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Title: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: lpcjon2 on November 01, 2010, 11:57:00 AM
Went to one of my stands that is about 200yrds from a huge sand wash and found these track with deer tracks running ahead of them.Looks like they were chasing down some deer.What do you think they may weigh.They are from two sets of tracks. I used a 125gr Snuffer as a reference.

Track -1
 (http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv19/lpcjon2/coyote2.jpg)

Track -2
 (http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv19/lpcjon2/coyotetrack.jpg)

and I found this 20yrds away today
(http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv19/lpcjon2/scat-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: mcgroundstalker on November 01, 2010, 12:01:00 PM
Just glad (they) weren't chasing me!  :scared:

... mike ...
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: on November 01, 2010, 12:39:00 PM
Are the claws showing?  Big puppy?  100 pounds.
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: Mudd on November 01, 2010, 12:45:00 PM
It's Ole 3 toes!! Yikes!!!!

Better put two arrows on your string..lol

Seriously what is it a track of in your opinion?

God bless,Mudd
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: lpcjon2 on November 01, 2010, 01:01:00 PM
Mudd,It's a coyote and they are in numbers in this area I hunt.From the yelping and howling at night the pack has to be at least 15-20 strong.They say that yotes in South Jersey are 35-40 lb I think he may go way over that mark.
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: maineac on November 01, 2010, 06:59:00 PM
Don't discount a domestic dog.  I've followed the tracks of a golden retriever I watched walk through the wood, until it hit a deer track.
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: KSdan on November 01, 2010, 07:00:00 PM
Why not dogs?
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: OkKeith on November 01, 2010, 07:18:00 PM
I would say it's a domestic or feral dog. Too round to be a coyote track. Coyote tracks are 1/3 longer than they are wide and rarely show webbing between the toes.

Big Lab, Swamp Collie or something, I'd say.

OkKeith
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: Bjorn on November 01, 2010, 07:22:00 PM
It is not that easy to ID from those pics but the tracks look a bit 'round' to be coyote. JMHO
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: BFinegan on November 01, 2010, 07:25:00 PM
Don't know what it is, but coyotes always sound like a bunch more than whats really there. Not saying you don't have a lot of them but a few can sound like a lot.
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: ishoot4thrills on November 01, 2010, 08:32:00 PM
Looks like a dog track to me as well.
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: beetlebailey1977 on November 01, 2010, 08:49:00 PM
Thats a dog track...coyotes toes are closer together.
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: jhg on November 01, 2010, 08:49:00 PM
Dog for sure. Round overall print. Wolf/coyote elongated with longer center toes. Oval overall shape.

Joshua
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: FAV 52 on November 01, 2010, 08:52:00 PM
Guys I'm not sure what it is but i can tell you that a coyotes front foot is round and its hind foot is oval and smaller than the front.
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: David Yukon on November 01, 2010, 09:03:00 PM
I have to agree with the others on dog track!!
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: njloco on November 01, 2010, 10:43:00 PM
lpcjon2, we do have the largest of the coyotes, run 30lbs. to 50 lbs. from what I've heard. My two friends saw what they thought were two big dogs on the property and it turned out they were yotes. We hunted by the race track in Englishtown.
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: joe ashton on November 01, 2010, 11:07:00 PM
yup  dog track..
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: Airborne on November 01, 2010, 11:49:00 PM
Nice big track--I shot a Utah coyote that tipped the scale at 34lbs--my biggest so far--usually they are around 25lbs
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: Thumper Dunker on November 02, 2010, 01:04:00 AM
Looks more like dog tracks than coyote. But your coyotes are not realy real coyotes. Wolf hybrids type things. Go call them in and poke them. Maybe 30-45 lbs. thier paws will spread out in mud or snow. Still big. good pictures.
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: lpcjon2 on November 02, 2010, 12:04:00 PM
It may be a dog I don,t know it's running deer pretty hard at night.I go by every morning after a night hunt to check. I will try to get some more pics,can't do a trail camera it would be gone (thieves).Thanks for all the input.Tim
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: 1kwikstik on November 02, 2010, 05:50:00 PM
A coyote will leave 2 different sized tracks- their back feet are smaller than their front feet, not a lot, but noticeable.
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: Guru on November 02, 2010, 06:07:00 PM
Looks way too big to me to be a coyote...and I've seen, skinned and mounted some big coyotes....but anything is possible.

As for not having "real coyotes"...we absolutely do have real coyotes! Their called Eastern Coyotes for a reason.
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: Thumper Dunker on November 02, 2010, 10:27:00 PM
What I ment was yours are larger than ours.  :)
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: mwosborn on November 02, 2010, 10:48:00 PM
Looks like a dog to me.
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: jhg on November 02, 2010, 10:50:00 PM
A dogs hind paws are smaller than the fronts too. Just go over and take a look at your dog thats probably laying on the couch...

I've never seen a round coyote track personally. They all showed the two center toes being longer thus elongating the print. Running or loping. Don't know if I have ever seen a coyote actually walking along. Hunting yes but not strolling like he was taking in the air.
But I have not seen them all.

Joshua
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: Paul WA on November 03, 2010, 02:51:00 PM
Never seen or heard of a coyote that big, I would say a dog...PR
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: Friend on November 03, 2010, 06:46:00 PM
One thing we know for sure is that it isn't an elephant track.
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: lpcjon2 on November 12, 2010, 12:52:00 PM
I added a pic of some scat I found 20 yrd away from the location I found the track.
(http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv19/lpcjon2/scat-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: Don Stokes on November 12, 2010, 02:06:00 PM
Glad I already finished lunch...
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: doeboy on November 12, 2010, 02:41:00 PM
njloco,

30 # dogs are big, a 40# dog is worthy to tell your family and friends, a 50# you will be written up in Fur,Fish and Game!

Most people think they are much bigger till they put them onthe scale, kind of like a 150# doe!

Just sayin.... Doeboy
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: Looper on November 12, 2010, 04:46:00 PM
I'd say it's a dog track, too. The scat is probably dog, too.  My neighbor's dog leaves coyote-looking scat.  They don't feed him much and he supplements his diet with anything he can catch.
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: lpcjon2 on November 12, 2010, 07:22:00 PM
Looper the scat was full of hair that looked like deer hair to me.
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: Shedrock on November 12, 2010, 08:37:00 PM
Who says the scat was left by the dog that made the tracks? I am a fed coyote trapper. The scat looks like coyote, and old, by the color. The track is dog.

It is legal here to shoot dogs running wildlife. How about where you are? That dog needs to go.
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: lpcjon2 on November 12, 2010, 08:47:00 PM
Shedrock Im not sure what the dog law is in NJ. I did find some fresher stuff also,Could a domestic dog that is wild run with the yotes?
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: Shedrock on November 12, 2010, 08:50:00 PM
They may run with the coyotes there, but here, the coyotes kill the dogs.
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Post by: Cootling on November 12, 2010, 09:02:00 PM
I would reserve judgement on the dog... tracks in the same place don't necessarily suggest one creature was chasing the other, much less that it posed a serious threat.
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: lpcjon2 on November 12, 2010, 09:06:00 PM
Not to worry I wont pass any judgment on any K-9 unless it gives me a reason to. This is not a thread about that and I don't want it to be one.
Title: Re: Check out this Track! (scat added)
Post by: Shedrock on November 12, 2010, 09:10:00 PM
I'm just saying if you see the dog chasing game here, collar or not, you can shoot it.

I just saw a german shepard running the heck out of some deer here, but they were long gone before I could get to them.

Our deer are getting into wintering stages, and don't need some dog wearing them down. Sorry, but I will shoot the dog if possable.