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Title: New 2011 KY Elk Info
Post by: Dusty Nethery on December 07, 2010, 08:18:00 PM
Just perusing the KY F&W site and found this info and tag breakdown. Seems as if the gunners get the lion's share for 2011.

New for 2011 applicants can apply for two separate types of tags, i.e. an "antlered" and "antlerless" archery tag.

The breakdown for all the tags is below.

Tag Weapon # of tags

Antlered Archery or crossbow 80

Antlered Firearms 120

Antlerless Archery or crossbow 240

Antlerless Firearms 360

Total All 800
Title: Re: New 2011 KY Elk Info
Post by: oneshot-onekill on December 07, 2010, 08:29:00 PM
Do you know if you can use archery equipment with a gun tag?
Title: Re: New 2011 KY Elk Info
Post by: Dusty Nethery on December 07, 2010, 08:32:00 PM
I looked, but didn't see where it specifically said you could or could not. Maybe someone else will chime in with a definitive answer.
Title: Re: New 2011 KY Elk Info
Post by: koger on December 07, 2010, 08:55:00 PM
Just asked two local F&W wardens the other day, they dont have a clue, here in KY they change the rules, laws each year, sometimes in mid year. Our Commisioner over F&W is being sued right now, for several different reasons, as the commisioner and in a private suit, conflict of interest, leasing hunting land for his personal buisness, etc. Also some impropriety was mentioned about the elk tags, some people have been "drawn 3-4 times", out of 46, 000+ entries? Also guides guiding on public land, which is illegal and F&W wardens right there watching, nothing done.  Was in the Lexington Herald Leader , Sunday paper, a week ago Sunday. I would call the F&W ask them about this, only way to get a clear answer, maybe? My wife drew a bull tag last year, her brother this year, I have been putting in since day one with no luck, overall seems like a fair deal, but the gripe about some people getting drawn multiple times, is fact, I know this for certain.
Title: Re: New 2011 KY Elk Info
Post by: BlacktailBowhunter on December 07, 2010, 09:05:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by oneshot-onekill:
Do you know if you can use archery equipment with a gun tag?
I would be willing to bet that your draw odds are better with the Bow than the rifle. So even if you can hunt the rifle season, I think if you research you will find better odds with bow.

Just my $0.02
Title: Re: New 2011 KY Elk Info
Post by: Dusty Nethery on December 07, 2010, 09:18:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by BlacktailBowhunter:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by oneshot-onekill:
Do you know if you can use archery equipment with a gun tag?
I would be willing to bet that your draw odds are better with the Bow than the rifle. So even if you can hunt the rifle season, I think if you research you will find better odds with bow.

Just my $0.02 [/b]
I'd say you're right. However, since you can apply for two tags now, if you were able to hunt with a bow during gun season, you could increase your odds of drawing a bull tag by applying for both archery and firearm tags.
Title: Re: New 2011 KY Elk Info
Post by: stevewills on December 08, 2010, 01:41:00 PM
i have in laws in hazzard ky.and they have elk in there backyard.i told them since they were out of the protected area they could use a deer tag to harvest one...i love this,they said they would eventualy get drawn,and they will get an elk someday...they have a few hundred elk sheds and noone hunts that area..god please i dont ask for much please help a brother get drawn...lol
Title: Re: New 2011 KY Elk Info
Post by: Dusty Nethery on December 08, 2010, 02:18:00 PM
Steve,

Can you use a deer tag to shoot an elk outside of the reintroduction area?

If so, would it be possible for a non-resident to buy, or draw (not sure how KY works) a deer tag, and then hunt the counties nearby to bag an elk?
Title: Re: New 2011 KY Elk Info
Post by: Junglecat on December 08, 2010, 02:43:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Dusty Nethery:
Steve,

Can you use a deer tag to shoot an elk outside of the reintroduction area?

If so, would it be possible for a non-resident to buy, or draw (not sure how KY works) a deer tag, and then hunt the counties nearby to bag an elk?
Like someone previously stated the rules are changed often and it is my understanding that a deer tag cannot now be used to harvest an elk that is found outside the restoration zone.You must now have an elk permit of some sort even outside the zone.See the Ky. Dept. of Fish and Wildlife Resources for the regs.
Title: Re: New 2011 KY Elk Info
Post by: KentuckyTJ on December 08, 2010, 02:51:00 PM
A big issue has been non-residents applying for a tag (wanting to come shoot a bull) then getting drawn for a cow tag and not showing up. That is one reason this time you will be able to choose.
Title: Re: New 2011 KY Elk Info
Post by: Slasher on December 08, 2010, 03:45:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by oneshot-onekill:
Do you know if you can use archery equipment with a gun tag?
Reading through the FAQ's...

Tags only valid through the season awarded and no using archery during gun.... Makes it easy to choose the two options though!!!
Title: Re: New 2011 KY Elk Info
Post by: doug77 on December 08, 2010, 06:02:00 PM
I've put in for the last 2-3 years and would love a chance at a cow. Why do people do that.

doug77
Title: Re: New 2011 KY Elk Info
Post by: koger on December 08, 2010, 10:03:00 PM
Hazzard is not outside the restoration zone, but smack dab inside it, where we stayed last year when my wife drew a bull tag. She shot her bull 40 miles back in the mountains from Hazard. You can buy a $30 tag for outside the restoration zone. There have been 3 killed in my county that made it that far, all cows, about 150 miles from the Zone.
Title: Re: New 2011 KY Elk Info
Post by: Steve H. on December 09, 2010, 09:56:00 AM
"A big issue has been non-residents applying for a tag (wanting to come shoot a bull) then getting drawn for a cow tag and not showing up."

Quilty as charged!

"I've put in for the last 2-3 years and would love a chance at a cow. Why do people do that."

Beacuse the old system forced me into that situation.  3,500 miles is a loooog way to go to hunt cow elk.....
Title: Re: New 2011 KY Elk Info
Post by: bluegrassbowhunter on December 09, 2010, 02:28:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Steve H.:
 3,500 miles is a loooog way to go to hunt cow elk.....
Not sure if it would of made it worth wild for ya or not but you could of chased some big whitetails & eastern turkeys on the same trip....
Title: Re: New 2011 KY Elk Info
Post by: stevewills on December 09, 2010, 03:26:00 PM
i should have stated they have other property thats outside of the zone that i was reffering to.this was a few years ago when i stated this to them,they cant even get drawn and they live right there,,,if i get drawn im there,dont care if i have to walk ill be there