Anybody use the primos bleat-can.If so what are the results?Does it work?What time of the season
works best early or late?
I have both a fawn bleat and a doe in Estrus bleat. I have used both. Once called a deer to me, but it came in from behind me and saw me turn my head and took off. thinking it was a buck, but not sure. I have also used the fawn bleat and had it work calling in deer, even when my son has all ready shot one with a firearm and had it laying on the ground. The others in the group returned when the can was used from afar. Will watch this intently to see what others ecperiences are.
i have called in does many times bro, just don't over use it. i use it when i can see deer a ways off and watch thier reaction.
I use the estrus can and had good luck with it,turn it quick for a short bleat,the long bleat would be a distress call
I love the "Can"! I have called in bucks from as early as the 1st week in Oct., all the way up in to Dec.
I was out tonight and had a young buck about 25 yards from me just to thick to take a clean shot and when he turned to walk the other way I hit the can and he kept on going didnt want anything to do with it.
Yeah I use the can and it works. I have called bucks and does in.
The can works, but not any better than any other calls....bleating itself just plain old works. I just use my voice.
I wouldn't leave the house without mine. I don't usually use it unless I see a buck and he's not coming my way. But that goes for a grunt tube also. Why have a buck looking for you if his natural movement was in your direction in the first place.
GLENN
Mine hasnt worked yet. I must be doing something wrong. It is a different brand though.
So I guess that means, if you can make a grunt noise naturally with your own mouth, don't do it to stop a buck moving by ?
If you can't make a turkey call naturally with your mouth, don't hunt turkey ?
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I like the can, I called in a nice buck in Maine a couple of years ago, took me two weeks to get him, I guess I wasn't playing fair.
I've useed it with success on bucks that were going in the other direction. Once they start your way, lay off of it.
I know guys who use it every 15 or 20 min to draw bucks in. They hunt in western Oklahoma where the country is wide open and sound carries a little better than in the big timber bottomlands where I hunt.
OkKeith
Seriously mamba?
I've used the can here for muleys with no luck. Mabey they (muleys) don't make as much noise :dunno:
I called in three different bucks in a day and a half last season. Ended up killing the third buck.
a neat lil trick I like to use sometimes is hold the bottom of the can (the side with one hole) to my mouth and an easy blow to produce a soft lil bleat... Many deer will hear it and tend to relax or feed on over thinking all is well... This seems to work better on does as I feel that the estrous bleat scares the crap out of most does... They want to be far away from a hot doe... Buy to me it sounds as a young yearling who wandered off from mama.. I think it works better that way...
However, I only get about one season out of can that way...
The can has been effective for me throughout the season. There have been at least three seasons I have canned in over 10 bucks. Rattling effectiveness has been on and off. Some years I've rattled in up to 5-7 bucks then others nothing. I have yet to rattle in a big deer. Where as the can has yielded a few and I have been rattling 20 years longer than I have been using the can. A nice advantage of the can is that sometimes deer are spooked for variuos reasons when using a grunt call and/or horns. The deer which choose to ignore the can have just done that and not spooked. Some of the same bucks were actually canned in later up in the day.
Note: When I claim canned or rattled in I am talking 25 yards or less.
I think the can is very effective! I had my best buck come running in on a string not 45 seconds after I used the can. So it can definately work in the right situation.
The devil in the detail is finding that right situation.
If the truth were told I've probably used the can over a 200 times in the field and only had three or four encounters that I felt like were directly related to the calling. The trick is that those 4 encounters ended up with me killing three nice bucks so it was definately worth it. I can't speak to any evidence of them spooking deer. Just like grunting they often don't come running over if they are moving away from your position and you try to use it to turn them back.
Here are the situations where I think they can help.
I had a doe run up behind my stand in obvious chase mode. The buck was not within sight. She turn before ever coming within shooting range and left in a hurry. I started calling with the can as soon as she left and the buck just happened to come along about 30 seconds later. He heard the can and came directly to my stand looking for the doe he had just been chasing. Dead buck!
Another time it worked was last fall after I had done a series of calls on the can. I had a doe slowly filter out of the woods with a buck calmly following her in a tending fashion. I think she wasn't quite ready or was already bred but just uncomfortable having the buck around. She wasn't running to escape the buck but just came to the sound of another deer. In doing so lead him right by my stand. :saywhat:
Chris
Probably the best call invented yet in my opinion. I can't count the number of deer I've brought right in with mine. You "can" educate deer by over using them but they work great.
I've used it to call in some very good bucks. The small Primos can you can blow in the hole and make the bleat louder and longer. Can't get the big can to work like that.
