Trad Gang

Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Ryan Sanpei on November 18, 2010, 02:22:00 PM

Title: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on November 18, 2010, 02:22:00 PM
For those of you who have been following the New Stalker Longbow post, I promised a story about my goat hunt.

It was 10:30am and I was waiting patiently to make my move on two billy goats who decided to bed under a kiawe tree.  I lay hidden behind another lone kiawe tree thirty five yards away while watching the goats every move.  The wind was perfect, blowing about twenty miles per hour, straight into my face.  I had no cover from me to the goats, except for a low sloping ledge. Additionally one billy was facing in my direction.   I just decided to wait it out and hope for the best. One hour passed, but I was still pinned down with the one billy facing in my direction. I was getting restless, but I knew that if I made my move now, I would only get busted.  (These goats are almost as smart as deer because they are heavily pressured.)  Half hour passed and the billy that faced me decided to get up.  I guess he too was getting a little restless.  Luckily he walked behind the tree and stopped with his head behind the trunk of the tree, while the other billy lay bedded in the opposite direction.  It was my time to make my move.  Because I was perched on a small ledge above them, I could crawl an extra ten to fifteen yards without being seen.  I bellied crawled ever so slowly to close the gap.  I crawled as far as possible. It was twenty yards between me and the closest billy.  Both were nice sized billy goats and I would've been happy with either one.  With the wind in my face and no eyes on me, I got to my knees and set my bow for the shot.  The goats had no clue that I was there.  I picked a tuff of hair on the closest billy, drew my bow back, squeezed by back, focused and released.  Upon release, the shot felt perfect.  But...just before the arrow left my bow, I felt a small tug on my lower limb and my heart sank.  The limb tip had nipped the ground.  (I usually shoot a 56" bow, but the prototype longbow was 60", but no excuses.  I knew that before going into the hunt.)  Needless to say the arrow missed its mark and the billies took off.  I followed them with my binos to see where their escape route was.  Disheartened, I grabbed my arrow, pack and found a tree to reflect and eat lunch.

More to come......
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Stumpkiller on November 18, 2010, 02:38:00 PM
Sounds like heaven to me.  Bowhunting without mittens and seven layers of clothing.  Mmmmmmmm.

Plus, I like the Hawaiian Camo.

(http://whitetail.com/HAWAII1.jpg)
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Cottonwood on November 18, 2010, 02:39:00 PM
Great reflection of the hunt there in Hawai'i, can't wait to read the rest of the story.

Now that picture is funny, cuz I have the same shirt.
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Ben Maher on November 18, 2010, 02:55:00 PM
Good stuff mate !
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: cacciatore on November 18, 2010, 03:33:00 PM
It happens in the best families.
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on November 18, 2010, 04:47:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Stumpkiller:
Sounds like heaven to me.  Bowhunting without mittens and seven layers of clothing.  Mmmmmmmm.

Plus, I like the Hawaiian Camo.

  (http://whitetail.com/HAWAII1.jpg)
LOL!   :biglaugh:   Where's the matching shorts!
I know what you mean, I just came back from Nebraska and with all my clothes on, I felt like the Michelin Man.
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Jesse Minish on November 18, 2010, 06:00:00 PM
Looking forward to the rest. I cant wait to get back and hunt Hawaii!
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: ozzyshane on November 18, 2010, 06:24:00 PM
ryan goats get real smart with a lot of pressure what eles can you hunt on the island ???
The new bow looks a bit dif then the protype
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on November 18, 2010, 06:55:00 PM
Hey Shane,
Yeah you should see the goats on public land in Hawaii.  They get poached, eradicated and hunted whenever possible.  Last month we hunted some that would run if they spotted hunters from a few hundred yards away.  I swear hunting some of these public land goats are as tough as hunting deer!

We have axis deer, muflon, black tailed deer, pigs, feral sheep, feral goats, turkeys and a bunch of game birds.  Public hunting is getting rough though!  Enviromentalists are taking over the islands.

Check out this thread about our game in Hawaii.

http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=090560;p=1

The two longbows are a little different.  South is still in the R&D phase.
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on November 18, 2010, 06:57:00 PM
Thanks for the kind words gang!

PART 2

After finishing lunch, I regrouped and started my trek up the hill.  Along the way, I took periodic rest stops to glass.  I spotted a few herds up above me which was a great sign.  I made a game plan then headed to the direction of the nearest herd of goats.  Closing the distance of 100 yards, the herd decided to head their way into a small ravine.  Perfect, I thought to myself, I could approach them from above without them winding or spotting me.  I visually marked where they went down.  Upon approaching the ledge of the ravine, I carefully peered over.  The goats were feeding in the dry river bed below.  While watching, I heard the sounds of a rutting billy, (which reminds me of the laughter of the 3 stooges).  Tracking the sound, I made a visual on the lone billy chasing nanny goats.  He became my next target.  Quiet and carefully I snuck down the densely covered ravine side.  I made it down to the bottom without being detected.  The billy started to chase the nanny goats all over the dry river bed.  I had closed the distance to 25 yards.  The only problem now was that the billy wouldn't stop moving and he kept slipping in and out of the brush.  The nanny goats stopped to feed and so did the billy.  I found a small window to shoot through.  Focused on the billy, I made a rookie mistake and took my eyes off of the scout nanny.  When I lifted my bow to shoot, she caught my movement, blew, and took the rest of the herd with her in an instant.  I couldn't believe how wary these goats were. Discouraged and frustrated, I climbed out of the ravine and headed to meet up with my hunting partner.  It was about 4:30 and I met up with my friend to discuss the day's events.  Tired and dejected, I told my friend about my missed opportunities.  At that point, I felt like calling it a day and heading home.  While looking at the Stalker bow, I remembered a conversation that I had with South Cox.  He had told me about a hunt that he had recently been on.  His "never give up" attitude was what sealed the deal for him on a magnificent buck.  His story at that point in time really inspired me.  I took what he told me to heart and used it to bring me out of my momentary slump.  I asked my friend if it was okay with him to give it one last shot.  He told me "go get um" and the hunt was on!
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: rastaman on November 18, 2010, 07:38:00 PM
Great story so far Ryan!
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on November 19, 2010, 01:40:00 AM
Goat Country!

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_1036.jpg)
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: cacciatore on November 19, 2010, 02:41:00 AM
Very nice Ryan.
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Guru on November 19, 2010, 04:50:00 AM
Good stuff bro    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Bivyhunter on November 19, 2010, 10:45:00 AM
ARRRRR... you're killin' me with the suspense. You should be fined for the "to be continued". I hate cliff-hangers!
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on November 19, 2010, 02:02:00 PM
Thanks guys!

PART 3

I had two hours of daylight left, so I needed to get to a vantage point quick!  I headed straight for the nearest ridgeline.  I found a spot and hid under the shade of a tree. I spotted a few goats grazing, but they were way too far given the amount of time that I had left.  While glassing, the day's events played through my mind, things that I did wrong and things that I did right.  Even though my spirits were low, I was still elated by the fact that I was in the outdoors toting my stick and string.  Suddenly, out of nowhere I spotted a single nanny, then a billy and another billy.  It was as if they popped out of the thin air. They were grazing at a face pace about 300 yards above me.  I had to make my move.  I gathered my gear, looped around and sprinted to find an ambush location.  I had a hunch that these goats would end up on the same goat trail that the other ones used in the morning to escape from me.  It was a gamble but I was willing to take the chance. I kept visual contact on the goats until I got within 100 yards. At this point I had to make my move to the ambush location.  (The goats were so wary; I wanted to ambush them instead of trying to put on another stalk.)  All or nothing I thought to myself.  I got to the well used goat trail and set up just under 20 yards behind a pile of rocks. Just as I situated myself, I saw goat horns bobbing up and down.  They're coming I thought to myself. The wind was in my face and the sun was at my back, couldn't ask for anything better.  Adrenaline pumping, I had to tell myself to calm down.  With my bow arm set in the position of the goat trail, I reminded myself of two things, don't get greedy, take a shot at the first mature billy and adjust for the added length of the limb tip.  The goats were now on the trail. From my angle all I could see was horns! They were 40 yards to my right, then 30, and finally just under 20 and broadside.  I ever so slowly lifted myself enough to clear the limb tip, all the while focusing on the lead billy goats vitals.  The goats were still unaware of my presence. I drew my bow slowly, inches at a time, hit my anchor, squeezed and off my arrow went. Pock! The arrow had hit its mark! Jackpot!!! Overwhelming feelings of emotions hit me in an instant. Last hour of the last day.  I couldn't believe it. The sun began to set and I thought to myself, I couldn't ask for a better way to end my day!
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Stumpkiller on November 19, 2010, 02:07:00 PM
Outstanding.  That terrain looks killer but sure is pretty.


<<<< ARRRRR... you're killin' me with the suspense. You should be fined for the "to be continued". I hate cliff-hangers! >>>>


Relax.  You know life is more laid back in those little lattitudes.

Shoot de goat, mon.

No, wait.  That's some other island.
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on November 19, 2010, 02:20:00 PM
South's "Never Give Up" attitude helped me to have a successful hunting trip!

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/1113001732a.jpg)
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on November 19, 2010, 02:24:00 PM
Charlie,

"Ho brah go shoot da goat befo da ting go'n run away"

  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Jesse Minish on November 19, 2010, 02:33:00 PM
Congrats! Nice looking billy and a great shot! You on the big island?
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: jesse cales on November 19, 2010, 03:14:00 PM
always love your stories,ryan!great job  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Terry Green on November 19, 2010, 03:15:00 PM
Congrats!!!.....

BTW, what type of bow is that and what wood is the riser????....that is a BEAUT!
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on November 19, 2010, 04:42:00 PM
Jesse M,  Thanks,  I'm from Oahu and the goat hunt took place on Maui.

Jesse C.  Appreciate the kind words!    ;)    

Thanks Terry,
It's the prototype longbow by South Cox of Stalker Custom Recurves.  He built the riser with a brown action wood. If you think that one was nice, wait to see when he comes out with a custom wood riser. This was one of his first protoypes.  It's now on it's way to Montana to be tested by another Trad Gang member. South has gotten feedback from his customers/friends over the past month and currently working on his latest prototype.  The longbow that I got to "test drive" performed well.  It had no handshock/risidual limb vibration.  The draw was smooth out to 28".  It pointed well.  The speeds were comparable to his recurves.  I can only forsee his longbows getting even better.
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Wiley Coyote on November 19, 2010, 05:39:00 PM
That is a good sized goat!!! Congratulations!!!  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: njloco on November 19, 2010, 05:54:00 PM
Very good story, I was on the edge of the computer chair while reading. You got it done brother and have a real nice goat to show for it.
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on November 19, 2010, 06:58:00 PM
Terry,
Here are a few more pics.


(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_1030-1.jpg)

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_1031.jpg)

Aloha,
Ryan
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: DHR on November 19, 2010, 07:04:00 PM
nice billy, nice bow!
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on November 19, 2010, 07:05:00 PM
Thanks guys!

QuoteOriginally posted by njloco:
Very good story, I was on the edge of the computer chair while reading. You got it done brother and have a real nice goat to show for it.
Funny story....I hated to write in high school!  Maybe I would've gotten better gades if my english teacher let me write stories about fishing, skin diving, or hunting.  :goldtooth:
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Blacktail101 on November 19, 2010, 07:13:00 PM
Congrats on a beautiful animal and great story i have not had the pleasure to shoot one of his long bows yet but it sure looks like you are enjoying it so far lol nice pic also
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: cacciatore on November 19, 2010, 07:13:00 PM
Great Ryan.I like people that never give up.
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: dirtguy on November 19, 2010, 07:22:00 PM
:clapper:     :clapper:    :clapper:
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on November 20, 2010, 01:55:00 AM
Terry,
Pics of the other longbow prototype.

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/quarteringstrunglongbow.jpg)

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/longbowcarbonoverlay.jpg)
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Jesse Minish on November 20, 2010, 12:05:00 PM
Sweet looking bows!
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: ozzyshane on November 20, 2010, 05:30:00 PM
Ryan i like the look of the handle in the last post what were the specs of the bow and your arrow combo you used on the goat Thanks Shane
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on November 20, 2010, 09:11:00 PM
Hey Shane,
The bow that I was using was 60"   51# @ 26"
The arrow was an axis 500 cut to 27"
The broadhead was a 125gr snuffer with a 75gr adapter for a total of 200gr
I also use an aluminum sleeve on the tip end for another 15gr
Total arrow weight was 472gr.

Aloha!
Ryan
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: rastaman on November 20, 2010, 09:25:00 PM
Way to go again Ryan!     :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on November 22, 2010, 11:54:00 AM
Thanks again guys!  :wavey:  

Hey Leonard,  good luck on your upcoming trip!  :thumbsup:  

Aloha!
Ryan
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: mmisciag on November 22, 2010, 07:30:00 PM
Great story and beautiful bow.

That was fun.

Thanks!

Martin
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: sbschindler on November 22, 2010, 10:01:00 PM
The test continues in Montana,

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/134sawney/stalkerlongbow001.jpg)

a little bit of a shock from Hawaii to north east montana, its just barley above zero as i took my first few shots with the bow.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/134sawney/stalkerlongbow007.jpg)

these were my first 4 or 5 shots out of this bow, it is a shooter for sure. the 2 arrows in the bag are feild tipped and the one in the block was a termonator broadhead from 20 yards, missed by a inch.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/134sawney/stalkerlongbow016.jpg)

I took it down to the river to do a little bit of Whitetail hunting this afternoon. no shots but it was a comfortable afternoon.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/134sawney/stalkerlongbow013.jpg)

nice looking bow.
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on November 22, 2010, 11:42:00 PM
Sweet Pics!  Thanks for sharing!  :thumbsup:  

What an extreme, from white sandy beaches to snow covered mountains!

Good luck Steve!
Title: Re: "Never Give Up!" (goat hunting story from Stalker Longbow post) bow now in Montana!
Post by: Matty on November 23, 2010, 12:04:00 AM
Congratulations! Great Pix and yes Insanely gorgeous bow!