. one is to tie the tips of your feathers in now , spaced evenly around the shaft , then wrap your feathers , putting a drop of superglue along the quill here and there as you wrap , then once you get to the end , another drop of glue , and a small hair rubberband (the little black ones).

go back and wrap your other feathers the same. i just use one rubber band , but if your glue isnt setting up fast enough , just wrap a second band right below the first. then cut the first so the second fletchs lays nice an tight.

same for the third feather if you use that many , then trim the ends.

then i wrap the A. Sinew the opposite way i wrapped my feathers, weaving in and out of the barbs. kind of like wrapping hackle...


once i get to the end , i put a few wraps around the base of the feather end , and wrap a smooth layer back the the throat of where my self nock is. once i am to the throat , i put a drop or two of superglue on the whole rear threat and spread it around. then i whip finish a little ball or buildup at the base of the nock to reinforce it a little...


once thats done i go over the whole thing with superglue. front thread wraps , the criscross and the feather base as it spirals , then i coat the back threads.   havent had one come apart or move yet.


you could just wrap the front and back if you like , i just like to keep the thread i already started. another thing i started doing , was using epoxy. it doesnt soak in nearly as well as CA. it produces a shinier finish , and is a little more solid feeling , but i havent used the epoxy ones enough to know if it will crack or yellow...


almost forgot , the A. Sinew i have is 4 strand , highly waxed natural color. the big spool... i cut about 3-4' , spit the 4 strands ,and just use one strand per arra. my first arrows i used the whole piece of A. Sinew , and the wrapping really sticks up and kind of stand out on the otherwise smooth arrow.


thats just how i do it... i use dowel rods and craft store feathers so far because i dont have the loot to buy a whole bunch of turkey feathers and shafting , just to mess around in the back yard and go after bunnies.
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Post by: $bowhunter$ on January 13, 2011, 03:42:00 PM
BUMP

for someone that knows where you get the half price full length feathers.....
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Post by: NoCams on January 13, 2011, 03:50:00 PM
The AMG brand of feathers are lots cheaper than Trueflights. 3 Rivers carries them I think.
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Post by: lpcjon2 on January 13, 2011, 03:57:00 PM
If you sand the quill it works a lot better and wraps easier.And inexpensive feathers can be found on any turkey shoot.    :goldtooth:
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Post by: thunder1 on January 13, 2011, 05:42:00 PM
I used super glue and a clothes pin to hold the ends down worked great.
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Post by: WhiskeyMike on January 16, 2011, 02:58:00 AM
Jerry Jeffer,

I couldn't find anyone who had them so I bought mine direct from Trueflight.  Yes, they were half the price of regular full length feathers.  Give them a call. The Trueflight people were great and the order came quick.
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Post by: Jerry Jeffer on January 16, 2011, 05:03:00 AM
Thanks whiskeymike!
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Post by: J. Holden on January 16, 2011, 07:03:00 AM
I echo the clothespin idea.  Worked on my alluminum's.  Good luck.

-Jeremy  :coffee:
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Post by: KHALVERSON on January 16, 2011, 07:45:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by batman:
a small pc of heatshrink tubeing at both ends works good and gives a smooth transition at the front so the quill work cut your hand if your shooting a selfbow with no shelf. DB
thats a great idea
ive been using cloths pins
but sometimes the quills still tear up my shelf material
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