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Title: Thanks Smoky
Post by: Greyfox54 on October 05, 2010, 10:09:00 PM
I thought I would post this about a new sponsor here , Smokies deer lures . Being a former trapper I know full well the value of good lures . I also know the damage poor lures can do . I called Smokey on the phone and he talked with me for almost an hour . Not many buisnessmen will spend that kind of time for a $25 sale . He's a real down to earth guy . I bought a bottle of his preorbital gland lure and it arrived Sept. 30th , I went out that afternoon to a heavily hunted area I like and made a mock scrape . I make a lot of mock scrapes every year using a real buck foot from either one I harvested or from a roadkill . I make them under a good overhanging branch . I like to set my stand angled about downwind to crosswind where possible and about 15 -20 yards away . I wasn't planning to hunt that particular scrape until the rut gets further along . I didn't expect any action for some time . Opening day for that zone was Sat. Oct. 2nd . I had to work some that day so couldn't get to an area I wanted to hunt.  ithought  would go to the scrape not really expecting anything but seeing the area is about 10 miles from home I could get there and hunt for awile .
    I arrived and climed into my stand with about 2 hours of daylight left . It was a perfect day in the pines . The rain had stopped and the woods smelled like only a pine woods can . It was sunny with very comfortable temps. After about an hour things settled down and I saw a small 4 point browsing along . He got crosswind of me at about 30 yards and stiffened up looking in my direction . I figured things were over when I realized he was looking past my stand at another bigger 4 point that was coming in from behind me . I could see a small doe feeding along behind him . They were a little skittish but when the bigger 4 point got downwind of the scrape he calmed right down . The three of them were feeding within 40 yards for 10-15 minutes .
           I was thinking things were going to work out for a shot when they all stood at attention and looked off to my right . I coulkd see movement a ways out but couldn't tell what it was . I realised it was a good deer when it got about 40 yards downwind and turned and started to come my way . It was feeding along but heading directly to the scrape . He was scent checking the air every few steps but showed no sign of being nervous . The scrape was about 15-20 yards to my left , which makes for easy shooting , and he was now about 18 yards broadside facing the scrape . I thought that I would just sit back and see how he was going to react to the preorbitol scent I put on the overhanging branch . One of the other deer made a sudden move and he casualy looked back at him , I immediately came to my senses , Thank God , and put an arrow through his lungs , and yes Bullfrog it was an interceptor .
       I have waited in the past to see what a deer would do and I got to see many of them slip away on me in plain site .I hunt pretty thick cover and they have a bad habit of getting a tree or branch between us and walking off .Som,e people say I shoot too quick but I wait for the first GOOD shot and take it .
      So the results are either I was just lucky or the lure drew him in . I think it did and I was even more impressed by the calming effect it seemed to have on them . I'm sold on Smokie's preorbital lure . Now I have fresh buck feet to make more scrapes with . Thanks Smokey !
Title: Re: Thanks Smoky
Post by: Greyfox54 on October 05, 2010, 10:24:00 PM
Here's some pix...

  (http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh80/dewalt1797/deer10-2201-1.jpg)

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Title: Re: Thanks Smoky
Post by: FerretWYO on October 05, 2010, 10:29:00 PM
Thats a cool story, good custumer service, and an awesome buck congrats Fred.
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Post by: crotch horn on October 05, 2010, 10:44:00 PM
very nice

  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Kenneth on October 05, 2010, 10:50:00 PM
good shooting!!   :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:   I'm gonna have to give Smokys a try.
Title: Re: Thanks Smoky
Post by: Barry Wensel on October 05, 2010, 11:21:00 PM
Good job Fred! Gene and I use Smokey's preorbital on overhead branches at scrapes and licks when using our trail cameras too. We absolutely get more buck pics using it than without it. Good stuff. BW
Title: Re: Thanks Smoky
Post by: Bowhunter4life on October 05, 2010, 11:58:00 PM
Very nice Fred!  Congrats!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Thanks Smoky
Post by: straitera on October 06, 2010, 12:39:00 AM
Good work GF54. Nice deer.

