hey guys my parrents told me that for xmas i get to pick out a recurve (awsome!) i was put on a $350 maximum limmit. i really would rather have a new recurve. it has to be 50# and atleast 58" long that is able to have a 30" draw lenght capability. opinions really are needed. ive been looking at the samick red stag and the bear grizzly hunter any reviews or comments are helpfull thanks guys
steven
Don't forget to look here on the classifieds.You can find some custom bows used but like new for $350.
yea i seen there on the classifides and i love to order a custom but my parents said they just want to go to cabelas or bow shop to get it instead or messing with the internet. ive looked at 3 bows and am stuck on which and why. 1 bear grizzly hunter 2 martin x150 3 sammick red stag
i would like to hear some reviews and comments on all of them and others that would be a good reliable bow.
thanks,
steven
if you go to cabelas you can shoot the grizzly and the martin and decide from there. my 0.2 cnts.
The advantage of actually handling one when buying cannot be overlooked. Grip feel is a big part of enjoyment for a recurve. Also, with a custom bow, it may be 14 ot 18 months before you receive it.
You and I share a 30" draw length and you may find some recurves don't accomidate that well. I have pulled (or tried) 58" bows that got ugly before my anchor was reached, not just in weight stacking but in finger pinch. The good news is some designs, notably the Bear Kodiak Hunter, pick up a turn of speed from working the tips beyond the 28" draw.
Expanding on what Stumpkiller said... consider a 60 / 62" model for a 30" draw.
Like stumpkiller said, you want to go somewhere that will let you shoot a couple of the ones you want. Also as stykbow said, you should really consider a 60 or 62 inch model if you truly are drawing 30".
Check out Timberhawk bows that Lost Nation sells, good price on good bows.
i have a 68" bow now and its a little long for hunting (still can be done just hard to manuver) and since every1 said about a 60" bow then the sammick red stag fells in there. any opinions on sammick?
someone has have to have uses atleast 1 of these bowS?
I have tried Samick in the past and they do have value.
They are more well known for their target bows IMO however and they do hold World Records in that arena.
-And they are made in Korea. In case that sort of thing is important to you.
IMO, I would tend to steer you toward the classified adds here. You would get more bang for the buck looking in the used market. There are a lot of good bows that are just as good as new for half the original price.
Quesion, why are you set on a 60"? Being new to trad and with your long draw, I would not recomend it. FWIW, I hunt with a 64" recurve and have a 31" draw and it fits in a blind or tree stand just fine.
I'd also recommend going lighter in weight. At 30", a 50# bow will be more like 55#'s.
Put a couple of hundred with the 350.00 and get what you want...PR
the only reason i ask about this is because since i am sorta new to trad archery (2nd year) im not so up to date on bows and equipment and was hoping there would be some nice productions bows people could recomen in the $350 pirce range.
thanks for all your help,
steven
Didn't mean to discourage you at all. If you really have your heart set on an in stock bow at Cabelas, then I would do with others have mentioned and just go and shoot what they have in your price range. I'm sure you will be able to find the right one for you. Best of luck and let us know how you make out! Stick with it.
I shot a Red Stag and the Sage at a local shop.
I ended up buying the Sage for my step son. He shoots it very well.
The Sage runs about 130 bucks and the Red Stag was about 200.
A Tradgang Sponsor Lancaster Archery sells the Samicks as well. http://www.lancasterarchery.com/index.php?manufacturers_id=14&osCsid=basksgb15uogkes6s3mjfasn06
I believe the Samick Sage and Deer Master are both 62" AMO.
Have you thought about a Longbow at all. You can get a Maddog Mutt for 220 plus 40 for shipping and tax. They are a custom bow and shoot extremely good. http://www.maddogarchery.com/
I don't think I would pay the "New Price" for a Bear or Martin when they can be had on the classifieds for half the price.
Checkmate Bows are not much over 350 brand new and are known to shoot very good. You can have a Check Mate custom made for your draw length. That is probably worth the extra money. http://www.recurves.com/sabre.html
Good luck and let us know what you decide.
Paul
I'd have to agree with Bob.... classifieds first. I feel you could get a much better bow for the amount you will pay at Cabelas.....
yea i thought about a longbow. but since ive never had any exsperience with them i just kinda put them off to the side. is there a true huge performance defference between longbows and recurves?
Recurves are faster than a Hill style longbow but thats not always true if you get a high performance R/D longbow..
The Quinn line of bows are priced really well about $275 new I think. Havent' heard anything bad about them at all. You might check them out! Jason
I know you said recurve, but I have heard good reports on the Bear Montana. At your length a 62-64" bow would be great to start.
Perhaps you can get to a shop and shoot a couple of different kinds.
As many have said, the classifieds here are a great source of used bows. I have bought three bows here and all have been just as advertised or better. You can get a lot for you money.
BUT that begin said, your parents have the say here. I have shot all three of the bows you listed. Any one of them will hunt just fine. The Martin is a 60 inch bow, the bear is 58 inches. I remember the Martin feeling pretty smooth I shot a 45 lb - my favorite draw weight. Didn't have any strong impressions from the Samick.