QuoteOriginally posted by Cyclic-Rivers:
Mine hasnt worked yet. I must be doing something wrong. It is a different brand though.
Same here though I have the primos. I have used it every way I can think of and I cannot say it ever worked.
Now a grunt tube, it is a rock star. But I have called in just as many deer with grunting with voice as a grunt tube.
So Grunting big + The can, no luck.
I know 2 guys that swear by the Quaker boy can
I have used the can, it works about as well as a grunt tube, I have had it work and I have had deer ignore it. I think its depends on the mood they are in.
PS. For those that have nothing positive to add perhaps you should stay silent.
Scott
I have called numerous 1 1/2 year old bucks in with the can, little dummies with hormones raging.
I have heard the big boys coming in but if they don't see a doe they hang up and never show themselves.
One year I called in a button head with the can who I used as a decoy because he wouldn't leave even after he saw me. His presence was enough for a real whopper to come investigate but he came in behind a cane thicket to 20 yds and I never got a shot before he smelled a rat.
Coyotes have come to the can as well for me so get ready for anything.
QuoteOriginally posted by A.S.:
I love the "Can"! I have called in bucks from as early as the 1st week in Oct., all the way up in to Dec.
What Allen said. I also like to use it to calm wary deer. With that said, I don't like to use any particular call every time I hunt. I think deer can learn and relate it to a hunter if over used.
As for mambashooters reply.
I have a friend who can make any deer or turkey calling sound with his mouth and sound better than any commercial call on the market. Another friend can mouth call like a whole flock of feeding geese, absolutely incredible.
I am sure our primitive ancestors were adept at calling with anything they had at their disposal so calling in the pursuit of game is a traditional art and has been through the ages.
QuoteOriginally posted by mambashooter:
I have harvested many deer and have never used any type device to call them in. If you are where they are..they will eventually be there...if you have planned ahead..checking scrapes, bedding areas, areas where they eat and drink.Funny how so many claim to be traditional hunters..maybe with the bow you use and that is about it. :archer2:
Just because soemone uses a manufactured call doesnt mean they are not a traditional hunter. Native americans used calls all the time and often were made by other people. I'm willing to bet you wear clothing that you didnt make and wasnt available back in the 20's. What kind of foot wear have you used in the past?
This isnt an arguement about who is more of a traditionalist, it sounds like you have every one beat in that category, it is a question of who has used "the can" with success.
QuoteOriginally posted by lt-m-grow:
QuoteOriginally posted by Cyclic-Rivers:
Mine hasnt worked yet. I must be doing something wrong. It is a different brand though.
Same here though I have the primos. I have used it every way I can think of and I cannot say it ever worked.
Now a grunt tube, it is a rock star. But I have called in just as many deer with grunting with voice as a grunt tube.
So Grunting big + The can, no luck. [/b]
Me Too. I have called in many bucks with verbal grunts however, my throat doesnt always cooperate with me.
You real Trad guys, what broad heads do you use ?
What is your bow string made of ?
What are your nocks made off ?
What glue did you use on your feathers, nocks, broad heads, rests, riser, ?
What type of jig do you use, or do you tie your feathers on ?
Speaking of feathers, how do you cut them to the shape you want, Oh I'm sure by hand of course, but we would still like to know.
Where do you get all of your archery stuff from, or do you make it all ?
Do you drive to your hunting ground or ride a horse or just walk ? Oh if you do walk, I'm sure it's always in moccasins, that you made yourself ?
How do you get your kill back to your tent that you live in ?
I mean, inquiring minds want to know, because you are our heroes
Like many have said, the can works in some cases... not so much in others.
Just like anything else, moderation is the key.
For big bucks, it really is my last resort I guess. After grunting. I've never tried a snort-wheeze (always afraid I would snot all over myself).
It's just a tool like anything else.
OkKeith
You don't want to over-call with it. A short bleat is good. Repeated bleats one after the other can also be an alert/alarm call.
Three can sizes as I remember, I have the smallest one and the only thing it has ever called in was a fawn. I think right after she got kicked away from momma. I still have hopes and try it when I'm desperate.
Exactly Kenneth, You know how I feel.
Now iF I can lose this uncontrolable cough and get off the can, I can go and use the can and hopefuly share some of the others success.
They work. But as stated, overuse can dull the local deer senses and reverse the desired effect.
