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Title: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on October 09, 2010, 10:45:00 PM
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Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on October 09, 2010, 10:46:00 PM
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Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on October 09, 2010, 10:47:00 PM
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Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on October 09, 2010, 10:48:00 PM
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h227/rnorris/hunting2010050.jpg)
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on October 09, 2010, 10:50:00 PM
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Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on October 09, 2010, 10:51:00 PM
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Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: NoCams on October 09, 2010, 10:52:00 PM
Looking good Roger ! She be a big heifer ! What did she weigh ?
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on October 09, 2010, 10:53:00 PM
Story tomorrow...I'm tired!!
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: Mudd on October 09, 2010, 11:10:00 PM
:clapper:     :clapper:    :clapper:    :clapper:
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: stik&string on October 09, 2010, 11:10:00 PM
Wow thats a big one! Congrats!
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on October 09, 2010, 11:44:00 PM
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h227/rnorris/hunting2010056.jpg)

This is a crummy pic, but it shows how big she is. She was full sized...
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on October 09, 2010, 11:45:00 PM
sorry, I thought I rotated the picture.
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: varmint101 on October 09, 2010, 11:51:00 PM
Big doe!  Congrats!  How do you like the Trailmakers?  That's the first deer I've seen taken with them.
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: S.C. Hunter on October 10, 2010, 12:02:00 AM
Nice deer and nice shot! How do you like the Trailmaker heads I guess pretty good right now. I guess what I mean is how do they shoot whistle, did point hold up well?  Did you get complete penetration? Thanks and again great deer and congratulations.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on October 10, 2010, 12:06:00 AM
I like them quite a bit...my pictures don't do the bloodtrail justice. It was actually a marginal hit, but the bloodtrail was awesome.
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: S.C. Hunter on October 10, 2010, 12:12:00 AM
Glad to hear that you like them I like the look and just curious did you use wood, carbon, or aluminum? If it was carbon or aluminum what adapter did you use?
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on October 10, 2010, 12:17:00 AM
Carbons...Axis shafts from Kustom King. They came with the insert installed, I used 100 grain steel adapters, for a total broadhead weight of 225 grains.
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on October 10, 2010, 02:19:00 AM
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: Al Kidner on October 10, 2010, 05:16:00 AM
Gotta love good blood trails!


Cheers mate!

ak.
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: jcar315 on October 10, 2010, 06:32:00 AM
Congrats!!!
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on October 10, 2010, 07:45:00 AM
Sorry for the delayed story, but I needed some sleep!

I went out yesterday afternoon about 4:00. It was warm, too warm for my taste when it comes to deer hunting. But I had a turkey tag also, so I figured I may as well go out.

Almost right away....about 5:00...deer started moving. They came out of a swamp behind me, and started feeding on acorns. A yearling doe was under my tree for quite a while, I figured I would let her be. About 5:20 this mature doe wanders through, and stands broadside for a few seconds too long. My intention was to put the arrow at about her last rib, and angle forward out through the front shoulder. Somehow I screwed up. The arrow was way to high, Almsot a spine shot. And she must have twisted on my release....the exit hole is farther back than I would want. Initial arrow penetration was't the best either..I like tem to zip right through, she took off with appeared to be 6 inches of shaft hanging out. Dammit.

I watched her go, and took a compass reading as she departed (thanks for pounding that into my head Ron   ;)  ).

I climbed down after only about 5 minutes...it was warm, and I didn't want an after dark bloated deer affair...

I didn't take all of the bloodtrail pictures that I should have. About 5 feet from the initial impact there was a hug (20" diameter) pool of blood, and blood smeared on a sapling. Hmmm. For the next 30 yards, nothing. I went to the last place I saw her, using my compass reading, and WOW...she had turned to head down to the river and must have stumbled. Blood everywhere. I followed her trail as it went on a runway paralell to the river (more of a big creek). The blood was getting frothy, and there was lots of it. I was concerned because I had traveled about 125 yards....too far...I was kind of stillhunting the trail, reminding myself that I was on it about 30 minutes too early.

As her blood trail turned down toward the river, I saw movement on the other side. She was laying down in some heavy vegetation. She saw me, but didn't move. I slowly sat down. So here was my dilema. I wanted desperately to end her suffering, but I was afraid that if I approached her (I would have had to cross the water, she was about 40 yards away) and possibly spook her.  Although I had good blood, I also know that ANYTHING can happen....trailing her through a swamp all night, and maybe losing her to the near 80 degree temps seemed like the worse option. We have all seen deer summon that last bit of adrenaline and sprint for another minute or so. In this swamp a minute deer sprint can cost a deer.

So the unfortunate, but I feel ethical choice was to quietly sit and watch her die. She would lift her head, get a smell of me, and try and stand. She couldn't. Then she started to breath heavy, and finally laid down her head. I gave her 10 more minutes, and then approached. She was done.

I was suprised to find that the arrow had completely penetrated. I still haven't recovered it. The Trailmaker 3 blade head had done it's job, and continued cutting right through as she ran, eventually working out the other side. entry and exit holes were large and flowing with blood.

I now had to drag her out through some of the thickest, nastiest swamp I know. I had her field dressed by 6:00, didn't have her in the truck until 8:30.

