What is the shortest d-style longbow that could expect to deliver reasonable performance in terms of hand shock, accuracy, and all around shootability? I'm 5'7" tall and hunt mostly from treestands. 66" lengths seem to be the all around standard but I'm curious about performance in shorter lengths such as 64" or even 62". I had a Martin ML10 in 66" once but talk about hand shock!
The Martin ML-10 is a beast. Absolute worst hand shock of any bow I've ever shot, and I'm not terribly sensitive to hand shock.
Regarding optimum bow length, you should let your draw length determine your bow length. 66-68-inches is what Craig at HH recommends for a 28-inch draw. Can probably knock off two inches of bow length for every inch less than 28-inches you draw. At 5'7", you probably have a draw length of 26 inches or less so a 64 or 62-inch straight bow would work just fine for you. Might even be able to get by with two inches less than that. I have seen, though I haven't shot, 60 and 62-inch Hill bows.
I have a Monarch Imperial built by the late Monty Moravec that is 60lbs at 27" and 57 inch in length. Shoots fine and no hand shock.
I have a 58" 60# Great Northern CG Special that shoots awesome with no hand shock
Orien--good point. My draw length is 26". The bow I'm kicking around would be a 62" d-style straight-handled longbow.
I'm about your size, and find 60-62" to be about perfect for a 26" draw. This is for mild R/D longbows (Great Northerns in my case).
I mostly shoot Dan Toelke "Super D" Hill style bows. My draw length is 29" and my bows are 64". They are very fast, smooth drawing with no stacking, have next to nothing for handshock, and are quieter than regular quiet!
Generally for a traditional American Longbow the draw length and bow length will have the following relationship. Bow length is measured between string nocks, for a laminated/glass bow, with a riser of 14" length.
68" bow 28" draw length
66" bow 27" draw length
64" bow 26" draw length
62" bow 25" draw length
The longer bow length will be the most efficient. If you want to go shorter, look at a reflex-deflex which would allow shooting a 28" arrow out of a 62" bow without any loss.
My ability to shoot a Hill bow increased dramatically when I went from a 66" bow to a 70" bow.
Falco Bows here in Europe do a 54" that draws to 29" and a 52" that draws to 27"......
http://home.falco.ee/products_eng/falco_bows/falco_longbows/storm/
They seem to be very good bows.
Pete
My Robertsons are D shaped when strung, they feel like longbows, but shoot a faster arrow with less hand shock. At 26" there is nothing wrong with going to 64" Hill. Being 5'7" your draw will easily fall into that 62" Robertson and 64" Hill performance stroke without any fear of over drawing. If I had a 28" draw I would use a 68" Hill and a 64" Robertson. I will say that my Hill style bows are 66" and 68", tillered to be efficient at 26".
I shoot a Dwyer Defiant 60".My draw length is 28"and it shoots just as nice as my 66" bows.The best thing to do is try different bows at some of the expo's if possible.
Leland
great northern critter gitter!
I shoot a 62" Mohawk and love it!! :D :thumbsup:
Toejammer, Do you have any pictures of the Imperial bow to share. I don't think I have ever seen one before.
Tracy
For true D styles, i.e. not RD's, length does help. However, being handy does, too. I'm also 5'7" and have a 25", maybe close to 26" draw. I have had two 60" Hill take downs and loved them. My current hunters are 61" and 62". I will qualify that by noting that they are not heavy bows, 38# and 42#. Might not like them as much at 50#! My regular "go shoot all day" bows are all 66" and built for smoothest possible draw, arrow speed be damned.
I have a 60" Howard Hill Big 5, never a problem shooting this bow, is it as smooth as my 68" Cheetah, nyet, but the again nothing else is.
Eric Your spot on about the Martin ML-10.Good shooter but nasty on the elbow. You should take Paradocs advice. I'm shooting a 62"Great Northern Bushbow that he graciously sold to me and let me tell you it's a real sweet shooter. But saying that I must add that I recently purchased another GN from a fellow Tradganger. The 56" Critter Gitter Special is surprisingly smooth and shock free.A little more string angle than the regular length longbows but if you close your eyes when you shoot you'd swear this thing was longer. If you get a chance take one out for a test ride,I'm sure you will be pleasantly surprised. Take care
Mo
I am planning on getting my first Hill style bow soon and decided on a Tembo from Craig Ekin. I am 5'8" with a 26" draw and have been back and forth and back and forth between going with a 66" or 64". I have about decided to go with the 64" to get the most out of the limbs at my draw length but may have Craig make it on his stringfollow form in order to make up for any loss in smoothness or forgiveness going with the shorter length. Decisions. Decisions.
Hmmmm....now I feel like some kinda freak. :eek:
I'm 5' 7" too, yet I draw 29"
So what is the shortest bow I should look at?
I'm shooting a 66" GP, but want to sometime in the future, when funds allow, to get a shorter set of limbs in a slightly lighter weight than the 52# I draw now. Nothing wrong with the weight I shoot now, just want a set shorter and lighter.
~never noticed that my knuckles dragged the ground before~ :D
~DOH!~ :knothead:
Went a few posts down from this one (58 inch bow)and found the very answer to my question.
Why I love TG. :thumbsup:
I also have a Monarch Imperial, 62"/80#. It is my favorite 1 piece longbow for tree stand hunting. Draws smooth, no hand shock, and deadly accurate. There's a pic of it in this thread. Sorry, it's the only one available at the moment. Red elm limbs, clear glass, prairie rattler backing, deer antler tips, I believe cocobolo or bacote riser.(can't remember which)
http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=90;t=000595;p=1#000000
I also draw 29" and have no problems with this bow.
Last season I used a 58 inch St.Joe River longbow. It was very stable and forgiving. I'm 5ft 8 and it's design is perfect for shorter draws. :thumbsup:
Call Craig at Howard Hill archery. We spoke this week and he confirmed that 64 to 68 inches is what he recommends for a 28 inch draw. I have all three. They all shoot fine at my 28" draw.
Call Craig talk to him and order a Hill We Did.Aloha..
more than plenty of excellent short length "D" braced bows to choose.
personally, with such a short draw length, you will have a performance advantage with a mild r/d "D" longbow than a straight or reflexed "hill" style "D" longbow. a 60" mohawk (http://www.mohawkbows.com) would be one such sweet shooter for ya.
If you're looking for a short Hill,Craig still makes a model called the Badger in a 58in length.Same grip and limbs,just a little different looking.I have 62"er and love it(30"draw)Dick in Seattle's website has some pics.howardhillshooters.com
I have a 60" Abbott longbow with a 26" draw. It is a mild r/d design and a real shooter. Absolutely no handshock.
Jeff
I hunt 90% out of Tree Stands. I have a 27" draw and I'm around 5'-9"'. I have 3 Mohawk Longbows that are slightly reflex/deflexed, D shape when strung. A 62"er and 2- 64"er's. No problem with the length at all out of a tree.The 62"er is my "short" bow. Man oh man does it shoot sweet! :readit:
I had a 64" Hill Redman, that was a nice shooting bow.
What about Cascades New Brush Hawk. I received on fro Steve. When we hunted togethere this year. It is 56" 65# @ 28". It is a spead demon and smooth as silk. We posted pics back in Late Sept or early October. There is a lot of buzz about the bow. And the price is awsome.
robert