has anyone every tied the muzzy "locking" 3 blade with traditional equiptment? I currently shoot magnus 2 blade and like them pretty good but, wally world has the muzzy's I'm speeking of for $ 7.00....
If you have your Magnus' tuned, why would you want to change them up? Going from a fixed blade Magnus to a replaceable blade with trad gear is kinda like going from a full sized pick-up to a smart car and then trying to haul a full sheet of plywood home...
I shoot the 145 grain 3 blade with the trocar tip. have never had an issue. Does wonders on bone.
I've used them and they performed well. John Mussacchia, the inventor, was a traditional bowhunter.
daz, I was wondering how they would performe because i can't get the equiptment i have unless i order it online.
Broadheads are important and I'd not suggest changing just to save a buck. That said the Muzzy is a very good head and will work just fine for deer sized game out of any properly tuned stick bow of adequate weight. Like southpawshooter said, they were developed by a trad shooter. If you like that style head, by all means buy them.
Your broadhead is the only thing you have that makes a kill possible
Buying based on price -up to a point - may make sense if we were talking 30 bucks a head vs 8
But remember you'll have to buy more blades to stick on those later. You'll also expend more momentum to push those tips through initially
Lots to consider especially if you are shooting a mid or lightweight bow arrow combo
Been using Muzzy 125gr or 115gr 4bl heads since '92 with trad equipment and have killed many, many animals with them and they work great, just sharpen up the trocar tip on a diamond stone and no problems. Also use a heavy tip weighted carbon arrow and they do fine. Have taken deer, elk, bear, lot's of hogs, etc with them and no problems. Love being able to change out the blades as well and they work great.
QuoteOriginally posted by mark land:
Been using Muzzy 125gr or 115gr 4bl heads since '92 with trad equipment and have killed many, many animals with them and they work great, just sharpen up the trocar tip on a diamond stone and no problems. Also use a heavy tip weighted carbon arrow and they do fine. Have taken deer, elk, bear, lot's of hogs, etc with them and no problems. Love being able to change out the blades as well and they work great.
sorry i havn't got the quotes figured out yet.... do you just place the tip on the stone like you would a regular 3:1 ratio bh?
With the KME sharpener you can resharpen the blades too.
Most people don't realize the Muzzy head was designed by John Mussachia, Sr. who was a trad bowhunter. He bowhunted the world with those heads and his recurves and killed a Cape Buffalo with them if I am not mistaken, shooting a Bear recurve.
Muzzy broadheads have always worked well for me. They fly great, penetrate real well and leave a good blood trail too. Besides, for $7 bucks I'd buy the whole shelf full.
Good Luck.
A friend of mine has had good luck with them and thinks they are fine broadhead. You still have to put it in the right place!!!
my most favorite multiblade head, if your comfortable using them on big game, use them for small, for 7 bucks thats a sweet deal
My brother killed 5 deer with them last year out of a trad bow.
Mark that's interesting- didn't know youcould 'edge' the tip
That phantom sure is a nice head also!
Awhile back Mark gave out the "tip" about sharpening the tip. Works great and it really gets a sharp point!!
Cheers,
Joe
muzzy phantoms best broad head made. I like the 220 grain. Have sold all the rest of my heads.
I've used them for years with no problems.
yea i saw thoes phantoms yesterday at a local archery shop but they were only like 100 grains though. i bet thoes 220's make a big 'ole hole.
I've used the 125gr. three blade for a while now.Bows in the 50# range 500gr. carbon arrows.Kills as good as any and better than most.
Matter of preference. Any sharp broad head will work. I have found with the heavier heads I am getting better arrow flight/bow is quieter/ and way better penetration. I am shooting 44# 27 1/2" arrow 33/55 goldtip. I am shooting field tips 175 to 220 grains.
I shoot the 125gr. 3 blade Magnus Snuffers and many other guys here on Trad Gang shoot them as well. I don't really see any difference in shooting a 3 blade Snuffer or shooting a 3 blade Muzzy?
The only real big difference is that the Snuffers are meant to be resharpened, but it still takes a certain amount of KE to push them through an animal. I zipped one through the shoulder of a coyote and it sliced through like he wasn't even there, then buried in the dirt about 4" on the other side. I know that coyotes aren't as heavy boned as a deer, but I had more than plenty of KE to blast through the coyote and then some, so if that's any indication of what it will do on a deer, then I'm not worried at all about shooting a 3 blade broadhead.
That's a heck of a deal on the Muzzys, I would definitely go for it and like one of the other members already said, "I'd buy the whole shelf full for that price" +1 on that!
Even if you decide you don't like how they shoot, you could turn around and sell the rest and make a buck or two.
Muzzy broadheads have killed a ton of game and are one of the best quality broadheads on the market today and it's a good ole made in the USA product......that's a rarity these days.
Here's a final thought.......Fred Eichler shoots them and kills everything from whitetail to goats to bears with them and he even married the daughter of the founder, who is incidently now the owner. Fred said on one of his shows that he got tired of paying for broadheads so he married the owner so he could get Muzzy broadheads for free.
Yessir they work just fine and the tips are very easy to sharpen as well, just like sharpening a 3bl broadhead just lay the tip down with 2 sides touching and draw back to you, you can get the tip extremely sharp and still have that proven bone breaking trocar tip on the end of your broadhead. I love those Phantoms as well and they do a great job, I just hate sharpening broadheads and love how easy it is to change out the blades on the regular Muzzy heads and get back to shooting. Really comes in handy on doe hunts or when chasing hogs thru the swamps and getting repeated opportunities on animals. Plus they are very durable and I continue to resue the same heads, just change out blades and keep on hunting, I have some arrows/heads with over 9 animals taken with the same setup, just changed out or touched up the blades.
I love them. I shoot the 100 with a 100 brass insert. I also shoot the phantom 125 with the bleeder blades out so it is a 100. For that price I would buy a pile even if I just used them for small game heads. They fly like field points.
The 3 blade 125 grain Muzzy is my favorite Muzzy. I`ve killed a good many critters with them .Hogs and deer.I killed my 2nd biggest pig with one and the head was in the offside shoulder.I`ve taken the blades out and sharpened them on a stone many times. I don`t think I`ve ever bought replacement blades.I would feel good shooting them from 50 lbs and up.RC
since i got suce a good responce i went to buy a pack during lunch today. They must have figured out they made a mistake b/c they were back to $13.00 for a 3 pack. i went ahead and got a 3 pack but i hate i missed out on that deal....
QuoteOriginally posted by Blaino:
yea i saw thoes phantoms yesterday at a local archery shop but they were only like 100 grains though. i bet thoes 220's make a big 'ole hole.
The 220's aren't any bigger, just heavier.
I went back to the 125's, they seem to shoot flatter for me. I know it's just in my head but ya gotta use what you have confidence in and I have great confidence in the 125 Phantoms. Shot completely thru my moose this year and stuck in the ground with a 55# bow.
I have wondered about the other muzzy heads as well. The Tocar tip looks deadly on it's own.
John Sr was a very accomplished bowhunter and like others have said, he used 'em all the time.
This is what a 220 Phantom will do. He went 60 yards. (Heart Shot)
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I tested them on a dead doe, at 15 yard with a #45 Bear recurve i got 10+in of penetration, this was a 2215 gamegetter 100 3 blade muzzy, i have no reason not to trust them! That being said i shoot Phantoms :bigsmyl:
The Stainless is very hard. they are a little hard to sharpen but hold a edge. the head I killed the buck above with was still sharp even after it went through the deer and was stuck in the ground.