All in all, it was a pretty neat and memorable hunt. I wanted to kill a deer with the broadheads Tim had sent, and I wanted to refill my freezer with a full sized doe. I have the great fortune of having absorbed a smidgen of woodsmanship from my friend Ron LaClair, and I think I used some of the common sense he's "loaned" me on this bloodtrail. The compass reading, the decision to get on the trail early because of the temp, but to still hunt the trail are all things I have picked up listening to him. I killed the doe on my Uncle Jacks property, who just recently passed away. He was the man who spent the time making me a deer hunter when I was younger.

It was one of those days, that even though I was hunting alone, I had lots of friends helping me out.

 :archer2:
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: Ray Lyon on October 10, 2010, 07:56:00 AM
Congratulations buddy. That's a dandy looking doe. The Shrewhaven boys are making meat early this year. Kevin's nice buck and that dandy doe.  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:   I know Greg really likes his Trailmaker heads too and he's using the same one hundred grain steel adapter with his on VMax carbon arrows.  

Enjoy those fresh tenderloins!!!
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: Follower on October 10, 2010, 08:00:00 AM
Great telling of the story Roger.  That's one for the memeory bank!
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: wv lungbuster on October 10, 2010, 08:31:00 AM
Nice doe congratulations.
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: Bonebuster on October 10, 2010, 09:10:00 AM
Great pics Roger!!!

You did everything right.

I have no doubt, that we never hunt alone. I don`t hesitate to ask for help when it`s needed.

Carbons can get catapulted a long ways off the escape path. Aluminums buckle, and wood breaks, but carbons bend and bend, and then get re-released.

Enjoy the rest of the season.  :campfire:
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: NoCams on October 10, 2010, 09:17:00 AM
Great story telling Roger.... maybe you are picking that art up from Ron as well, haha ??? Thanks for taking us along and congrats bud  !!!
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: Bill Carlsen on October 10, 2010, 09:40:00 AM
You should have her weighed for Bobby Urban's big doe contest.
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: Hawkeye on October 10, 2010, 09:40:00 AM
Well done, Roger, and well told.  Congratulations on a fine hunt.
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: Straight Shootin' on October 10, 2010, 09:40:00 AM
Great story and awesome deer, Congratulations!!  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: DEATHMASTER on October 10, 2010, 11:13:00 AM
That is a nice doe.

Tim
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on October 10, 2010, 11:44:00 AM
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I went back and found the arrow this morning. 12" of penetration. Not great, but the interesting thing to me is the broadhead worked it's way through, and out the other side within 40 yards of impact, on a bad shot. That dispells a myth, at least for me....I have always assumed a 3 blade wouldn't penetrate as well as a 2 blade...and I know thats been pretty well proven...but for that Trailmaker to work it's way through, and poke through the hide like that, well I'm pretty well satisfied with these heads.

By the way, the butcher weighed her, she was 131 pounds.
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: Java Man on October 10, 2010, 05:58:00 PM
Way to go Roger.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on October 10, 2010, 07:32:00 PM
Thanks for the sweet bow!!!!
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: tukudu on October 10, 2010, 07:43:00 PM
Roger thanks for sharing the process that underlined your decision to sit and wait. Many who do not have the experience would have pushed rather than wait. Nice doe, TM
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: Bullfrog 1 on October 10, 2010, 08:12:00 PM
Great story Roger.   BILL
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: owlbait on October 10, 2010, 08:30:00 PM
Congrats on the recovery and thanks for sharing your story. How many pounds are you shooting and what was the total arrow weight? How wide are those Trailmakers? Any trouble sharpening them? Sorry for all the questions, I'm still trying to figure all this stuff out.
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on October 10, 2010, 08:40:00 PM
Owlbait, total arrow weight is 515 grains, the broadhead is 1 1/8" wide.

Sharpening them is pretty easy, I use a file and a diamond sharpening stick.
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: owlbait on October 10, 2010, 08:49:00 PM
Thanks, and again, congratulations!
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: Steve O on October 10, 2010, 09:11:00 PM
Nice one Roger.  3 Blades rock    ;)
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on October 11, 2010, 06:46:00 AM
They sure do. I have never used anything but 2 blades (which I still love). This was very interesting to me. I'm looking forward to a nice clean double lung shot, maybe from the ground. Pretty funny....something as simple as traditional archery, and I learn something new everytime out.  :archer:
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: maineac on October 11, 2010, 11:00:00 AM
Thanks for sharing the hunt and the technical report.
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: bowhunterfrompast on October 11, 2010, 04:44:00 PM
Congrats   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: Terry Green on October 11, 2010, 04:53:00 PM
:bigsmyl:     :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: Ron LaClair on October 11, 2010, 05:40:00 PM
Well done Grasshopper ...    :cool:
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: cacciatore on October 11, 2010, 05:47:00 PM
Good work.
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on October 11, 2010, 07:45:00 PM
Ron.....we will have breakfast sausage a'plenty for camp....warm up the biscuits!

Seriously, thanks for the "check your compass" lesson...it's played a big part in the last several deer I have shot. Absolutely the best tracking tip I ever learned.  :notworthy:
Title: Re: Li'l Favorite and Trailmaker Broadheads....
Post by: Guru on October 11, 2010, 07:48:00 PM
way to go Roger!!
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Post by: Longbow1953 on October 11, 2010, 08:01:00 PM
Good blood trail. Nice job.  :cool: