Trad Gang

All,

Have been looking through some of the arrow crest threads and first thing I have to say is there are definetly some artists out there.

I saw a few arrow that have a swirly, marbled, mottled (heck I dont know what you call it) cap/crown dip.  I am curious what is it really called and what are the steps and materials necessary to pull it off.  I really like the look and it is unique

C

I too would like to see it done. From what I gather the dip is a mix of water based and oil based paint.  They don't mix so you get the marbling effect.  Would someone please post the steps taken to achieve this look?

I have tried a method with mixed results.
I used oil-based paints dripped into a container of water deep enough for the crown of the arrow.
the oil-based paints are swirled together with a toothpick and the arrow is pushed down through the paint. Once the dip is deep enough the shaft is drawn back out.
The paints gave a really nice swirl effect but I had issues with water bubbles in the finish. Someone who does this regularly probably has ways to combat it. I ended up not pursuing the finish further because the oil-based paints are not compatible with the gasket lacquer I use as a clear finish. I wasn't interested at that time in finding another clear finish that would work.

Guy

Come on fellas someone has got to help me out here. LOL

C

What Grey said, Caleb,

fill dip tube w/ water. Put in a base color of oil paint...use eye dropper to put in other colors to suit, swirl very little and gently with tooth pick.

Dip shaft. I understand you only get  to dip one or two, maybe 3 shafts and you have to dump it all and start over.

Air bubbles would be another story... stir gently? Dunno.

I have a good friend who gets the marbled look by pouring the paint on a sponge, and then rolling the shaft over it.  He has made several dozen for my wife, and they are really good looking.  Sorry, but I have no idea how to post pictures.

Murray

is this what you are looking for?
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/trdtnlbwhntr/IMGA0004.jpg)

if that is what you guys are looking for I might be able to give my secrets away, but right now im making some pretty good cash off my buddies for doing this little trick to their arrows. hahahahaha id hate for them to read it and stop giving me their money.

Try this:    http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=076945;p=3#000041  

If link doesn't work, search Pow Wow for "marbled crown dip"

Looks great & would be interested in tryhbg it if you let your secret out.

that is exactly what I am after.

C

Ive been trying to get around to a little build along process and I just got a new SLR camera for my birthday.  When i get home tonight Ill take some pics and make up an arrow for you folks.  Then try to do a little build along tomorrow.  Can you guys wait that long?

Do we have a choice???   :)    :)    :)    

C

Here's another link.

links to offsite forums are not allowed.

I cheat. I spray paint in one color, and while that paint is still wet, I paint over it with another color while turning the shaft. Works great.

Oooppssss...either didn't know that or forgot.

I am still working on this project.  I did get some pictures taken last night but the cold weather doesnt allow the paint to dry quite as fast as it does in the summer.  So with one more coat to go on the crown dip Ill hopefully be able to finish up the project tonight.  And be posting pictures tomorrow.

AWESOME!!!!

C

I'll be wTching for this as well.

Keeping the Faith!
Magnus

Get that camera rollin!!!!

ttt

Dustin, Nice looking arrow.

we arent gonna let you forget about this. LOL

C

the dip paint is drying as we speak.  Im still trying to figure out how to get black paint to show up on water in a black bucket

alright picture are uploading to the photobucket now.  When they are done Ill put together a little marble dipping how to

I know photobucket is slow, but I never figured this slow.  just kidding.  I'm looking forward to the how-to.

Tap..Tap..Tap...   :readit:   Time to make good on your promise.

:coffee:  Guess I better get a refill this is taking a long time. HaHa.

gonna have to get a mob rounded up

C

I'll join the posse! Lol. It's a busy time of year for everybody.

Keeping the Faith!
Magnus

Well.......You got my attention!  :saywhat:  

I'll have to start watching this thread myself. Even though I mostly use arrow wraps......that's kinda cool and I might have to give it a shot this winter. I've got some old carbons laying around that would be perfect to test my skills on for this.

Waiting patiently.....for now!   :campfire:

well I guess we will try one more time on this one

Still waiting................   :rolleyes:      :campfire:

It's winter, I guess the cold makes the dry slower than if he did it in the summer.  I'm sure he will post it when it's fully cured.

I have always wanted to try that....it looks really nice.

up again.  I know Christmas is a busy time.

C

:dunno:

I've painted motorcycle gas tanks similar to that by painting one color over another and while the second color was wet, I laid saran wrap over it.  Remove the saran wrap immediately.  Clearcoat must be applied over it.  Maybe you could try rolling the shaft over the wrap.  Jack

ttt

back to the top with this one.  I am starting to think about arrows for the summer and next deer season.  Would really like to do the swirly cap dip thing.  Somebody help me out with a tutorial please

You can do some pretty cool stuff like that with spray paint. Just do a moderate coat of one color, and another coat of another color, and then take shiny magazine paper and crumple it up a bit and "blot" it on top of the paint if you get what I'm saying. This will give you a pretty neat effect.