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Title: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on October 15, 2010, 08:51:00 PM
Been looking into buying a Paratarp with annex and parastove for cold weather camping in Dec and Jan. I can get set up on this outfit for about 600$.

Do any you fellers or gals know of any othe type of cold weather tent that is small and packable that is compatible with a wood stove for winter camping. I like to stay toasty LOL looking for a one or two man set up for around the same or less money that I can get in a frame pack.

Stiks
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: Jeff MacKenzie on October 15, 2010, 09:01:00 PM
take a look at the Kifaru tents.
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on October 15, 2010, 09:04:00 PM
That's what I been looking at Jeff is the Kifaru Paratarp with stove and annex. There pretty sweet. Just wondering what else is out there.
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: David Yukon on October 15, 2010, 09:08:00 PM
I belive that the Paratarp is from Kifaru?!?
One that I realy like is the Snow Trekker tents,
http://www.snowtrekkertents.com/shortwall.html
they are bulkier than the kifaru but much sturdier, IMO.
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: John Scifres on October 15, 2010, 09:58:00 PM
EZ Up with walls and a Lil Buddy works for me.  I'm comfortable in about any normal Indiana temps.
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on October 15, 2010, 10:03:00 PM
John where did you get your EZ up.
That was a pretty sweet set up you had at deer camp.

Sticks
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: Mudd on October 15, 2010, 11:34:00 PM
Nel from Canada and I have exchanged a few PM's and he told me that he just got back from his moose hunt which was about 18 hrs north of Ontario. That tells me it was cold..lol

Nel and I share something in common, we both have Hennessy Hammocks. He said he never had a more comfortable camping experience than staying in his Hennessy.

I was impressed and intend to give mine a try this winter.

I think he said he used a tarp out in front of his hammock just so he'd have a dry spot to stand out the hammock.

God bless,Mudd
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: JockC on October 16, 2010, 12:28:00 AM
Do a search on the backpack hunting section of 24hourcampfire.com, and you will find a great deal of information on sewing stove jacks into Golites, Black Diamonds, and others.  I'm going to sew one into a Golite tipi that weighs a couple of pounds and that cost $200.  There is also lots of information on homemade stoves, parts for stovepipe, spark arrestors, etc.  Good site.
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: wingnut on October 16, 2010, 08:18:00 AM
the kafiru tipis are great and light weight.  I've used a 4 man (too small) and a 14 man with wood stoves.  I'd go for a 8 man or so for a couple of guys hunting.

Mike
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: Orion on October 16, 2010, 03:03:00 PM
I agree with Mike.  I have a six-man Kifaru, that's just about perfect for one person, though two can fit in with their gear without being terribly crowded.  Still small enough for one person to pack.  Mighty close quarters in the Para-tipi.  Not much room to move around on those days or parts of days you might be tent bound.
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: Paul WA on October 16, 2010, 03:22:00 PM
I have a 10x10 outback lodge from Cabelas and my Mr Heater keeps it toasty, Im sure it would work well in a smaller tent...PR
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: John Scifres on October 16, 2010, 05:41:00 PM
Sam's Club.  10x10 with sidewalls for $200.  Ain't much for backpackin' though.

I forgot to post this one.  A celebratory cigar...

 (http://sticknstring.webs.com/photos/JW-Bowhunt-2010/JW2010-09.jpg)
...after a good day of traditional bowhunting.
 (http://sticknstring.webs.com/photos/JW-Bowhunt-2010/darrendeer2.jpg)

Here's another coolish one.
 (http://sticknstring.webs.com/photos/JW-Bowhunt-2010/JW2010-08.jpg)
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: Killdeer on October 16, 2010, 05:45:00 PM
If you are backpacking, an EZ Up or a Mr. Heater are out. My EZ Up leaks like a tuna net anyway, and I need to put a tarp over it for it to be usable.

Sorry I don't have a positive solution, but it seems that the "pack" requisite for your equipment had been lost, and I wanted the emphasis to shift back to what a guy could trek with to keep him warm and dry on the trail. This would be useful for a possible spike camp, in my neck of the woods.

Killdeer
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: Mike Theis on October 16, 2010, 07:07:00 PM
GoLite tents are nice too. But you'll have to put in a stove jack to accommodate the stove.

Go to the following link on the 24hourcampfire site, the backpack hunting area. Lots of threads there on backpacking, cold weather camping setups. Many make their own stoves too. Good luck

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/forums/25/1/Backpack_Hunting
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: stalkin4elk on October 16, 2010, 08:58:00 PM
Kifaru.net forums compares the paratarps to the new Sawtooth and teepees. Read around a little to see what fits your needs best.
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: Over&Under on October 16, 2010, 09:13:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Orion:
I agree with Mike.  I have a six-man Kifaru, that's just about perfect for one person, though two can fit in with their gear without being terribly crowded.  Still small enough for one person to pack.  Mighty close quarters in the Para-tipi.  Not much room to move around on those days or parts of days you might be tent bound.
Not sure how a so called 6-man tent is only good for 2 guys.  Am I missing something or are they way underestimating the size of their tents?
I would hate to buy a two person only to find out my buddy had to sleep in the storm.
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: Mike Bolin on October 16, 2010, 09:36:00 PM
Over&Under, I think that when tents are rated, all that is considered is how many "average adults" will fit on the floor....no gear to speak of. My Eureka Timberline 4 is pretty tight with me and one hunting buddy. I am 6'2" and 250# and he is 6'6" and 325#. It would do fine for me and my gear. My 8 man tent is great with 2 guys and cots with room for gear. Mike
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: Over&Under on October 16, 2010, 10:23:00 PM
Mike

