do any of you use a hang on an use it like a climber? put it up for for the evening then take it back down and rehang it the next day? basically do you use the hang on as a portable treestand? what stand do you use and, what steps? im lookin to get away from the weight of a climber(20lbs) and go lighter. id be fine if all i could get up was 12ft. but need something thats light. under 15 pounds total, stand and steps together. less would be better. how much a pain is it to use a hang on like that?
No I dont it is to much trouble for me...and I dont really like using my climber that much.
I've done it several times way back in. I have never used a climber because there are few trees they work on here in AZ. I use 2 or 3 Lone wolf sticks to climb and an unknown make stand that is very lite. The small buck in my avatar was taken that way.
Chippewa Stands work great this way - the smaller lighter models - Mine always goes in with me on myback - I can climb the tree - pull the stand up - set it - get in it- hunt - and do the reverse without ever being disconnected to my screaming eagle harness = for hardoods I use simmons woodpecker drill and steel pins - for pines Chippewa hang on stiks.
Best - Safest - Quietest stand made.
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I hunted that way quite a bit with various stand but the best steps imo are the rope-on kind with a chinese knot. I didn't like them at first but once I got used to them they were quick and easy. 6 steps and a stand and I was ready to go. I lived where there were not a lot of climber-friendly trees. Now that I live in the midst of a lot of straight trees I honestly prefer the climber - a little more weight but a quicker and quieter set up in the tree. My Lone Wolf climber isn't much more than 15 lbs.
i love my climber, summit viper ss but 20lbs is getting to me. hurts my neck and upper back. im just basically tired of lugging it. dont have to hunt high up, just want lighter to carry. im not real fond of tree stands with out bar around the front, so i stay lower to ground and feel safer. my summit has a bar and i feel completly safe at 20ft. but when you got your bow and clothes and pack to take along it gets heavy and is a pain in the back and neck. wish they made one around 10lbs.
I've always used my Loc-on stands that way. Unless I planned to hunt the same location in the evening and again next morning I have always taken them down.
Never thought it was a bother. I have always used the rope on type steps. My favorite were made by Deer Me, still using them and have been since 1979.
still using my original steps, just change out the ropes occasionally.
When I was younger I could hang 8 steps and my Loc-on Spirit stand in under 7 minutes, quietly, and be 12 to 16 feet depending on the number of steps used.
Still use the stands the same way just a little slower at getting them up.
I believe the Loc-on Spirit and the Lem are around 7 lbs or less.
Hunting public land in Wisconsin you have to remove your stand every day. I have tried several and found the Lone Wolf or the Chippewa Wedge Loc to be two of the best. I use Lone Wolf Sticks to climb up, a set of three can get you 16' without much problem.
John
I invested in one light weight stand and then about thirty screw in steps. I run the steps in all the way and when I leave I bring the stand and as many steps as I can reach with me so no one else can use em. Even when I leave the syand I take the steps with me and reuse the holes when I go back. I only hunt private land like this though because on public land in mo you can't harm the trees.
Hang ons ARE portable. As john says (above) here in Wisconsin we have to do that every day. Once you have a system it is not difficult at all to do. I also agree with his choices of stands and step systems..
ChuckC
I use a Lone Wolf Assault to hunt spots I don't hunt a lot of times in the season or where I think there is a chance someone would take the stand or hunt from it. I use 16' tie on stick ladders. I place them before the season and move them around if needed. I get them for about $35 post season so they are not that expensive if one vanishes. I camo them up with 3-4 color paint and camo spray the ropes. I then try and put in the ladders around the side of trees where they are least visible. This has worked well for me. I climb the tree with the stand on by back using a lineman's belt. Then I hang an easy hang hook, take the stand off and hang it. Then secure with two more straps and get on. I then pull my bow up with a line I have pre-tied off to the stand. I do that in reverse to get down, but often lower the stand with a rope I have on the stand at all times. It is fairly fast and quiet. The Loan Wolf Assault is very light and easy to carry. It is also rock solid and extremely quiet.
i rarely evere use a climber. I use hang on stands, i put them up when I start the hunt and take them down when I am finished, whither it is all day or anly a few hours. I rarely leave them up overnight if not on my property. I learned my lesson already.
i like to use a LocOn Windwalker and Ameristep strap on steps. The stand is less then 5lbs and the steps are only a few ounces each.
God Bless,
Nathan
Its all I do! Original (early 90s) LW with sticks. Turkey vest with everything in place. One time up the tree and I am in. Very economical I may add too. It makes me completely stealthy and on the move. I can switch with the wind. Every sit is a new. Every 4+ year old mature deer I have harvested or encountered has been first time into a stand. In fact, I never hit an area until I am ready to hunt it. It takes me 7-8 minutes to set up and take down. I am not sure why more people do not do this.