I too talked to Smokey & bought cover scent. Yesterday I had 2 doe walk straight towards me from downwind. *Too many times to be luck. They never smelled me but calmly turned around when I started shaking the tree moving around for the shot. They were less than 30 yards out. I moved the stand to a sturdier tree.
Title: Re: Thanks Smoky
Post by: Whip on October 06, 2010, 12:54:00 AM
Nice buck Fred!  I'm going to have to look into some Smoky's myself. If you say it's the real deal it must be good.
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Post by: storm5 on October 06, 2010, 01:38:00 AM
Very nice buck and good shooting  :archer2:
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Post by: Guru on October 06, 2010, 05:54:00 AM
Awsome Fred, what a good looking buck    :notworthy:
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Post by: Onions on October 06, 2010, 05:59:00 AM
Nice story Fred! thansk for sharing. I was just looking into Smokey's, now I will have to give it a try!
Congrats again

chris <><
Title: Re: Thanks Smoky
Post by: broketooth on October 06, 2010, 06:03:00 AM
thats an awesome buck greyfox,   :clapper:  way to feild test a new product too, ruddy
Title: Re: Thanks Smoky
Post by: Tique on October 06, 2010, 06:05:00 AM
Congrats on a real nice buck Fred; nice pics too. Never heard of Smokey's lures, I'll have to give them a try.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Thanks Smoky
Post by: wv lungbuster on October 06, 2010, 06:07:00 AM
Yeah Smokey gave me alot of info about his products via e-mail, very helpful. His lures are the real deal and you could not deal with a better guy.
Title: Re: Thanks Smoky
Post by: rastaman on October 06, 2010, 06:15:00 AM
Awesome animal!   :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Thanks Smoky
Post by: Izzy on October 06, 2010, 06:32:00 AM
Hes a beauty congradulatiosns.I gotta order some of that.Anyone know how he obtains it? Farm deer, kills??? Just curious.Ive looked before and dont think anyone else sells it.
Title: Re: Thanks Smoky
Post by: Bear on October 06, 2010, 10:32:00 AM
:thumbsup:    :clapper:  

Lookin' forward to meeting you, Fred!
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Post by: pacopperhead on October 06, 2010, 01:14:00 PM
awesome!!!
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Post by: crotch horn on October 06, 2010, 01:22:00 PM
Beautiful buck!! Congrats. Just ordered some of Smokys lure. hope it works have as well for me! Will let you guys know how it does for me.
Title: Re: Thanks Smoky
Post by: Chris Surtees on October 06, 2010, 01:43:00 PM
:thumbsup:     :thumbsup:
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Post by: Dave Thaxton on October 06, 2010, 02:23:00 PM
Congrats on the buck. Confidence in the lure is huge. If it seemed to have a calming effect on the deer then the confidence factor goes thru the roof!
Title: Re: Thanks Smoky
Post by: Molson on October 06, 2010, 03:03:00 PM
Nice job! Beautiful deer!!  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Thanks Smoky
Post by: Greyfox54 on October 06, 2010, 10:21:00 PM
Thanks Guys , He's the best Jersey buck I've taken . The pinelands area I hunt isn't known for big deer . Any deer over 100 lbs. here is bragging size and this one went 127 . I've shot a few around 116-118 but never over 120 . Other guys have shot some bigger ones but not me .
  I've seen a lot of deer over the years but few were as calm as these were . They were skittish like usual until they got downwind of the scrape with the pre-orbital gland on the licking branch , then thier whole manner changed . Most times I change their mood from calm to alert when they come in . Maybe I was just lucky , but I believe in this stuff .
Title: Re: Thanks Smoky
Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on October 07, 2010, 03:12:00 AM
:thumbsup:
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Post by: GrayRhino on October 07, 2010, 03:45:00 AM
Beautiful buck!
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Post by: Guru on October 07, 2010, 06:12:00 AM
Ordered some yesterday Fred...congrats again    :clapper:
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Post by: Bonebuster on October 07, 2010, 07:02:00 AM
Great job!!!
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Post by: Terry Green on October 07, 2010, 09:51:00 AM
Good stuff right there.....congrats Fred!!!!    :clapper:
Title: Re: Thanks Smoky
Post by: Terry Green on October 07, 2010, 06:17:00 PM
TTT
Title: Re: Thanks Smoky
Post by: longbow fanatic 1 on October 07, 2010, 07:36:00 PM
Congrats, Fred. You should be proud of that buck. He is a dandy!!!

