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Title: another doe down pics added(think ill be changing bhs)
Post by: stevewills on November 01, 2010, 10:07:00 PM
well got to go out,weekends are a no no.but im fortunite enough to work only 3 hours a day but get paid really well.got out about 2:30 and figured i would set in one of my food plot stands cause the wind was swirling...got settled in hooked up my hss and settled in for a long night so i thought.seen several deer early spooked 2 going in so i figured it was over before it started but was the best night so far seen 6 bucks and 7 does the bucks were not what i want too shoot yet.well seen deer al night on the edges of the woods but didnt want to come in to the plot.well finaly right at 6,3 came in for a visit.2 stayed out at 35yds.and the smaller of the three came in real close.well she stayed under some overhanging branchs well before i knew it she was 3 yards,i have practiced this shot hundreds of time in my stand in the back yard well i let her pass a little and got her slightly quartering away shot was right where i was looking,high in the lung and took a slice of heart and offset lung complete pass through,35 yd.recovery...was a good night...will someone post some pics for me
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Post by: bolong on November 01, 2010, 10:14:00 PM
:thumbsup:    Congrats!!! Good shooting!
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Post by: steadman on November 01, 2010, 10:22:00 PM
Congrats!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: steadman on November 01, 2010, 10:39:00 PM
entrance

(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h160/steadman_2006/doe1.jpg)

exit

(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h160/steadman_2006/doepic2exit.jpg)

Good shooting!
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Post by: hunterbob on November 01, 2010, 10:59:00 PM
good job Steve.looks like some good eating right there.
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Post by: joe ashton on November 01, 2010, 11:01:00 PM
excellent shot and pics
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Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on November 02, 2010, 04:02:00 AM
:thumbsup:
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Post by: pitbull on November 02, 2010, 05:29:00 AM
Way to go!   :clapper:
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Post by: Hooper on November 02, 2010, 05:59:00 AM
Nice shooting! Congrats!!!
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Post by: rastaman on November 02, 2010, 06:19:00 AM
:thumbsup:     :thumbsup:
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Post by: Bonebuster on November 02, 2010, 06:42:00 AM
If god had NOT intended us to eat animals, he wouldn`t have made them out of meat!!!  :D
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Post by: bornagainbowhunter on November 02, 2010, 08:53:00 AM
:thumbsup:
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Post by: Tom Leemans on November 02, 2010, 10:26:00 AM
I'm glad to see a bunch of people taking does this year. We need to get the ration under control.
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Post by: steadman on November 02, 2010, 10:35:00 AM
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h160/steadman_2006/doe3.jpg)
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Post by: Apex Predator on November 02, 2010, 10:58:00 AM
Great job bud!
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Post by: stevewills on November 02, 2010, 01:33:00 PM
i think this is the last year ill be using 2 bladed broadheads,i have killed 2 does with 2 different 2 blades and was not happy with the blood trails on either one.first one was a heart shot lost blood 15 yds in but she only went another 25 yds.that was an abowyer javelina lite with a hundred grain insert total weight of arrow 712 grains out of a 56 lbs bw pma 2.2nd one was double lung and sliced the heart and had a low exit hole was magnus 2 blase 175 grains total on a caboron express heritage 350 with a 25 grain screw in adaptor total arrow weight 610 grains both heads were scary sharp.think ill be trading the abowyers for some magnus snuffers or ww bhs
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Post by: rolltidehunter on November 02, 2010, 03:15:00 PM
great job steve
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Post by: stevewills on November 02, 2010, 04:42:00 PM
someone give me some options on bhs
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Post by: steadman on November 02, 2010, 04:44:00 PM
Steve, I used the RFA Phoenix this year, but have used ww or snuffers with great results as well.
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Post by: two4hooking on November 02, 2010, 04:48:00 PM
4 blade eclipse!  Super tough!
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Post by: Jeff Strubberg on November 02, 2010, 04:59:00 PM
Down in 25 yards is amazing.  Who needs a blood trail?   ;)

Having said that, you've got more than enough giddyup in that setup to shoot a bigger head.

Congrats on the doe!
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Post by: bentpole on November 02, 2010, 05:02:00 PM
Very Nice!   :thumbsup:    :archer:    :archer2:
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Post by: donnyjack on November 02, 2010, 05:03:00 PM
I like a four blade 125 gr. vented magnus with a 75 gr. steel insert.  This give me a 200 gr. head on my 2018 shafts for a total arrow weight of 600gr.  I hunted with Bear Razorheads for years and killed a lot of stuff and these are close to them.

DJ
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Post by: Wannabe1 on November 02, 2010, 05:04:00 PM
Great story and deer! Congrats and thanks for sharing.   :thumbsup:    :clapper:
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Post by: 30coupe on November 02, 2010, 05:44:00 PM
I don't mean to be negative, but maybe you need to work on your sharpening. A sharp two blade should make them bleed like crazy from the hits you described. I've had poor blood trails from high lung hits even with sharp broadheads, but with the hits you described there should have been lots of blood.
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Post by: ron w on November 02, 2010, 07:09:00 PM
When they only go 50 yards or less whats the problem with your broadheads, they sound they work just fine.
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Post by: stevewills on November 02, 2010, 07:10:00 PM
they are and were scapal sharp.trust me my fingers are proof
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Post by: Chris Surtees on November 03, 2010, 06:30:00 AM
:thumbsup:    :thumbsup:    :clapper:

Not sure what to tell about you broadheads but they seem to be working out quite well for ya...anyway if you are set on trying a multi-blade take a look at the VPA's...they have done quite well for me so far this year.