Typical scenario from last year:
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Dan in KS
wow thanks guys great advice, we cannot use screw in steps here on public land. but the sticks sound good. i need to give it a try. the other day my wife said.. as i was on my knees in the woods loading my stand on my back... you really need to get rid of that and get something lighter. lol im goin to have to do some looking and fig up best setup for me. def the climbing sticks, just need to fig out what stand. my muddy safety harness has linemans belt so im set to go safety wise.
do you guys usually look for clusters of trees together to better hide or do you get away with single trees. the leaves will all be off here soon so using foliage is outa the question.
You can also look into the ameristep rapid rails, they come in aluminum and steel, easy to set up and they stack togethor nicely while transporting to and from your hunting spot. I use a gorilla scout hang on stand with these.
To answer your other question I try and find trees that are clustered togethor to help hide. But also make sure that the cluster doesn't prevent you from shooting.
Rodney
This is my exclusive set-up. -20# .. The only update to the pic is I attached a backpack hip-belt so there is no weight on my shoulders.
KEY to this is using a turkey vest with all my stuff; saw, pruners etc all in the same pockets- so as I climb up i can grab whatever I need.
I never use a lineman line as it is too dangerous- I want to hang on to the tree, not be using my hands to move a rope around limbs. (It may work for a telephone pole, but not trees with limbs.) Once I am on the top of my second stick- before stepping up on my third, I tie on to the tree with my rappelling/climbers harness. Again- my 2C.
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Cover is nice in a tree, but I stand against the trunk quite often and get away with lot.
Dan in KS
... Yep ..I love my "LOC-ON Windwalker too.. so light and easy to put up. I can sit in it for about three hours. Fast set up..for a quick hunt ! Not sure you can still get them though???
My set up is a treesuit for when i get to the height where i strap in to hunt.
for climbing, i use an old lone wolf (vbar) seat held on my feet like any climber.
I climb by bear hugging the tree (ala baker tree stand). But the weight of the hand climber on my feet is so light it is easy.
I am 49 and this works well for me.
The whole setup weighs less than 10 lbs (maybe a little over).
There is the safety factor of not being strapped in when I climb. for this I do not have a solution.
I always move around from place to place..may hunt a stand morning and evening, but not more than that. It was easy when I used pole climbers, but got to be a pain using screw in and strap on steps. Just use climbers not days.
I use a Loc-On Wind Walker and 3 or 4 lone wolf sticks. Pack them in with my Wild Thing pack.
90% of the time, I do it just like Dan, but I do use the lineman's belt--actually two of them so I can go around those pesky limbs.
I hunted out of my lone wolf alpha and climbing sticks (3) this weekend. I either use that or my lone wolf climber. Most of the time I use the climber, but when there's a tree I cant get a climber up, I take the hang on.
I have only hunted that way on public lands, where you are required to remove your stands daily. It's a lot of work and I don't like to place a stand up before day light. For me, it's a safety issue.
When I do use this tactic, I like to use Lone Wolf climbing sticks. They are very light and pack easily. The River's Edge stands are nice and affordable. I have two of them.
Good luck this season!
Chippewas are great as others said and if ya need a recipe for home made brackets ya can PM me!! I can make them for about 6 or 7 dollars instead of $25. I have about 40 stand sites that are all prepared with steps and a bracket. All I do is carryy stand in, climb the tree and swing the stand off my back and hang it in the bracket and I am hunting. It deters thieves as nobody steals my brackets and I use skyhook steps for the first 5 steps, so unless they have them they cannot climb the tree either! Shawn
those lokon stands look like the bar for the seat cuts into the back of your legs, cuts off circulation? or is it comfortable?
aslso are those climbing stick fast to get up the tree with, i never used them?
I'm going to say yes and yes to that. The seat on those little loc ons is way too short for me. Lone Wolf is well thought out and my buddy swears by his Chippewa.
Summit makes a climber called the open shot, it supposedly weighs only 15 pounds.
In my area over the last few years I have about 30 trees spiked.I can carry a hang on in and be up in the tree in no time at all.I do make my hang ons quit as heck. If they are square tube frame's I fill them with expansion foam in the off season.It helps when you bang it to keep it from twanging.Electrical tape on the links of the chain also.
And I carry 2 2 inch pieces of firm foam to add height to the seat,I wrap them in old camo t-shirts.
Two Wolf sticks and stand, and I'm higher than the low canopy. I use to go up about 16' but now I just go up high enough so I'm not in their line of sight. It worked real well last year.
I have climbers but the Lone Wolf gear is so light and easy to carry that I can hunt with it on my back, with my back pack and my quiver.