BTW: I have heard Dr. Kenneth Cooper, PHd, talk about scalp scent. This is the glad surrounding the base of the antlers. It is that glad that causes an old buck to have lighter color hair between the antler pedicles, on the top of their head. According to Mr. Cooper, when you see two bucks meet, many times they smell each others forheads. Each buck within their home range know the smell of the bucks in their area. When you put pre-orbital scent out, it probably causes the buck in the area to question who this new intruder is?

Dr. Cooper is the only person I have ever talk about scalp scent, and the importance it plays in the rut cycle.

Thanks for the tip on the scent and congrats!

Dennis
Title: Re: Thanks Smoky
Post by: Greyfox54 on October 07, 2010, 08:21:00 PM
All in good time Bear ! Not soon enough .

Dennis , I believe you're right about deer noticing an intruder in their area , as I said I make a lot of mock scrapes and even scrape over existing scrapes using fresh deer feet . I difintely see more activity at scrapes that are not from the same area I got the buck feet . Also they seem to go beserk if I scrape over another bucks spot . I think my problem lies in the fact I was a fox trapper for so many years that I can read sign and can tell where most any animal will go but I haven't been able to figure out the time they do it .I know the where  not the when . When that happens I'll be deadly .
Title: Re: Thanks Smoky
Post by: Guru on October 07, 2010, 08:29:00 PM
Fred, do you go to extreme measures to be as unscented as possible when making your mock scapes? Or just go in with what you happen to have on?

Just curious....

I have a trail cam over a scrape right now. It's been there about 5 days now. I'm waiting till I get my scent from Smokey to go in and check it so I can doctor the scrape.

I'll leave the camera with fresh batteries and new card to see if the activity picks up after adding the Smokeys Pre-Orbital.

Good stuff!!
Title: Re: Thanks Smoky
Post by: Greyfox54 on October 07, 2010, 09:14:00 PM
Curt  99% of the time I shower with hunters soap either Scent-a-way or dead Down wind or the like before I leave the house . I keep my clothes as clean as possible without getting anal about it . I always wear rubber boots and try to approach my stand from an angle I think the deer won't be coming from , here I'm usually wrong . I don't touch the branch with my bare hands but open the bottle and kind of stick it over the branch without spilling it . I approach the scrape from the side and rake up the dirt to either the left or right depending on where I think the deer will approach . If I don't have a deer foot i use a short pine stick and carry it up the tree with me . I also notice that when I call or rattle and a buck responds he comes straight to my tree . Like he knows exactly where the noise came from . H Theyb ncircle downwind of me and most times scent me . I therefore get to my tree just before pink light if AM hunts or anytime in the afternoon and walk over to my scrape and freshen it and proceed to rattle or call from the scrape and then beat feet into my treestand which is located about 15-20 yards crosswind of the scrape ( hopefully ).I have deer show up within 15 minutes but usually about 1/2 hour seems to be my special time for morning hunts . Afternoons sometimes I call around 4 or 5 and deer come in around 6-6:30 . Happens too many times to be coincidence .
    Just read your question again if I'm not hunting just checking things out I always wash up and wear rubber boots . I worry about my breath and used to gargle with baking soda but now mostly eat an apple or potatoe or some carrots on my drive to the woods .

  Probably not the best way but works enough times for me to believe . Hope this helps .
Title: Re: Thanks Smoky
Post by: fishmerf on October 07, 2010, 10:28:00 PM
Fred,
Awesome deer. Congratulations.
I have known Smokey since I was a boy. There isn't a nicer more genuine guy out there. He used to give me deer and coon urine when I first started hunting. I always liked getting gifts from him. I love to hear success stories involving his lure. It is great to see him...and you doing so well.

Merf