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Title: howard hill backquiver
Post by: john4645 on November 14, 2010, 11:30:00 AM
A few years ago I saw a HH back quiver and decided to make one. The Original I saw was made out of heavy leather 8-9oz. so that is what I made. I only use it during the summer at 3d shoots. I would like to use it for some hunting applications but it is still pretty stiff and the arrows make noise. I am rubbing it down and you can see that it is starting to conformto my back a little. But now I see that HH archery sells a quiver that is made of lighter leather, They did not advertise this back when I made mine. Does anyone here have that quiver and do you like it? should I either buy or make one out of the lighter leather? or should I just keep rubbing mine down and make it softer? is the lighter leather one more like Howard hunted with? any and all responses welcome. Thanks
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Title: Re: howard hill backquiver
Post by: ron w on November 14, 2010, 04:17:00 PM
I would think the more you use it the better it will get. A bit of sheepskin around the opening will also cut the noise down!
Title: Re: howard hill backquiver
Post by: Irish Archer on November 14, 2010, 05:23:00 PM
I bought the "soft" quiver from HHA early this year but just started using it about a month ago.

I will say that I'm very pleased with it so far. I think I will use it for a long time. It's very well made.

I think that you'd probably like it too.
Title: Re: howard hill backquiver
Post by: Ric O'Shay on November 14, 2010, 09:27:00 PM
I had one of the original heavy leather quivers many years ago. Just received a soft leather quiver after talking to Craig. It is much better. I recommend that you go ahead and order one from Craig. You will receive it before you could make one, much less get the other to soften up.

Danny
Title: Re: howard hill backquiver
Post by: jdemoya on November 14, 2010, 09:51:00 PM
Put the quiver (folded over itself) under the cushion of your sofa and sit on it for several days. That should make it conform to your back. It was Howard's method. It works.

God bless,

Jose
Title: Re: howard hill backquiver
Post by: Bill Turner on November 15, 2010, 02:34:00 PM
Not a back quiver fan but I saw Ric O'Shays recently. Was a quality product, like everything else Craig provides. After talking with Ric O'Shay the soft model is the way to go.
Title: Re: howard hill backquiver
Post by: Ralphie on December 02, 2010, 03:13:00 PM
I got the soft HH quiver about a month ago. I like that it conforms to your body. When you bend over to pick up an arrow, the arrows don't spill out.It is a simple and elegant design. The leather is thick and soft. I am glad I did not buy one of the stiffer, (usually latigo leather/ gun holster type thickness), leather quivers. Arrows rattle around in the stiffer leather quivers. The HH quiver is a bargain by the way.
Title: Re: howard hill backquiver
Post by: Rob DiStefano on December 02, 2010, 08:23:00 PM
i've made and used both stiff and supple backquivers, and prefer the supple, softer one as it conforms to your back and sorta wraps around the arrows, to keep them quieter.
Title: Re: howard hill backquiver
Post by: Okie man on December 02, 2010, 08:46:00 PM
I have the softer leather HH quiver and one that Shell made me a few years ago.  I like Shell's better because it is even more supple than the HH and sits at an angle that makes it easier to reach the arrows.  It also has a coyote fur cuff at the top and a bigger pouch sewn on.  The problem it is just too pretty to hunt with and the fur cuff caused me to get swooped by an owl one morning while I was still hunting.  I hunt with the HH and like it.
Title: Re: howard hill backquiver
Post by: Lee Robinson . on December 02, 2010, 10:48:00 PM
I have made the 8-9 oz quivers...and they do conform to the back over time, especially if mink oiled regularly...but it does take time and they still remain a bit stiff. They are fine for field points, judo points, blunts or even 2 blades...but if you ever use a 3 blade broadhead like snuffers they make a "schuuuuk" sound as you draw them out. I have been told you can fill the quiver with oats to eliminate ALL arrow sound, but I never did so. I don't like that; however, I don't carry a backquiver when I hunt with broadheads anymore. When I hunt, I use a GN bowquiver now. This quiver is about 12-13 years old and still solid. Unfortunately, it is a right handed model, and I have since switched to left handed...and it looks like my son is going to be left eye dominant too...so, what am I to do with this one? Maybe my nephew will get a present for X-mas?

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Title: Re: howard hill backquiver
Post by: Lee Robinson . on December 02, 2010, 11:01:00 PM
Here is my daughter with a beaverquiver I made her. The main body is much softer leather than my quiver above, and it is probably more comfortable. I double lined the bottom of my quiver in the post above, which may not have been necessary but I did it anyway...and in this softer quiver the bottom is STILL made out of the heavier stiffer leather and is also double lined line the one above.

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Title: Re: howard hill backquiver
Post by: Stone Knife on December 03, 2010, 04:18:00 AM
I have the softer one from Hill and like it.
Title: Re: howard hill backquiver
Post by: Lee Robinson . on December 03, 2010, 09:51:00 AM
FYI, I do NOT sell backquivers anymore. Just wanted to clear that up. If anyone wants to make their own and think I can help them with such, feel free to let me know.
Title: Re: howard hill backquiver
Post by: bigbadjon on December 03, 2010, 10:44:00 AM
I have a thick Hill style made by Steve Catts. When I was wearing it a rainstorm blew in and soaked it. While wet it conformed to my back and works great.
Title: Re: howard hill backquiver
Post by: LPN on December 03, 2010, 01:43:00 PM
I've tried a few and settled on Nate Steens,,custom fit for me, he asks for various measurements when you order,,he uses bridle leather which doesn't get stiff in cold weather. Couldn't ask for a better fitting or more durable back quiver.
Title: Re: howard hill backquiver
Post by: Irish Archer on December 03, 2010, 11:18:00 PM
LPN,

You have an email address for Nate by chance. I can't locate one.
Title: Re: howard hill backquiver
Post by: trapper on December 04, 2010, 01:45:00 PM
John,
From the look of your picture the quiver is starting to form to your back. You can wet it down then wear it which will speed the forming process up. The arrows in mind were also making some noise and just by changing the angle of the strap with some new holes took care of that. I have a friend that hunts with nothing else, he changed his and it is totally quiet. The more you use it the better it will be.
Title: Re: howard hill backquiver
Post by: Irish Archer on December 04, 2010, 03:32:00 PM
LPN,

Thanks anyway, but I found it.
Title: Re: howard hill backquiver
Post by: john4645 on December 04, 2010, 07:23:00 PM
Trapper,

Yes it is breaking in ok and I do love it a lot. But I want it to be like this one pictured. I am going to either buy a softer one from Craig or this winter make a softer one. I am going to keep my original and use it.

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Title: Re: howard hill backquiver
Post by: flyfish1 on December 05, 2010, 09:37:00 AM
trapper where should the holes be at what angle to make quiter? Any pics would help.
Title: Re: howard hill backquiver
Post by: 58WINTERS on December 09, 2010, 07:10:00 PM
JOHN4645
Use Lexol leather conditioner inside and out. It appears it is just starting to form to your back. It will continue to get better the more you use it. It does take time. Neetsfoot oil would probably speed up the process but you may end up with a quiver too soft. I have a Steve Catts Hill style quiver that was quite stiff when it was new but has formed perfectly through use and Lexol conditioning. I would at least give this a try before springing for a new quiver. Lexol is usually found where there is horse tack or saddlery farm or ranch supply stores.
Title: Re: howard hill backquiver
Post by: David Mitchell on December 10, 2010, 09:50:00 AM
flyfish1, the best way to adjust the strap on the quiver is to use a strong clamp at the top to experiment with different positions and angles.
Title: Re: howard hill backquiver
Post by: straitera on December 10, 2010, 12:38:00 PM
Beautiful quivers Lee & John. I also have the heavier leather just now softening up. I wear it all the time & wouldn't use anything else. I did add a wool collar to the top. It is now conforming to my back & very quiet.