As said above, go shoot each of them and then decide. Its much more a matter of personal preference.
And ditto on what Paul said - let us know!
My opinion is if you spend less now you'll always be wanting the next bow on your list. There are plenty of sweet customers on the classifieds where you could get a lot of bang for your buck. I started with a used BW and was the best decision I made. Just one guys opinion.
If you stick to Cabelas the Martin Savanna is a good bow.
My son-in law owns a Samik Red Stag and I've shot it numerous times.It seems to perform well and is handsomely constructed for the money.At it's price range you might talk the folks into arrows,glove and quiver!That stated I must echo whats already been said and that being, check the classifieds.It isn't the intent of fellow gangers to discourage you in the buying proccess it's just that such fine 2nd handers are available for that kind of loot.Just give MOM an extra hug and twist ole POP'S arm a little and they'll come around.Best wishes in your purchase and MERRY CHRISTMAS!!
Im with the put a few couple hundred on top of what your folks are putting in crowd and look at a martin hunter. Yes it may take a bit more time to save but they are a really good bow IMO. I used to have one when I started out and then saved for a custom. Both my brothers have newer grizzlies and I dont care for the grip at all. YMMV. I cant comment on the other bows but it's not up to me anyway. It's your call. Try as many as you can before you spend any money. If you are not happy in any way with you end up getting I doubt you will want to shoot it much at all. I have been there and done that. Keep an eye out in the classifieds. I hope you find what it is you are looking for. As they say...Buy once, cry once. Well at least for now. I commend your folks too for supporting your hobby. Some would just say you'll shoot your eye out kid. Then buy them some video games and such. Good luck with your pursuit.
FWIW, Bear Grayling Super Kodiak in classifieds right now. Priced right and money left for arrows and BH's.
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yea i seen there on the classifides and i love to order a custom but my parents said they just want to go to cabelas or bow shop to get it instead or messing with the internet. ive looked at 3 bows and am stuck on which and why. 1 bear grizzly hunter 2 martin x150 3 sammick red stag
i would like to hear some reviews and comments on all of them and others that would be a good reliable bow.
thanks,
steven
That is the biggest mistake you can possibly make in terms of bang for the buck. I see it happen all the time here and it makes me shudder.
In just bought a 66 inch Bear Kodiak Special through the internet for 66 dollars (hey just realized how lucky that bow will be). You could have 5 bows at that amount and still be within your budget. Shoot a 66 inch Kodiak Special and a Martin x150 side by side and see which one you would want to learn with. The KS will be far easier to learn to shoot well.
DDave
can some1 with a samick red stag tell me if the bow begins stacking before 30" draw?
Lots of good advise here already, so I'll just give my review of the Red Stag. I had the 3pc Red Stag and it's a nice bow, and I can't imagine getting more bang for your buck. The finish was good, not custom quality, but good. It shot great. So nice it surprised me. I got it for a beater bow/back-up, maybe bowfishing. It shoots fast, accurate, and very quiet. I loved it. I'd still have it but I decided the troops in Afganistan could use it more that me. I'll probably get another for myself. I also have a Samick Night Hawk, which is a higher-end Samick, about $300 or so. Now the Night Hawk has a custom quality finish and is also a first class shooter. I just got a second set of limbs for it in a lighter weight. Both bows have excellent grips, the fit is great. The Red Stag is just a little smaller.
As stated earlier, at the price point of the Red Stag you would have bucks left over for gear. When you have more experience and know what you want and buy custom, it would make a good back-up bow, or loaner for when you shoot with friends. I wouldn't hesitate to hunt with it. The 3pc bow also gives you the option of getting heavier limbs if you move-up in weight.
I can't compare it to the other bows as I haven't shot them.
Whatever you decide I hope you enjoy it and shoot it well. Good On your parents for supporting your new hobby and have a great Christmas! :archer2:
another vote for the Martin Savanna. Ive shot several and I think its the best production bow out there. but thats just my opinion.
Billy
Bear Grizzly
If your price really is a firm $350 and you absolutely want a new bow, I suggest giving very careful consideration to a TradTech Pinnacle ILF riser ($249) with Black Max wood and glass limbs ($129). If you don't like the Pinnacle, consider a used riser and new limbs.
As you can see, bear montana, bear grizzly, red stag. You can ask this a hundred times and you're going to get a hundred different answers. If your parents will only let you go to a bow shop then take what you can getand don't worry about buying from the internet. You would get a better bow for the money but that choice isn't yours to make if the folks don't want to go that route. I do suggest that you go to whatever shops you can and shoot every bow that they have in your price range because the finest bow in the world to me may be little more than a useless hunk of wood to you, everyone has different prefferences. I have no experience with any of these three bows but I did have a bear super K and that's the only bow I've let go that I wish I'd have kept. You may be a little better served by rephrasing this question requesting only specific opinions of these three bows if they are the three you are down to.