Having any luck out there this year? I've been out quite a few times so far this year, but haven't been able to close the deal. Any pics to show? My buddy said these heads are a gimmick and I haven't been able to prove him wrong yet!
Nothing gimmicky about cutting an 1 9/16 or 2 inch hole thru something...they loose a lot of liquid and go down quick.
Tell him to look at the pics on their site.
I looks like the concave design along with the overall length of the head can make for an entrance and exit sometimes much larger than the width of the head especially on angled shots.
http://www.simmonssharks.com/node/5 looks at the kill shots(the one of the bear)
Do a search. There are a lot of die-hard Simmons fans out there. I really want to try mine, but just can't get them as sharp as I'd like, close, but not quite. Shooting a big broadhead like the Tree Shark, even the Interseptor, from bows around #50, I want them scary sharp. I'm still working at it though. I'll be going with my Sasquatch or Magnus 1 til then.
There was a thread once with pics of game taken with Simmons and it was quite impressive, and graphic. If Stevie Wonder bowhunted he'd be shootin' Tree Sharks! Lol!
Here are a few from a previous post (http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=089596)
Hang in there Toney and you will get your chance. I've shot two this season with a Simmons Interceptor. They make big holes.
I knew Doug would be along on this one. Lol! His handle says it all. While you're here Doug, how do you sharpen yours? I recently got a half dozen Interseptors and finally worked one close to what I want for an edge with the Steel Master. I got it used and don't have instructions for it, so I'm not sure I'm going at it correctly. I also tried the Wheelie and close but not good enough with that either. They fly beautifully and I want to hunt with them.
Your buddy is dead wrong they are awsome. I have killed over 100 deer with them. Killed 6 so far this year, if it cuts under 1.5" it is for small game. They fly great, make big holes and leave great blood trails. Go to the web site he has pics on there.LCH
Hows it going Danny. Let me just start off by saying that I am sharpening challenged. I was really having a time sharpening my broadheads. But recently two things have changed my success rate when it comes to sharpening. First, I used the Interceptor sharpening tutorial created by Chris Spikes. I bought the razor's edge and the diamond hones. Second, when Dave O bought the company he went back to the 20 degree grind on the broadhead edge. It seems that the second owner was using 30 degree grind. It was explainede to me that the 30 degree grind was cheeper to produce. But it made them harder to sharpen. The grind that Dave is using know is the same one that Mr. Jerry used. The two deer that I have shot this year with the new heads have left good blood trails.
This is what the ground look like every foot on the last deer.
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And this is what she look like when I found her.
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Here's a turkey from earlier this year! He traveled two steps.
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165gr. Landshark screw in is my favorite broadhead.
Thanks for the pics everyone! I'm heading back out in the morning to try my luck again.
Thanks Doug. Knowing it's a 20 degree grind gives me a better place to start. I have to do everything by hand, no room for grinders and such on the boat.
highPlains,
That's a fine looking gobbler. CONGRATS :thumbsup:
HighPlains that picture is just perfect! Nice looking bow too. That pic wil be going in my WallPaper Rotation.
Proving it to him, yourself, will do more for both you and your friend.
Maintain your confidence and hang in there.
Many others maintain excellent confidence in these heads.
I killed a good bull this year with a 165gr landshark with the bleeder in. Hit a little back but the broadhead nearly cut the liver in half. The bull went less than 200 yards laid down and bled out within 10 minutes.....Shawn
Tony your buddy is probably some knuckle draggen cave man type.Who wouldnt know an excellent broad head design if it hit him in the face.Just my 2 cents.
I killed a nice 10 point this year with a treeshark. The wound was CRAZY large with the agle I shot him. I am now trying interceptors. These heads fly GREAT and I shoot them A LOT. They are tough and I have learned to get them scapel sharp. BILL
What's the gimmick with a BIG sharp head on the end of an arrow? 45# Quinn Stallion with a 190 grain interceptor. 25 yard shot, 60 yard recovery. I've killed a lot of deer with the Simmons!
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Cannot go wrong with a Simmons head no matter which one you chose. I have 6 left out of a dozen that Jerry gave me back in 1990. You do not have to hit the deer just get close it will scare them to death. (Just kidding). I do however have a problem in getting the new ones sharp. It seems that the manufacture lengthened the Ferrell to give the point more strength. Everything I use hits the Ferrell making it almost impossible to sharpen. I like using a Lanskie (sp) but I have to grind off part of the ferrule in order to get the front 1/3 of the head sharp.This is at 20 or 30 degrees. Even the drag tools hit the Ferrell and bounces right over the blade. I tried grinding off the tool a bit and still hits. Not sure what to do.
Pat55, I use a gatco jig with a jewelstick that is threaded on the end and accepts a rod to go into the gatco. I go 22 degrees with the course to get a burr ON BOTH SIDES and then mediume and fine. I finish with a couple swipes on a leather strop and I swear they are like a razor. BILL
I shoot the 165interseptor glue-ons nasty blood makers.No problem following blood trail.Wish I had tried them years ago.Those are my permanent
broadheads now.
Not a gimmick at all. I like them.
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These are some of the most nastiest looking wounds I ever seen..... I think I like it.
Anyone have problems sharpening them with a paper wheel due to the curvature of the blade?
I use the paper wheel that Centaur sells. It is narrower than the one sold by ABS and fits in the "curve" better. The steelmaster sharpening system sold by simmons works really well also.
I really appreciate all the pics! Pure CARNAGE!!!!
Matt, which ones are you using? WOW. BILL
Thanks Bullfrog, I checked it out and it looks exactly like the Lansky system. Can't really see any difference. I am going to see if I can find these locally and have a better look. Maybe I picked up some defective heads. They look like the originals I have just with the Ferrell longer. Maybe they are not supposed to be that way. Dun know.
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Thanks Bullfrog, I checked it out and it looks exactly like the Lansky system. Can't really see any difference. I am going to see if I can find these locally and have a better look. Maybe I picked up some defective heads. They look like the originals I have just with the Ferrell longer. Maybe they are not supposed to be that way. Dun know.
Maybe not defective heads at all----the Simmons are a bit challenging to get your initial edge on, but once you have them sharp it is simple to touch them up on a ceramic stick in the field.
Bill, I am using the 2" Treeshark. The top pic I was using the Treeshark with the bleeder blade installed. The bottom two were with the glue on two blade shark. All I use is the two blade now. The bleeder blade usually ends up broken off inside the animal anyway.
Thanks
Dave makes a 175gr tigershark screw in head that is pretty wicked.
Just got some treesharks last week and got to try them on Sat. afternoon.........
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not a gimick - hard working broadheads
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I've taken too may deer and bear with the 190 gr. Interceptor to count, including the big bear in my avatar photo. They cut BIG holes and fly really well. The guy who started it all, Jerry Simmons, is a friend of mine. Many years ago Jerry gave me the prototype for his SteelMaster sharpening system (I think that's what he called it.) After that I could put a hair rolling edge on those concave heads in a hurry.