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Title: Drill for Plunger Style Rest
Post by: Bowwild on November 20, 2010, 01:38:00 PM
I had been shooting from a shelf with all my recurves until I received a demo-bow from Schafer. It was one of Dave's personal bows and like Paul (so I hear)he shoots from an elevated rest. I liked it.

Instead of the Bear Weather that some use with fine results I'm sure, I prefer a plunger-style springy with larger than normal coils and the arm bent parallel to the shaft to avoid fletch damage.

The fine folks at Schafer are willing to drill my bow (on order) for this plunger. Have any of you done such a thing--drill a custom recurve for a plunger-style rest?

If you're wondering, I had/have no complaints with shelf-shooting. Once tuned and fletching turned (for me index vane down) I've had no clearance problems or fletch wear shooting from the shelf. I do sense though the springy will be more forgiving and more tuneable.  

I'm definitely NOT trying to suggest that anyone should go this route.  I know this idea moves away from simplistic and gadget-free shooting that many traditional fans subrscribe too, but I sure pay attention to what the bowhunting greats do/did?
Title: Re: Drill for Plunger Style Rest
Post by: cacciatore on November 20, 2010, 01:45:00 PM
In the past I used a NAP flipper rest and I had great results;but I prefere something that can't brake very close to my hand,since I cant the bow a little bit.Nothing wrong with your decision,but maybe it will have a lower selling price.
Title: Re: Drill for Plunger Style Rest
Post by: cacciatore on November 20, 2010, 01:46:00 PM
Title: Re: Drill for Plunger Style Rest
Post by: Bowwild on November 20, 2010, 01:55:00 PM
Yep, I've thought about the resale value. But as I'm sure you'll understand, I don't buy any bow with resale in mind. I'm always hopeful (knowing that it won't always work out) that the bow will be mine as long as I'm kicking.

However, I am thinking to have a "plug" or "medallion" made to fill or cover this hole if I did decide to move it someday to someone who didn't want the techie doo-dad.

I have this style of rest on the Stick I'm hunting with this year and I am crazy about it.
Title: Re: Drill for Plunger Style Rest
Post by: Bowwild on November 20, 2010, 01:58:00 PM
By the way cacciatore, I'm a bit north of you here in England for the next 10 days. I'm entertaining my newest grandson (4 months) for the first time. I'm going to see if I can train him to be Left-Eye dominant before I head back home!  While my wife and I were waiting on a bus to Miildenhall (from London) I saw a bus to Nottingham.  Boy, it took a lot for me to not jump on that bus and go find the sheriff and pretend a bit!
Title: Re: Drill for Plunger Style Rest
Post by: cacciatore on November 20, 2010, 01:59:00 PM
I am like you Roy,I am able to sell no bow.
Title: Re: Drill for Plunger Style Rest
Post by: straitera on November 20, 2010, 02:00:00 PM
Better you than me. Like putting an Obama sticker on a Mercedes. (Does this Ass make my car look big?) JMHO, I did add a sticky Bear plastic flipper rest to my compound 35 years ago after many springys & others. Worked perfect.
Title: Re: Drill for Plunger Style Rest
Post by: Bowwild on November 20, 2010, 02:06:00 PM
straitera,
I know!  I was surpised when Beth indicated Dave had drilled many bows this way in the past. I've just never heard anyone here talking about this and haven't seen pictures of it. I'm hoping to ferret someone out who has done this.
Title: Re: Drill for Plunger Style Rest
Post by: Hud on November 20, 2010, 02:15:00 PM
I had an elevated rest with a spring/arm and button on two bows, some years back when I was also shooting target/field. It worked well when the bow was vertical, but canting was a problem as from a kneeling position, etc. I prefer the arrow closer to the hand, typical for a longbow. I cut the shelf low on my recurves; it is easier when shooting moving targets.
Title: Re: Drill for Plunger Style Rest
Post by: RLA on November 20, 2010, 03:48:00 PM
You mean an ugly Obama bumper sticker like this one?