C
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Post by: Don Stokes on November 03, 2010, 07:23:00 AM
Snuffer 160. Guaranteed blood trails.
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Post by: Benner on November 03, 2010, 07:47:00 AM
I just shot a doe with a Abowyer Brown Bear, it was one of the best blood trails I've ever had. I used the ABS sharpening system. It really works well.
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Post by: dino on November 03, 2010, 08:44:00 AM
Just my 2cents but I talked to my dad last night who shot a doe up in Michigan yesterday morning and he used a magnum I 4 blade which is a huge head.  Shot her right threw the center if the heart she ran about 150 yards with no blood trail. Her chest was full of blood and where she dropped. Sometimes those things happen regardless of head.   Congrats on deer  Nice doe!!  And good shooting. Dino
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Post by: razorsharptokill on November 24, 2010, 02:45:00 PM
With  a heart shot I think the blood pressure drops so quickly that less blood gets pumped out. My 8 pt was hit high behind the right shoulder blade and hit the opposite ebow upon exit. Blood was pouring from the entrance wound within 10 feet.

One would think that this would be optimum for pouring blood out of the exit wound. I was using a 160 grain Snuffer that was very sharp. The rear of the heart was sliced open, right lung pretty much bicected. After 40 yards... no blood! I was astonished! The holes were huge!!!

It appears that the different layers of tissue on the exit hole were not lining up except at certain points in the deer's stride.

He went about 125 yards before piling up.
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Post by: GingivitisKahn on November 24, 2010, 03:16:00 PM
Congrats!

  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Joe Subler on November 24, 2010, 05:01:00 PM
You might try the Simmons heads.  Great blood trails from those heads!!

Cheers,
Joe
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Post by: Bjorn on November 24, 2010, 05:14:00 PM
I would not be making changes with your results.
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Post by: LCH on November 24, 2010, 08:19:00 PM
Come on and try some Simmons heads. You won't be sorry.LCH
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Post by: Robertfishes on November 24, 2010, 11:20:00 PM
lots of great BH's out there..with your arrow weight I see no reason why you couldn't use a 3 or 4 blade head. I have been using Razorcaps for the last 4 or 5 years, maybe not the best but they work for me. I would have no problem using Magnus Stingers, Woodsman Elites or Snuffers if I didn't have a bunch of the Razorcaps..plenty of great choices,Magnus has a great warranty. The local bow shop carries the choices I listed above.. Before using Razorcaps I took over 50 deer and hogs with Thunderhead Broadheads,they work for me and I didn't have to sharpen them..just replace the blades..I used Zwicky and Bear Razor Heads along the way too, sharp 2 blade BH's kill but I like the 3 blade hole.
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Post by: Fletcher on November 25, 2010, 10:30:00 AM
Just looked at the pic and the exit looked to be thru the front leg muscle.  I've hit three deer with very sharp WW's and a wide 2 blade like that.  They went down quick but left little/no blood.  They don't seem to bleed well thru the muscle no matter the b'head.
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Post by: LookMomNoSights on November 25, 2010, 10:34:00 AM
Great job!
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Post by: Molson on November 25, 2010, 12:07:00 PM
Good shooting!  Broadheads are really about what you like.  I've been a bit of a broadhead junkie over the years and have shot deer with most of the traditional choices.  They all work. My favorites are the Griz 190 and Snuffer 160. Anymore I just use the Griz 190. I've never lost a deer with either.  Both have given me really good blood trails and not so good blood trails. Nothing is magic.  

I would not consider your result bad.  Heart shots and short recoveries are a good thing.  Deer just don't put much blood on the ground when they die that fast. But if you're not happy with your broadheads for whatever reason then just try something else.  They're all good and enjoying your gear is an important part of trad hunting.
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Post by: GREATBROWNKNOCKEMDOWN on November 25, 2010, 03:41:00 PM
When i shot a compound i used the 2 blade screw in magnus heads, talked to the owner of magnus about the lack of blood , he said they don't leave alot of blood, like a 3 blade would ,but the deer won't go far either. I'm using  magnus 3 blade Snuffers now on my wood arrows.
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Post by: Fritz on November 25, 2010, 06:29:00 PM
Nice shot! Congrats! Can't go wrong with a WW or a big Snuffer.
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Post by: Bowhunter4life on November 25, 2010, 07:49:00 PM
:thumbsup:  Way to go!!! Congrats!!!  :thumbsup:    :clapper:    :clapper:
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Post by: Bowhunter4life on November 25, 2010, 07:55:00 PM
Oh, and you can't go wrong with a WW or Snuffer, but maybe try some of the wider 2-blades.  I've had no trouble tracking a deer shot with a Magnus 1 at 1 1/2" wide.  They usually drop in sight though...

Haven't had a chance to shoot one with my Silver Flame DS @ 1 7/8" wide or my Wide Pearson Deadheads @ 1 5/8" wide, but I'd be willing to bet they would lay the trail down also... Can also think about the Centaur heads, either one...
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Post by: Overspined on November 25, 2010, 08:51:00 PM
my griz heads are not wide at all, but so damn sharp that despite being 2 blade, I get great blood trails, even with hits that are not perfectly placed. I use a wet stone wheel and then leather strop and they get scary sharp. I do reduce the angle as well. I used to get only marginal blood trails with them until I copied the technique Ashby suggested in reducing the cutting angle and getting them more than just "file" sharp. I figure I have shot 10 deer with them in the past 3 years.