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Title: 2 nocking points - split finger
Post by: CG on November 26, 2010, 12:45:00 AM
Curios as to the reasons/benefits of using 2 nocking points when shooting split finger.  

Thanks
Title: Re: 2 nocking points - split finger
Post by: Bjorn on November 26, 2010, 01:19:00 AM
2 nocking points will supposedly prevent the nock from sliding down the serving at release. I like the fit whether or not the sliding nock theory holds water.
Title: Re: 2 nocking points - split finger
Post by: CG on November 26, 2010, 02:09:00 AM
The nock sliding makes sense. Although I would think that the finger under the nock would keep it from moving, I could see where it could still move a little since the finger isn't tight up against it. Wouldn't move much, but an 1/8" could make a difference.
Title: Re: 2 nocking points - split finger
Post by: Bowwild on November 26, 2010, 03:26:00 AM
According to folks from Hoyt/Easton say high-speed photography has shown the nock sliding down after the fingers have come off the string but before the arrow has left the string. I always use two tied on nock locators. A tiny gap between the nock and the bottom locator (1/16th or so) is enough to prevent pinch from pushing the nock off.
Title: Re: 2 nocking points - split finger
Post by: Terry Lightle on November 26, 2010, 07:39:00 AM
Used 2 nocking points for years to prevent the slippage as mentioned above.
Title: Re: 2 nocking points - split finger
Post by: greg fields on November 26, 2010, 07:47:00 AM
I always thought 2 nock points would keep me from putting extra pressure on the nock with my middle finger.
Title: Re: 2 nocking points - split finger
Post by: JRY309 on November 26, 2010, 08:02:00 AM
I have always used two tie-on nocks,started doing that when I started shooting trad over 15 years ago.
Title: Re: 2 nocking points - split finger
Post by: Huntschool on November 26, 2010, 09:28:00 AM
As a three under shooter I have always used a tie in below the arrow nock.  Honestly don't remember what I did back in the day with split finger.
Title: Re: 2 nocking points - split finger
Post by: CG on November 26, 2010, 11:18:00 AM
Thanks for the feedback.  I've always nocked under the point and used one, but have been curious.  I've seen enough pictures of bows set up with two locators to figure it must be worth exploring.

Like you all, I also tie on my nocking points (or use masking tape).  

Now that I think about it, 30 years ago I nocked over the locator, as that was how my Dad's bow was set up back then.

thanks,
Title: Re: 2 nocking points - split finger
Post by: CG on November 26, 2010, 11:21:00 AM
Another quick thought--I always assumed that it would be harder to nock an arrow without looking with two nock sets.  I was of the opinion that putting the nock on the string below the nocking point and sliding it up was way easier when keeping my eyes elsewhere.  But, tried it out last night and after the first time I could nock the arrow without looking just as easily.  Funny how a person can be so set on something they haven't tried due to what they have heard.
Title: Re: 2 nocking points - split finger
Post by: LBR on November 26, 2010, 11:23:00 AM
There's high-speed video on the SVL site that shows nock slide.
Title: Re: 2 nocking points - split finger
Post by: inthere10x on November 26, 2010, 12:11:00 PM
I tie two (under and over) nock sets for hunting and 3-D shooting shooting. If I go to a shoot w/ a novelty/speed shoot (water bottles, clay pigeons, etc..) I remove the lower nock set. A tip an older timer gave me to increase your speed of shooting. Don't have to take your eyes off the target, nock the arrow low on the string and slide up to the nock set. It has increased my speed of shooting in the novelties.
Title: Re: 2 nocking points - split finger
Post by: Terry Green on November 26, 2010, 12:15:00 PM
Yes....the sliding nock is not a theory....it can and does happen on some nock/string fit/string angle/release style/string torque.. combos.  

This has been known as fact for decades.
Title: Re: 2 nocking points - split finger
Post by: mcgroundstalker on November 26, 2010, 12:22:00 PM
The first year I started ground hunting with a trad bow I had a doe come at me out of the cover. I was so excited I couldn't remember where to nock my arrow... Above or below the nock point? Ever since then it's been two nocks. One above, one below. Simple.

... mike ...   :rolleyes:   ...
Title: Re: 2 nocking points - split finger
Post by: lpcjon2 on November 26, 2010, 07:18:00 PM
I always use a double nock set. And my arrows with 125 gr heads shoot awesome from it.But I took the time to add a little serving to the bottom point(I serve all my own nock points)so I can shoot my 160gr heads for below it and they are also dead on.So in short I have the bow set up for 2 different head weights.
Title: Re: 2 nocking points - split finger
Post by: Van/TX on November 26, 2010, 07:42:00 PM
As long as the nock slides down the same distance with each shot it's not a problem  :D  ...Van
Title: Re: 2 nocking points - split finger
Post by: CG on November 26, 2010, 07:47:00 PM
After trying it out for a day, I cut the bottom nock point off--going back to the way I started to see if I could tell any difference.  Basically, I couldn't really tell that it changed anything for me.  Placement of my string hand also felt a little ackward with the bottom nocking point on there.

Again, appreciate all of the input.
Title: Re: 2 nocking points - split finger
Post by: Eugene Slagle on November 26, 2010, 07:55:00 PM
I've always used a double nock indicator, to me it's good insurance for me to know that it is one of the few things that most likely not go wrong during the moment of truth.
Title: Re: 2 nocking points - split finger
Post by: CG on November 26, 2010, 08:03:00 PM
Van, you always seem to put things in such a proper perspective......seriously.

Been enjoying your commments for at least 10 years now.  Glad you still hang around.
Title: Re: 2 nocking points - split finger
Post by: Van/TX on November 26, 2010, 09:37:00 PM
CG, hanging around beats the alternative  :saywhat:  Thanks...Van
Title: Re: 2 nocking points - split finger
Post by: ks_jon on November 26, 2010, 09:42:00 PM
Is there any reason to nock  your arrow under the locator and not over?
Title: Re: 2 nocking points - split finger
Post by: raghorns on November 26, 2010, 11:37:00 PM
I was sooo frustrated trying to tune my new Morrison until I called Bob and he told me to use 2 nocks...problem solved!