They were selling them at the local Caseys. I heard about it and went to get one. It semms the area college and high school kids thought they were the next really nifty thing and bought them all. You would have thought we would get an overpopulation of deer in town by all of calling that was going on everywhere. They should come with a holster or a strap, they don't ride in your pocket very well. Left maaaa left maaaa left maaaa. Almost as bad as my turkey call when I am walking cluck putt cluck putt
The in my area don't respond well to calling with that said I have used the can and brought some deer in. The only other call is and old grunt tube I found at a yard sale.
I killed a big 11 pt. 3 years ago. When I saw him he was walking straight away from me at about 50 yards. I thought what have I got to lose and bleated one time with the can. Instantly he stopped and listened. I did it again and he turned and started walking straight to me like he was on a string. He turned and stopped at 10 yards and I killed him. Other times I have used it in the same type situations and they acted like they could care less. Have had more success with just a grunt call. The one time it worked was Nov. 10.
Why not hunt a high fence place and you wouldn't have to buy a call.... :laughing:
trid lightly blowing in to the can this morning and it sounds GREAT, best fawn bleat other then the real thing, great tip i picked up from this post THANK YOU.
Mamba you are so far out of line you do not add a thing to help this post. soory if the rest of us are not on your super human level!
Paul,
If you don't have anything constructive to add regarding the topic of this thread, the Bleat-can, show some respect to the other members of the forum that are and shut up. If you feel so strongly about your self declared definition of what is "traditional hunting" start your own thread and discuss that topic there. That way those of us who do not want to hear your holier then thou attitude can ignore it....as you might consider doing with this topic.
Well said Walt!
I have had success all season long with it too. My experience has been much like A.S. I usually tip it two to three times, accompanied with some grunts. I will then wait 45 min to an hour before I do it again.
Couldn't have said it better myself, Walt. No place for elitist attitudes here!
I have been using the can call for several years. I use to say that it did not work......That is until it did. I never leave home without it now.
I arrowed a buck last year with the help of the can.
I just finished a rattling sequence, I looked out in the field I was hunting beside and there stood a buck. I quickly stood up and hit the can call. He came right inside the woods and walked right by my stand.
Two years before that I saw a BIG buck walk up a hill 75 yards from me. I hit the can, and about 10 min later he was standing behind me blowing. The sucker circled me and busted me, but I really believe he was looking for the doe I was mimicking.
I don't think this is a magic call, I do know it will work if you have a hot buck looking for a doe.
Also want to say, I think the can is even more effective if you use it in combination with rattling and grunting.
O.K., I played unfair this afternoon and used the can, brought in 3 bucks. The biggest was a small 6 pt. I wasn't interested in shooting them as I am hunting a monster buck in the same area. I can't wait to play unfair with him. Used the doe in heat call but only let it short call, in other words I cut it off before the complete cycle of the can.
honestly, I have had more success with my combo call. I find that a combination of calls works better than just the one bleater. Other than my heavy coat, I don't have a pocket that they fit in very well. They need a belt pouch or something for when not wearing a coat with big pockets. After playing the can for awhile I found that I can duplicate the sound just as effectively with my voice and it is one less thing to carry.
QuoteOriginally posted by mambashooter:
I have harvested many deer and have never used any type device to call them in. If you are where they are..they will eventually be there...if you have planned ahead..checking scrapes, bedding areas, areas where they eat and drink.Funny how so many claim to be traditional hunters..maybe with the bow you use and that is about it. :archer2:
So I assume you use a stone knife and wear a buckskin loin cloth - right? When you cook your deer that you have planned for, I imagine the fire is one you made with a bow drill or a fire plow or something - correct?
But enough feeding the troll.
To the topic, I've not yet had a can work for me but in fairness I think I first tried one just last season. Need to try again - forgot I had it. Heh.
Thank you Walt! Now 3feather, did you get one and try it yet? I would love to know if it worked for you. Good luck!
Bleat cans work great. Nothing I can really add except that I feel the Quaker Boy can is superior to the Primos can. I had a Quaker Boy that lasted me about 7 seasons then my youngest found a way to break it. Since I can't seem to find another Quaker Boy I picked up the Primos , but have been buying a new one every season since because it wears out and starts to stick.
If anyone could tell me where I can get the Quaker Boy I'd sure appreciate it.
I have had lots of luck with it in rut. When I see a buck moving in the distance, I use it to turn him my way.
Have had good luck just before rut starts as well. You get the bucks that just can't wait. The are so ready they seem to charge right in, even with no doe in sight.
I think the can call works pretty well. I also have used it as something to listen to while I am trying to learn to make a bleat call just using my vocal cords. This project may take a while, so far my vocal talent is insufficient. Until I master the vocal cord bleat, the can is in my pack whenever I go to the woods.