For deer which do you prefer an arrow with extreme head weight(250gr + ) up front or a moderate weight(125-160gr). :coffee:
I have been using 250 grain heads on my goldtips for well over 10 years now. Always get good results.
I only shoot wood so too much upfront and I run out of spine. 175 gn is tops for me.
I'm a 100-125 grain fan. However, with the 100 grain head I use a 50 grain plus 25 grain brass insert so this makes the 100 grainer a 175. I'll probably change this next year so more weight is in blades rather than the insert -- same Helix broadhead but probably a 150 grain+. The heavier model is a bit thicker blade and wider too.
If you're just talkin' about total weight up front including the insert, I'm a fan of FOC. I like over 200 grains up to around 250 total weight up front.
I try and stay with basic 125's. With the adaptor they make either a 145 or 160 depending. My "Heavy" arrows use the steel 125 adaptor. That one puts me at 250+
These fly great out of my BW's. In fact I can change arrows between at least two bows, a recurve and a LB, pulling 5 lbs difference and not see much difference. Actually, these arrows weigh in (total weight) 10.6 gr/lb of draw at 18.76 gr/inch on the long bow and 9.42 gr/lb at 14.62 gr/inch. These are AD shafts. Light compared to what a lot of folks are shooting. The have both passed through deer at 20 yds.
175 up front.
For deer I shoot wood and use 125 grain Grizzlies or Magnus.
Target for 300 to 400 up front.
For my 42# bow, I prefer a 200 grain point tip weight and for my 37# bow, I prefer a 180 grain point tip weight.
Wood with 160 grain snuffers
200 flies best for me.
100grn. brass insert, 125 grn. adapter, 145 grn STOS, now wheres my calculator?
160-175 on wood and 250-275 0n carbons.
aluminum arrows and 125gr. snuffers
extreme up front... 200gr minimuim...
I don't care really much for deer about arrow weight on front,but I use anyway a 550-650 grs arrow with 250 up front.Little bit heavier for elk and boar.
I've been shooting unweighted Beman ICS carbons and 125-grain heads for about ten years now. Pass throughs haven't been a problem, even on my bull moose.
Moderate, heavy shafts w/ 125 grain heads is my recipe.
150-170
Wood, 125. GT 55/75, 100 grain brass + 200gr. bh. GT 35/55, regular inserts and 175.
I like a high FOC and shoot for a total weight of 12 gr. per lb. of bow weight. This gives me a quiet arrow, fairly fast, with alot of penetration. I use a 250 gr. BH, and inserts of 50 to 100 gr. up front, according to the bow weight I am shooting. R.W.
I shoot 29" GT3555 total wt. 481 gr. (210gr. up front) 19.8 FOC - from my 66" 52#@28" longbow.
I shoot 29.25" GT3555 total wt. 413 gr. (140gr. up front) 14.6 FOC - from my 52" 46#@28" recurve.
(I use 125gr. field tips and broadheads on both and add screw-in weights for the longbow.)
I'm trying to keep my setups at about 13 grains per pound and FOC as high as I can get it.Most of them are a hair over 700 grains.
Been killing animals with 175 grain heads since the mid 80s.(135 grain Zwickey Delta 4 blades on 42 grain adapters plus the weight of the glue - Aprox 175 grains) From bunny's to bison with that weight.....never seen a reason or need to change. From 2 pounds to 2000 they work for me.
About 11-12 grains per pound for me.Arrows are from 575 to 650 grains finished out typically.
Been shooting CX Heritage 250s with 200 to 250 grains up front cut to 31 inches for over a year for my hunting arrows
always 175 up front no matter what the arrow.
145-150 total arrow wt:510grns
125-160 with total arrow weight around 550 - 650 grains for a 50-55 lb bow .
QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:
Been killing animals with 175 brain heads since the mid 80s
Terry those are some smart arrows ... :laughing:
Here's my newest set up (430gr up front total)
Toelke Whip 2pc T/D 62" and 59# @ 29"
Victory V-Force HV .300 shafts
Bohning signature Double nocks
3 - 3" A&A Style Fletch
100gr brass insert
205-207gr (after sharpening) Grizzly El Grande's RW with 125gr steel BH Adapt. (330-332gr total weight)
29 7/8" throat to Back of Point
~652gr +/-2gr total arrow weight
33.1% FOC
3-fingers under with a tab.
I've been using more up front on woodies lately. It worked well this year for me with a pass through on a moose. 150 grain phoenix 3 blades with 45 grains internally footed= 195 grain head. Makes the wood arrows heavier too. 680 grains out of 62# longbow. Quiet and hits like a train.
Sorry Chops....that's what I get for trying to post from my cell phone. :banghead:
And I also noticed his thread title and thread question were different. Just add this to my 1st response....
585-630 grains from 60-70# bows seems to be a great all around weight for anything I've shot at. If I only hunted whitetails exclusively....I would shoot around 500 grains all the time.
125 up front on 2016 legacy shafts cut to 28" and shooting of a fox royalcrown longbow man they are good. or axis 500 same length same head same result.
I'm liking the lightest commonly used wood I can find with the heaviest glue on point I can find relatively cheap.
Now my combo is spruce and 190 Grizz.
ends up about 540 grain out of a 43# @28" bow.
GT 35/55 shafts with a 175 grain broadhead.
I shoot wood arrows. So, I find that with 145-160gr heads on Surewood Shafts tune up really nicely. Total weight is about 585-600grs. I like the tradgetory and the flight.
I fall between the two. I prefer 175-200 grains upfront with a total arrow weight of 450-500 grains. 53# @ 26"
I have wood with 125 snuffer's at a total weight of 596 -605gr I have 160gr heads also.
Extreme...even up to 375 grains (200 Griz, 75 steel BH adaptor, 100 gr. brass insert) up front for 28% EFoC, total arrow weight of 625 to 675 grains. Not that you need that for deer, but I like exit holes and abundant blood trails. This type of arrow setup provides me with a lot of confidence. My arrow trajectory is NOT greatly compromised with this setup. I would choose to error on the side of "too much penetration". For me, there is no cost, just benefit. Come November, I like to be setup to shoot diagonally thru a 200# plus Wisconsin white-tail buck, should that be the shot angle.
Kris
125 grain head with 50 grain brass insert.
aluminum shafts... 550 to 650 total... 160 to 190 total point weight... never a problem, no need to change.
I like around 175 to 225 and currently shoot 200's on a 29 1/2" Heritage 150 for an arrow weight of 525. I've had pass thrus on elk with that weight.
Been shooting 2213 shafts 30" long with 5" full helical feathers with 100 or 125 grain magnus two blade with inserts for 20 some years now. All bows in the 63 to 87 pound range. Used to shoot 2317's when i shot 4 bladed broadheads at 87 pounds. But only for elk when i wanted more cutting inches of broad head. What arrow you use depends on how fast your bow is and how clean your release is. Tabs are faster than gloves. The harder the tab the cleaner the release. The better your form the cleaner the release.
Kip
Magnus Snuffers 160grn for right Now.. I lov them points... I shoot woodies
585 gr. at the present time. 29" Beman 400 carbon with a 200 gr. broadhead with a 100 gr. brass adapter behind it. 4x4" 90 degree r.w. fletch. 52-54#@28" recurves. Mike