    (http://www.angeloholsteins.com/images/Pictures/Hunting/bows-007.jpg)

  (http://www.angeloholsteins.com/images/Pictures/Hunting/bows-006.jpg)

This riser is cut more than 3/16" past center and set up to use an elevated rest and or plunger if I choose to, you can see the bushing in the picture. I don't plan on selling so I'm not worried about resale.


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Title: Re: Drill for Plunger Style Rest
Post by: RLA on November 20, 2010, 03:55:00 PM
I prefer shooting off the shelf, but just like quiver inserts, there nice if you decide you want to use them. If your hunting in rainy weather you can shoot vanes nicely off an elevated rest. Maybe a nice option to have?
Title: Re: Drill for Plunger Style Rest
Post by: cacciatore on November 20, 2010, 04:36:00 PM
Bowwild,I passed by there when I was a teenager but not yet a archer.I remember I had some great beer.For sure the best beer are from England/Scotland.
Title: Re: Drill for Plunger Style Rest
Post by: ksbowman on November 20, 2010, 06:35:00 PM
I shoot with an elevated rest and started doing it in the 70's. I think of my bows as my tools and if I want an insert or a modification I do it. I always make them look as good as possible and thats good enough for me. I have shot and owned bows that were drilled for plungers and the plungers really help in tuning your equiptment. If you want a plunger I say go for it and make yourself happy and don't worry about the resale or what others think about. You can't please everyone, so you've got to please yourself (Rick Nelson). LOL
Title: Re: Drill for Plunger Style Rest
Post by: njloco on November 20, 2010, 08:02:00 PM
I hope you don't think that the Indians would not have used a plunger or for that matter a wheeler to beat the white man if it had been available.
Title: Re: Drill for Plunger Style Rest
Post by: Hookeye on November 21, 2010, 02:07:00 AM
Uh, the indians would probably have bought rifles.
Title: Re: Drill for Plunger Style Rest
Post by: Hookeye on November 21, 2010, 02:10:00 AM
RLA, you need more chromie my homie.
Title: Re: Drill for Plunger Style Rest
Post by: Bowwild on November 21, 2010, 08:06:00 AM
RLA,
Thanks for posting the picture of the Morrison(?) with the plunger insert. Of course I've seen the inserts before but never on such a nice looking bow like yours. I'm pleasantly surprised that it really doesn't spoil the look or lines of the bow.  Your picture did it, I'm going full-steam ahead with the plunger hole!  

Phooey, if for some reason I decided the Schafer won't work out and wanted to sell it (can't imagine) since mine will be a lefty it will be worth twice as much and sell before I've clicked "Add Reply".  This is because with the window cut on the side opposite that Neptune's moon rotates around its planet, LH bows are more quick to return the string to center alignment after the shot. LH bows also help with blood trailing because the opposite spin put on a drop of blood catches light better on leaves dropped after October 18th. I know, I should have warned you'ns to put on higher boots before posting these facts of life as a leftie.
Title: Re: Drill for Plunger Style Rest
Post by: RLA on November 21, 2010, 01:49:00 PM
That's some funny? sss,stuff! Bowwild. The bow in the pic's is my wifes, mine arn't nearly as fancy, chrome wise. Her bow is a Border 17" ilf and Morrison limbs.
Title: Re: Drill for Plunger Style Rest
Post by: njloco on November 21, 2010, 07:13:00 PM
Uh, yes that is true,and they did at a much later date. You could also say they would have bought canons and bombs. However if they could have made a plunger or a wheeler they would have used it,either one uses metal parts but the plunger would have been much easier to fabricate especially when compared to a rifle, Uh don't you think ?
Title: Re: Drill for Plunger Style Rest
Post by: Paul WA on November 22, 2010, 12:26:00 AM
I have the NAP center rest on my ILF and really like it...PR
Title: Re: Drill for Plunger Style Rest
Post by: Hookeye on November 22, 2010, 12:43:00 AM
NJ,

And why would they waste time trying to perfect one part of a lesser system when other more powerful systems could be purchased?

They were at war, no real development time available.

To suggest such is wallowing in the less than factual romance of archery and not logical (Spock eyebrow raised).