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Title: Make an inexspensive small game head
Post by: Friends call me Pac on December 03, 2010, 04:47:00 PM
A few weeks ago I shot a squierrel with a well known comercial small game blunt type head.  It was a solid hit to the vital area of the body but the squierrel still got away.

I did a search and found this style of homemade head but there wasn't any step by step instruction of how to build it so that's what I did this afternoon.  Hopefully, this may be of use to others.  

My arrows are 5/16 birch and these are designed to fit my arrows.  You may need to tinker a bit to get exactly what you need but the steps should be the same.

I will list the photos and instructions in series if the # of photos becomes an issue.

1st these are the basic components of the head.  9mm case, birdshot, banding material, gorrila glue

 (http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc157/pactac/100_1905_opt.jpg)

I like to start out by cutting a few blades.  Go to your local hardware store and ask for a scrap piece of banding material.  I'd be very suprised if anyone gets charged for it.  Cut a section about 1/2" wide.

 (http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc157/pactac/100_1911_opt.jpg)  

Should end with blades that look something like this.

 (http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc157/pactac/100_1914_opt.jpg)

Next use a scale to determine the weight of the head.  Place all components onto the scale and add lead shot until you get the weight you desire.

 (http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc157/pactac/100_1908_opt.jpg)

Once the weight is determined set the blade aside and pour the lead shot into the case.

 (http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc157/pactac/100_1909_opt.jpg)

Next using a pair of pliers and a heat source melt the lead in the case.  

 (http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc157/pactac/100_1910_opt.jpg)
Title: Re: Make an inexspensive small game head
Post by: Friends call me Pac on December 03, 2010, 05:03:00 PM
Moving right along...

Once the lead and case has cooled place it in a vice with the primer end facing up.  I clamp it at this depth so as not to crush the case walls.

(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc157/pactac/100_1906_opt.jpg)

I use a dremel tool to make the slot but a hacksaw can also be used.  I suggest a mask and eye protection just in case you cause any lead particals to fly.  You can see the depth that works best for me.

(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc157/pactac/100_1915_opt.jpg)

Add a bit of super glue here.

(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc157/pactac/100_1919_opt.jpg)

Place the blade in the slot and hold it a second to keep it straigght.

(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc157/pactac/100_1918_opt.jpg)

The finished head can be shot as is but I like to use a file to sharpen the edge up some.

(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc157/pactac/100_1928_opt.jpg)

This head was originally 125 gr before assembly.  I lost 2 gr from making the slot.  I doubt I will be able to tell any difference but a couple of extra shot added before melting would probably make up the difference.

The 9mm case is a tad loose on my 5/16 arrow but a few wraps of tape on the shaft is all that is needed before gluing the head in place with the gorrila glue.
Title: Re: Make an inexspensive small game head
Post by: Bowwild on December 03, 2010, 05:22:00 PM
Pretty cool!
Title: Re: Make an inexspensive small game head
Post by: wildgame on December 03, 2010, 05:28:00 PM
thats cheaper than one of my good heads tore up by a tree rat!lol
Title: Re: Make an inexspensive small game head
Post by: lpcjon2 on December 03, 2010, 05:35:00 PM
I would suggest melting led in a well ventilated area.JMHO And when I get home I will look at the pics(cant get pics at work )But it sounds like a good head.
Title: Re: Make an inexspensive small game head
Post by: Gil on December 03, 2010, 07:38:00 PM
A 38 case might be better because of its longer case length!Thats a good idea btw!
Title: Re: Make an inexspensive small game head
Post by: jrbows on December 03, 2010, 09:21:00 PM
I have discovered through extensive research (actually by pure chance) a 30-30 winchester case cut  to 1 3/8" which is pretty much the limit they can be cut at before you get into the neck/shoulder taper grains at .125 and if you can cut them without mashing, or open the end back up with a punch they will go on an 11/32" shaft with no taper I used a tubing cutter but had to re-open the end if anyone needs banding material I discard about 20' every day let me know I might be able to save you a trip to the hardware store, take care.
Title: Re: Make an inexspensive small game head
Post by: Nuclear Longbow on December 03, 2010, 09:45:00 PM
Pretty cool, and the best part is you can build it one handed!  Hope your arm is healing nicely.
Title: Re: Make an inexspensive small game head
Post by: bamacrazy on December 03, 2010, 09:54:00 PM
I've used 357 cases for blunts, but I never tried adding lead. Interesting!
Title: Re: Make an inexspensive small game head
Post by: Gerardo on December 03, 2010, 10:18:00 PM
These are great , should go in the how to section
Title: Re: Make an inexspensive small game head
Post by: GPW on December 03, 2010, 11:39:00 PM
I have built blunts out of 357 cases by adding lead shot.  Instead of glue I attached the case to the shafts by a compression tool used on co-ax fittings. Once crimped, there was no removal or reuse.
Title: Re: Make an inexspensive small game head
Post by: luv2bowhunt on December 04, 2010, 01:07:00 AM
Love the idea. Thanks for the build along!

