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Title: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: Bengal on November 23, 2010, 09:30:00 AM
I just bought my first traditional bow (Black Widow) and I have plenty of questions. Is this the right forum to ask them in?
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: Bowwild on November 23, 2010, 09:33:00 AM
Lots of mine have been answered here.  Welcome to  you!
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on November 23, 2010, 09:35:00 AM
Absolutely and congrats on a fine bow. I don't own any widows but have shot a few and they are fine bows.

Any questions you got you can either look through old post using the search feature or ask it here. great bunch of guys here willing to help. I've learned more about trad shooting in the last year or so since I have been here than I ever knew in the five I shot trad.

Stiks
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: sweeney3 on November 23, 2010, 09:36:00 AM
It sure is.  Lots of Widow fans on here.  Bear in mind that your setup will be your setup and things don't always work exactly the same from person to person, so you may have to tweek things just a hair, but folks can sure get you pointed in the right direction.
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: Bjorn on November 23, 2010, 09:38:00 AM
Welcome and ask away.
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: Bengal on November 23, 2010, 09:44:00 AM
Thanks everyone! I am looking at quivers and I prefer a bow-mounted quiver. Does anyone use the Selway slide on quivers?
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: Bill Turner on November 23, 2010, 09:46:00 AM
One thing for sure, if you can't get it answered here your not asking a question remotely related to traditional archery. Welcome aboard. Prop up your feet and sit a spell.  :campfire:
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: lpcjon2 on November 23, 2010, 09:50:00 AM
This is the place to have ? asked, and if not answered they will direct you to the part of the site that will.Welcome to tour new home.   :wavey:
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: Cottonmouth on November 23, 2010, 09:56:00 AM
The folks here are great, welcome to the forum and good luck!
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: Bengal on November 23, 2010, 10:17:00 AM
Or suggestions on another option?
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: T Folts on November 23, 2010, 10:21:00 AM
Bengal,
Questions are welcom for sure thats how we learn from each other. One thing we have here is a search function that will give you a wealth of info that has been discussed here in the past, I use it all the time.
Terry
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: Dave Bulla on November 23, 2010, 10:33:00 AM
Welcome Bengal,

You are in the right place for certain!

The Selway slide on quivers are great quivers and lots of us use them.  They do come in both longbow and recurve versions so you need to get the right one.  I used a 6 arrow longbow quiver on my longbow for several years but eventually went to a side quiver because I really like the feel of the longbow with nothing hanging off of it.  Lots of buys say their bows shoot better with the quiver on it due to the added weight but I'm not one of them.  Besides, my arrows are so ridiculously long that they get in the way.

There are also versions of bow quivers with different attach methods.  Selway makes one that has a knob to tighten it onto the limb.  You don't have to slide it all the way down the limb.  There is also one (name excapes me) that uses a rubber strap that wraps around the limb.  It's lighter than the Selway and I hear lots of good about it too.  They come in anywhere from only 3 or 4 arrow capacity to 6 arrow.  Four is usually plenty unless you will also be toting a couple of blunts for small game.

Over time, you will probably buy or make a couple back or side quivers "just because" we all need to try them at some point.  Besides, it's fun.
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: centaur on November 23, 2010, 10:34:00 AM
Bengal,
I have used the Selway for quite a while, but I am getting a Big Jim bow quiver. They  go on and can be taken off without having to unstring the bow. He is a sponsor here. Check it out.
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: Bengal on November 23, 2010, 07:35:00 PM
Thanks for all the feedback and the warm welcome. I think I am going to try out the Selway first and go from there. I will probably be getting the 6 arrow because I plan on carrying blunts for small game. I'm sure I will have more questions soon. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: Bengal on November 23, 2010, 07:39:00 PM
I almost forgot- The bow came with three extra sets of limbs and .....
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: Huntschool on November 23, 2010, 07:39:00 PM
Be sure and look at the Thunder Horn quivers.  I shoot Widow bows and love the looks and workmanship of the Thunder Horns....
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: BOWMARKS on November 23, 2010, 07:51:00 PM
Welcome aboard someone will answer them.  

MARK
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: Bengal on November 23, 2010, 11:33:00 PM
I am going to get a quiver tomorrow and I will look at the Thunderhorns. I need to get an arm guard as well. I don't have any problem with my compound so I have never used one. Does a longer arm guard prevent the string from catching?
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: MCNSC on November 24, 2010, 12:47:00 AM
Check these out. I have had several quivers for my Widows and this is the one I use, doesnt move ,quiet, arrows angle back and it looks good.
A big plus is they are a sponser here.
Oh and the limbs should be well worth $350
And welcome, great people here, As with many things with traditional archery you will get many opinions,most will be right. You just gotta see what works for you, or what suites your tast.
Mike
http://www.kanatiquiver.com/Kanatiangle.html
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: Bengal on November 24, 2010, 01:39:00 AM
I really like the look of the Kanati Quivers. I will probably go with something I can pick up tomorrow because I am leaving for a hunt in Nebraska next week. Maybe I'll have to get one after I get back as a christmas present to myself...
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: PA-Spot on November 24, 2010, 06:54:00 AM
I agree I love my thunder horns. use a heavy leather arm gaurd of regular lenght. In both hunting and practice. Had a bad experiance while hunting with out one. Had on a heavy coat. At the shot the string hit my coat with a loud slap. The buck was moveing when the arrow got there. All turned out OK, but the arm gaurd solved the problem.
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: GingivitisKahn on November 24, 2010, 07:32:00 AM
Man I hope so because I've asked a ton.  Welcome, Bengal!

  :campfire:
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on November 24, 2010, 09:45:00 AM
Bengal,

I think as far as quivers go it's like searching for the one bow you love. You'll end up trying many and likeing alot of them but that one style of quiver will come along and you will love it.

I don't use bow quivers cause I don't like them on my bows but I have tried several and if you like a quiver on your bow the selway is as goos as any. Theres alot to choose from around here.

I myself like a back quiver or side stalker type quiver. I got a Hihg Noon Hunter and absolutley love it. It will be the only type of quiver I use from here on out.

Shoot what you like and carry your stiks however you like. That's the great thing about trad. It's still all about a stick and string.

Stiks
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: njloco on November 24, 2010, 10:35:00 AM
The arm guard question, keep one thing in mind, if you hunt in 3D you might need a longer arm guard that runs up the bicep, because of the possibility of the string hitting the 3D material on the bow arm.
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: Toklat1 on November 24, 2010, 10:53:00 AM
I also use a Selway slide on quiver. You cannot remove it unless you unstring  your bow however in my opinion it is a fine bow quiver. Welcome to the gang.
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: Bengal on November 24, 2010, 11:47:00 AM
Thanks again everyone. I use an elastic polyester sleeve to go over bigger coats when shooting my compound and it works fine but I will be getting a leather arm guard to shoot the Widow.
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: straitera on November 24, 2010, 11:53:00 AM
Ask away. Black Widow is pretty powerful medicine. Good for you.
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: Bengal on November 24, 2010, 12:12:00 PM
Does anyone shoot Trophy Taker Shuttle T Lock Broadheads? I use them on my compound and they have been great. They fly like a field tip and cut big holes so I'm hoping I can use them with my Widow
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: straitera on November 24, 2010, 02:31:00 PM
Expandable? Wups!! You're on your own.
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: GingivitisKahn on November 24, 2010, 03:19:00 PM
Most of the folks here prefer two or three blade, cut-on-contact heads like these:

http://www.3riversarchery.com/Broadheads+Points+2-Blade+Screw-In+Magnus+II++125gr_c57_s266_p298_iSP5223_product.html

or these:

http://www.3riversarchery.com/Broadheads+Points+3-Blade+Screw-In+Woodsman++150gr+%26+125gr_c57_s267_p298_i4225-1X_product.html
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: Bengal on November 24, 2010, 04:12:00 PM
They are not expandables. They are a three blade fixed head. I shoot 125grain. This is what they look like. I have heard great things about the magnus heads, but haven't heard much about the others.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Trophy-Taker-Shuttle-T-Lock-Broadheads/745778.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fform_state%3DsearchForm%26N%3D0%26fsch%3Dtrue% 26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3Dtrophy%2Btaker%26x%3D0%26y%3D0&Ntt=trophy+taker (http://www.cabelas.com/product/Trophy-Taker-Shuttle-T-Lock-Broadheads/745778.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fform_state%3DsearchForm%26N%3D0%26fsch%3Dtrue%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3Dtrophy%2Btaker%26x%3D0%26y%3D0&Ntt=trophy+taker)
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: Dave Bulla on November 24, 2010, 04:55:00 PM
Those would work but if I were you, I'd spend some time looking up old threads on broadheads, FOC, EFOC, arrow tuning etc.  In a nutshell, a broadhead that cuts right to the tip will far out penetrate any replaceable blade, nail tip, tanto tip or whatever you want to call them head.  Also, when shooting a recurve, you tend to tune the arrow to the bow and not the bow to the arrow.  There is a ton of great how to info on this site but if you have trouble finding it, just chime in with a new post.

Remember, you are dropping speed and probably draw weight too by going to a recurve and to compensate, usually we shoot fairly heavy arrows with cut on contact heads.  Be aware of proper tuning and keep arrow weights up and you will have no problems.

Just as a side note, I got the impression that you have JUST started shooting trad and are already planning on going on a hunt very soon?  Maybe I misunderstood and you are just new to the site.  If so I apologize but I was going to suggest getting some more practice time in.  Of course I've never seen you shoot and you might be doing real good right off the bat.  Some guys make the switch and shoot great right from the start.  Anyway, make sure you know your shot limits, decide if you are ready and have fun!
Title: Re: Newbie. Is this the place to ask questions?
Post by: Bengal on November 24, 2010, 05:18:00 PM
Most of the recommendations if got from friends who shoot traditional equipment were for Magnus and Zwickey so I will probably start there. I understand it is different for everyone and I will have to figure it out as I try equipment out. I just like hearing from a variety of people so that there is not as much bias.

As far as arrows go I will start with Easton XX75 Aluminum arrows as I was told they would be a good arrow to start out with before moving to wood, which I would like to do.

I also know there is a big difference when hunting with traditional equipment so I will be sure to choose my shots wisely.