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Title: Are they all loud?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 20, 2010, 05:19:00 PM
I have always been a long bow guy, but aquired a Robertson Fatal Styk, sweet bow! I just got it today and have shot it alot already. My question is are all recurves "loud"? It has a buzz after every shot. My arrows are around 9.5 gr per pound and I messed with the brace ht both ways, no luck. Am I missing the obvious or have long bows spoiled me over the years? Thanks all
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: Looper on October 20, 2010, 05:29:00 PM
They're definitely louder. You don't want it buzzing, though. A change in strings, some pads under the limb tips (where the string hits the limbs), and some silencers on the string should quiet it down.

If that's not enough, the surest way is to shoot a heavier arrow.
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 20, 2010, 05:33:00 PM
It has Musk Ox silencers on it already. I will try the pad under the string and have a listen. Heavier arrows wont be too bad either, that sucker has power to spare....wow...if it weren't for the buzzing it wouldnt have any noticable noise.
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: kill shot on October 20, 2010, 05:35:00 PM
looper is right, then again a recurve is easier for me to shoot.
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: mambashooter on October 20, 2010, 05:37:00 PM
But I like a recurve..  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: JRY309 on October 20, 2010, 05:38:00 PM
Recurve are usally louder then a longbow.I like to use Bow Hush and Hush puppies on recurves I've had.I had them on a BW recurve and I would get comments on how quiet it was.And I find that different type of FF type strings can sound different.I have bows that are quieter with 450+ then with D97,and some are quieter with 8125.
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: kill shot on October 20, 2010, 05:38:00 PM
yes, the heavier arrows would be a big help. Also try 4 silencers on the string, 2 on top and 2 on the bottom.
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 20, 2010, 05:39:00 PM
The string is FF, but I cant tell you the material. Its not a skinny string.
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: jrstegner on October 20, 2010, 05:42:00 PM
Put some limbsavers on the limbs per instructions on the package and I would bet your problem with the buzzing will be solved. Your longbows will still be quieter.
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: Rick Butler on October 20, 2010, 05:42:00 PM
I've always had "issues" with my Widow recurves and noise.  I just recently tried a 450+ skinny string on my PCH and am amazed at how much quieter it is.
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: cacciatore on October 20, 2010, 05:47:00 PM
I own several of Dick's recurves and they are great bows and very quiet to me.maybe you have a too stiff arrow,this is a kind of problem that arise when a too stiff arrow hits the side window.Otherwise you can try those skinny string that really make the difference.
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: Sixby on October 20, 2010, 06:25:00 PM
Probably need to adjust your brace height a bit.
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 20, 2010, 06:50:00 PM
Sounds like I need a skinny string first. Thanks for the input all!
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: WESTBROOK on October 20, 2010, 08:46:00 PM
Yup, if its the original string its probably a fat one. They put like 18 strand FF on their bows for some reason.

Eric
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: beetlebailey1977 on October 20, 2010, 09:12:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by looper:
They're definitely louder. You don't want it buzzing, though. A change in strings, some pads under the limb tips (where the string hits the limbs), and some silencers on the string should quiet it down.