Have you tried shaping the blade to a point and adding another blade perpendicular? How do those fly?

I'll definately add this to my ever growing list of winter projects  :D
Title: Re: Make an inexspensive small game head
Post by: Friends call me Pac on December 04, 2010, 01:50:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by luv2bowhunt:
Love the idea. Thanks for the build along!

Have you tried shaping the blade to a point and adding another blade perpendicular? How do those fly?

I'll definately add this to my ever growing list of winter projects   :D  
Before i messed up my shoulder I had made a couple of prototypes.  I was hitting a small 16 oz pepsi bottle at 20 yards pretty good.  It's fairly close to the body size of a small rabbit or big fox squirrel.  These set ups should be accurate enough if I do my part when Mr Bushytail offers a shot.

I did make one of the tips in a "coffin" type shape but it didn't fly any better than what I'm doing now.  When I did make a point on it I could never get both sides even. Using tin snips and eyeballing the cut isn't the most detailed cutting job. It didn't seem to affect the flight but bugged me so I just keep the blade like it is now.

I have not tried a cross type head.  Give it a shot and let us know how it goes.
Title: Re: Make an inexspensive small game head
Post by: Friends call me Pac on December 04, 2010, 01:53:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by GPW:
I have built blunts out of 357 cases by adding lead shot.  Instead of glue I attached the case to the shafts by a compression tool used on co-ax fittings. Once crimped, there was no removal or reuse.
Is that some kind of crimper?  I'd love to not have to worry about using tape to get the correct fit.  I know a .32 case will fit the 5/16 shaft but I don't have any.  I do have about a zillion 9mm so that's what I used.
Title: Re: Make an inexspensive small game head
Post by: broketooth on December 04, 2010, 06:21:00 AM
do you have any feild test pics that invilve a dead squirrel or 2. ruddy
Title: Re: Make an inexspensive small game head
Post by: GPW on December 04, 2010, 10:12:00 AM
]Is that some kind of crimper?  I'd love to not have to worry about using tape to get the correct fit.  I know a .32 case will fit the 5/16 shaft but I don't have any.  I do have about a zillion 9mm so that's what I used. [/QB][/QUOTE]

The compression (crimping) tool is the same as your cable TV serviceman uses when installing the end fittings on the Co-ax cable in your house. You can also get by without melting the lead shot when using this method. I have pictures but do not see how to attach.  Time to do a little research!
Title: Re: Make an inexspensive small game head
Post by: Mike Vines on December 04, 2010, 10:21:00 AM
Thanks for the awesome Idea.  I just have to ask...How do you carry these in the field?  Is it in a back quiver?
Title: Re: Make an inexspensive small game head
Post by: GPW on December 04, 2010, 11:51:00 AM
First try at posting pictures.  

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l519/gpw1948/DSCF3626.jpg)

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l519/gpw1948/DSCF3629.jpg)

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l519/gpw1948/DSCF3636.jpg)
Title: Re: Make an inexspensive small game head
Post by: Friends call me Pac on December 04, 2010, 01:02:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by broketooth:
do you have any feild test pics that invilve a dead squirrel or 2. ruddy
I have not used them yet.  Messed up my shoulder and can't shoot my bow.

This all started when I shot a squierrel with a commercial small game head that basically bounced off a 8 oz squierrel.  The head weighed 175 gr and was shot from a 50# bow.  It was the 1st squierrel I have actually hit so I was upset that he got away.

I came home and used the search to see what others were using.  This type of head came up more often than any other that I could see and had only positive comments.  There were photos of the finished head and instructions on how to make them.  

I decided to film the step by step process that I figured out to make my own version. This head design did not come from my own noggin, it's the result of what I have seen others use here on TG.
Title: Re: Make an inexspensive small game head
Post by: Friends call me Pac on December 06, 2010, 05:56:00 PM
I decided to try shooting a few arrows today.  Arm feels pretty good with just a few shots.  Didn't shoot more than a dozen times just in case the shoulder isn't back to normal yet but I believe it is well on the way to the way it should be.

Anyway the head flew ok but not as consistant as I wanted it to.  Don't know if it was me or the head.  I trimmed the head down a bit to try and make it a bit areodynamic.

(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc157/pactac/100_1940_opt.jpg)

Shot pretty consistant out to 20 yards so I might be onto something.  Another benifet is I think the blade will be short enogh so as to not stick into a tree.  I'll try that out in a couple of days.