I understand what you are saying, they are usually rated for specific measurments for the average adult snugged right up next to another person. I have a 2 man tent that could fit two guys but no gear to speak of,was even a bit tight with just me and my gear.  A 4 person tent I can see would hold 2 guys and some gear, but a 6 man rating is a little misleading when only 2 guys and some gear is all you can get to fit.  I guess it would be wise to always check the measurments before you buy.
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: DeerSpotter on October 16, 2010, 11:38:00 PM
Eureka Timberline SQ outfitter 4 SunnySports 228.00 shipped

I'm 6 foot 220 lb,It is a great design for a tent ,It has wings on it to put gear outside ,But it also has a vestibule available that is from the Timberline 4 ,So the gear will be inside .And because it is the "Outfitter ",It is made out of the more durable fabrics heavier Oxford floor ,The polls are aircraft aluminum ,Also it has arch to it with the separation in the roof,This spreads the roof apart at the top I can stand up arched and I touch the roof with my shoulders .

I think the key is find a tent that fit your needs ,You're not going to find the perfect tent for everything . I have two tents ,And I will be adding another one ,All for different applications

Carl
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: Orion on October 16, 2010, 11:47:00 PM
Yep, what Mike and Over& Under said.  They figure size by how many folks could lay out on the floor.  The six-person Kifaru actually has an oval footprint of about 12-14 feet, and it's 7 feet in the center.  The slope of the walls make the outer perimeter fit for gear more than people.  Certainly is packable though at about 4 1/2 pounds, if memory serves.  I cut my own center pole in the woods rather than pack the adjustable aluminum pole.  Also, Kifaru's medium collapsable stove, which weighs less than 5 #, is also packable by a one-man operation.
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: GingivitisKahn on October 17, 2010, 08:23:00 AM
I like the Timberline 4 which is what my son and I will probably be using in a few weeks here but to rate that for 4 people is the hight of optimism.  I think all tent makers do that and it never fails to annoy me.

Don't know about you guys but in a tent like this one, I sleep with my head by the door - if there are two of us, one has his head by the door on the left side of the tent and the other on the right.  The diagram that shows four sleepers has all four laying head to toe sideways in the tent (the peak is over your belly and your head and feet are where the walls meet the floor).  Yeah right!

Sorry - that topic provokes an insta-rant from me.
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: nel on October 17, 2010, 10:08:00 PM
If you are looking for an extremely (yup - extremely) comfortable sleep, and want something that is light and compact to carry and very easy to set up and take down, I don't think you can beat a Hennessey Hammock.

I spent 10 days in one (with the cold weather attachment in Northern ontario this fall moose hunting and I have NEVER had a better sleep in the outdoors. During those 10 days we had everything: wind, rain, below freezing and snow (and even some nice warm weather).

I strung a tarp over one end so  I had some shelter to store my gear and get dressed in and it worked very well.

I really need to emphasize how comfortable that hammock is. It is better than most beds I've slept in, let alone camping in the bush.
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: David Yukon on October 18, 2010, 12:20:00 AM
Nel, where do you put the stove;)
This tent look like a good one, at 20# with the center pole, wich weight 4#, it make a tent at only 16# to sleep 3-4 people. Not super light but look realy sturdy!
http://www.tipitent.com/mountain_tipi.htm
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: nel on October 18, 2010, 06:43:00 AM
David

haven't figgered that part out yet! 8^)
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: GingivitisKahn on October 18, 2010, 07:02:00 AM
Hammocks are great and work in cold weather too but there is a learning curve.  It's worth the time but just throwing a sleeping bag inside and climbing in - that's not going to cut it.
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: Steve O on October 18, 2010, 12:02:00 PM
I have a 4-man Kifaru.  There is PLENTY of room for 2-guys plus gear.  With that said, I'd LOVE to have an 8-man as it would be palacial without much more of a weight penalty.  I am in the process of replacing the 4-man with an 8-man AND a SuperTarp/Annex to cover all bases.  With what you are looking at (Para/Annex), you are not going to find anything in the same weight class or size that is going to have stove capability.
Title: Re: Cold weather Tent for camping
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on October 18, 2010, 12:36:00 PM
After much tought and looking around on the net I decided to forgo the pack thing for now and get a 10X10 wall tent.

 I found a canvas wall tent with mesh windows for summer time and stove jack for winter time and everthing in between. I think it will be great for deer camp.

I'm still gonna get a supertarp in the future or the 4 man tipi but for the price I found this at I can't let it go.

Thanks for all the input.

Stiks