If that's not enough, the surest way is to shoot a heavier arrow.
Thats the ticket
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: Friend on October 20, 2010, 09:58:00 PM
Sure, most recurves can be tamed considerably. Most likely not as quiet as your LB. If you put in as much effort in quietng your LB, then your curve will remain noticeably louder.
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: MnFn on October 20, 2010, 10:04:00 PM
Sixby may be right on the money. I'd try shortening the string a bit first b4 buying a new string.
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: mrpenguin on October 20, 2010, 10:07:00 PM
Try shooting the Astro Flight string and using a wooden arrow... that will quiet it down  :)
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: MCNSC on October 20, 2010, 10:07:00 PM
If you have antler burr knobs on it they may be the problem. Had a bow that developed a buzz and discovered the burr was loose on the screw. Epoxy had come loose. Pulled the burr off and re-epoxied it noise went away. I have a Fatel styk also and no buzz.
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: reinmb on October 20, 2010, 10:30:00 PM
good luck   let us know what fixes it
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 21, 2010, 07:25:00 AM
I tried woodys already, no luck. I ended up adding 100 grain tubes to the arrows I am using, it gave me 610 grains total. Thats heavy enough for me. It didnt make much difference so I am going to try a few of the suggestions I read here, string first. Thanks eveybody!
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: ripforce56 on October 21, 2010, 10:19:00 AM
Nephew bought a  real nice Predator recurve, and it was loud we did string silencers, strings and checked for anything loose, brace height etc! Added limbsavers and that seemed to quiet the bow the most!
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 25, 2010, 07:09:00 PM
Well I got her as quiet, or more quiet than some of my past long bows. I padded my loops with yarn, took those blasted fur silencers off and installed cat whiskers. PRESTO! She is dead silent and feels 10x better than before. I cant lie, the noise and vibration really shot my confidence in the booty, not anymore! Thanks for all the tips everybody!
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: Terry Green on October 25, 2010, 07:25:00 PM
No, they are not *always* louder....one of the quietest bows I never heard was a recurve with BowHush and Hush Puppies with a Dacron String....it was selfbow quiet.

That is why I developed BowHush....to make recurves quiet as longbows.
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: carpenter on October 25, 2010, 08:14:00 PM
Glad to hear you got her calmed down,that is one sweet bow,with a lot of horse power.
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: Kingstaken on October 26, 2010, 09:46:00 AM
what kind of fletching do you have on ya arra's?
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: R. W. Mackey on October 26, 2010, 10:05:00 AM
I have the same bow, it will never be as quiet as a longbow, but it's pretty darned quiet. I shoot arrows that weigh 12 gr. per lb. of bow weight. Bow is 51# at my draw, arrows are 605 gr., I have a 9 strand D-10 string with cat wiskers, braced at 71/2 ". Works well for me.  R.W.
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 26, 2010, 10:14:00 AM
I use 5.5" fletching, my arrows are 32" long so I like the extra help from long fletching. R.W. my arrows are 605 grains and my bow pulls about 53-54# at my draw, 7 1/2 brace as well. Im VERY happy right now. That Next miss is going to feel better! HAHAHAHA!
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: rraming on October 26, 2010, 12:08:00 PM
Get those silencers off and put on cat wiskers - good article in the last TBM about it. I know the look is the look but they don't work very well.
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: KentuckyTJ on October 26, 2010, 12:50:00 PM
Flemish twist padded loop string. My favorite for my weights are a 8 strand padded to 16 in the loops. I am also on the string leeches.

Brace height is also more of a factor with sound on a recurve over a long bow. There will be a distance that is much quieter than others on most recurves.

Arrow weight is also more critical. Lighter weight arrows are louder than heavier shafts.
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: Crash on October 26, 2010, 02:03:00 PM
I see you got her quiet.  I am another proponent of low strand strings.  I have a BW Compact Hunter that was just plain loud.  Put an 8 strand, padded loop D10 from SBD and it is quiet.  I even used the spider silencers from Widow, that I don't think are the best but look pretty dang cool, and it is like night and day.
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: MERGANZER on October 26, 2010, 02:33:00 PM
My Whisperstik is very quiet with muskrat silencers on it.  I have seen some loud some quiet, guess it all depends on the bow and arrow combo as well.

Ganzer
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: Bill Turner on October 26, 2010, 03:20:00 PM
Bow Hush and Hush Puppies are the answer. Had'um on my BW before I sold it. Dead quiet. I'm mostly a longbow shooter now, but big believer in Terry's products. Besides that, the girls need the money for their education. Good luck.
Title: Re: Are they all loud?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 26, 2010, 03:34:00 PM
The fur silencers are cool no matter the species. But if a bow needs quieting down, they dont work for me. I use them on long bows because they usually dont need help, but they look nice with fur. The difference between my 497 gr and 605 gr arrows isnt very noticeable now, but I still like those heavy sucka's!