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Title: Getting my broadheads to stay "horizontal"?
Post by: Firstlight on December 10, 2010, 12:42:00 AM
Originally I fletched my arrows with field points.

When I put on a two blade broad head and tighten them they are not horizontal, or say, parallel to the ground.

I have used some string wax on the threads of my broad head which helps but as it's been below freezing in my area the wax doesn't hold.

How can I get my broad heads to fit properly?  The only way I think of is to re fletch arrows with the broad head attached thus ensuring the blades end up where I want them.

Insights welcome.
Title: Re: Getting my broadheads to stay "horizontal"?
Post by: FerretWYO on December 10, 2010, 01:02:00 AM
I usually install my inserts with broached on them. That way they are right from the start.

Are they flying poorly when not horizontal as you mentioned?
Title: Re: Getting my broadheads to stay "horizontal"?
Post by: swampmaster on December 10, 2010, 01:17:00 AM
rubber o rings or plastic washers.  small ones
Title: Re: Getting my broadheads to stay "horizontal"?
Post by: Grey Taylor on December 10, 2010, 01:18:00 AM
So long as you're getting good flight the broadhead orientation doesn't matter.

Guy
Title: Re: Getting my broadheads to stay "horizontal"?
Post by: Firstlight on December 10, 2010, 02:05:00 AM
Good tips on the rings/washers.

Yes, I am getting good arrow flight but I just want them horizontal.  Just a psych thing I guess but it just feels right when parallel to the ground.

I guess fletching with broad heads attached in the future is my best options, or as suggested attached to my inserts.  Get it right from the start...
Title: Re: Getting my broadheads to stay "horizontal"?
Post by: Steelhead on December 10, 2010, 02:34:00 AM
If your inserts are installed with hot melt glue you should be able to screw your broadhead into the insert and heat up the end of your arrow a bit and use a broadhead wrench or other tool or even your hands with good gloves on to turn your broadhead the way you want it to lay.
Title: Re: Getting my broadheads to stay "horizontal"?
Post by: ozy clint on December 10, 2010, 03:07:00 AM
if you are using factory screw on heads you may have to fletch each arrow with the head on it as they might not have the same orientation between arrows.

if like me, you are using a glue on head with adapter here's what you do-

1- glue 1 broadhead onto an adapter and let cure.
2- then glue all the inserts in your arrows and let cure.
3-then one by one screw the b/head onto each arrow and align the nocks how you want them.
4- then you can fletch the shafts.
5- screw all the adapters onto your arrows. it is IMPORTANT to screw them all on with the same torque as when you screwed on the broadhead to align the nocks.
6- now go and glue a b/head on each arrow and align them with the nocks the same as before and let cure.


you now have a set of broadheads where you can take any head and screw it on any arrow and they will be oriented the same.

pretty cool ha!
Title: Re: Getting my broadheads to stay "horizontal"?
Post by: Stone Knife on December 10, 2010, 04:53:00 AM
Use hot melt on your broadhead inserts, then you can put the head were you want it. Very simple thing to do and it allows you to use your target arrows for hunting if need be, you don't have to have a special set made up just for broadheads.
Title: Re: Getting my broadheads to stay "horizontal"?
Post by: Roy Steele on December 10, 2010, 06:07:00 AM
Just turn your inscerts.
Title: Re: Getting my broadheads to stay "horizontal"?
Post by: straitera on December 10, 2010, 06:21:00 AM
We need a spin test in here somewhere & reposition the insert for correct arrow flight. In such case, the BH may never line up right. I've used the smaller o-rings over the BH ferrule with much success.
Title: Re: Getting my broadheads to stay "horizontal"?
Post by: ChuckC on December 10, 2010, 09:40:00 AM
What Roy said if the heads are factory screw in.  What everybody said if they are glue on.

Problem with refletching is that, if it was done right in the first place, you can adversely affect your spine and arrow flight.  There is a right place and a lot of wrong places for fletch placement.
ChuckC
Title: Re: Getting my broadheads to stay "horizontal"?
Post by: Terry Green on December 10, 2010, 09:46:00 AM
Steel Force use to sell the little plastic 'alignment washers'.
Title: Re: Getting my broadheads to stay "horizontal"?
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on December 10, 2010, 10:04:00 AM
Teflon tape will hold them
Title: Re: Getting my broadheads to stay "horizontal"?
Post by: Jeff Strubberg on December 10, 2010, 10:52:00 AM
Just warm the end of the arrow up and turn the insert, broadhead and all until you have them where you want them.
Title: Re: Getting my broadheads to stay "horizontal"?
Post by: Terry Green on December 10, 2010, 10:54:00 AM
Best be careful heating carbons!!!!!!
Title: Re: Getting my broadheads to stay "horizontal"?
Post by: Fischman on December 10, 2010, 10:54:00 AM
What arrows and broadheads are you using? Are the inserts hot melt glued or epoxy ?
Title: Re: Getting my broadheads to stay "horizontal"?
Post by: Firstlight on December 10, 2010, 11:15:00 AM
Lot's of good suggestions.

I'm a little embarrassed to admit heating up and turning the insert didn't occur to me, I hot-melted them into place to begin with...

Admittedly,  it's been a few years since putting in my inserts.  I bought three dozen shafts several years ago and cut to size and placed inserts  at that time and haven't done it since.  

I just  fletch a 1/2 dozen arrows when needed.

It's time to order new shafts so from here on out I'll align broad head / insert to knock before fletching.

Thanks for the great input!

PS:

Aluminum Easton Shafts, two blade Magnus Stingers; using hotmelt.
Title: Re: Getting my broadheads to stay "horizontal"?
Post by: Terry Green on December 10, 2010, 11:20:00 AM
OK Cool...you are good to go on re-heating.  One thing about the plastic washers is that the Bheads are not truly seated, and that creates a weak link in the arrow.
Title: Re: Getting my broadheads to stay "horizontal"?
Post by: rabbit_buster on December 10, 2010, 11:25:00 AM
on a side note with my carbons I just take a finger nail file and file the end of my insert until the head rotates around to where i want em, and it only takes off a few grains......
Title: Re: Getting my broadheads to stay "horizontal"?
Post by: on December 10, 2010, 12:34:00 PM
This is the same way I like my BH's oriented. If it is not right I just turn my arrow 1/3 of a turn (3 fletch carbon arrows). I usually find one of the 1/3 turns produces my BH where I want it. This just puts the cock feather in a different position. I do like the suggestion of fletching with a BH on the arrow to get it right every time though and will probably do that in the future.

Bisch
Title: Re: Getting my broadheads to stay "horizontal"?
Post by: Huntschool on December 10, 2010, 12:46:00 PM
As Terry said "be carful heating with carbon arrows."

I do it all the time.  Just keep your torch flame out towards the end of the ferrul on the H and check for movement frequently.  As soon as it moves I use pliers to turn to desired location and then stick it in a container of luke warm water to cool.
Title: Re: Getting my broadheads to stay "horizontal"?
Post by: Carbonkiller on December 10, 2010, 02:52:00 PM
i just screw a field point in, heat it, and then take pliers, unscrew the field point. put your broadhead on and set them the way you like.