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Title: "Wennie Black Widow"
Post by: Apadaka on September 30, 2010, 06:21:00 PM
I am a firm believer that a well placed shot with a light poundage bow will be lethal even on big game, such as our elk up here. Sounds good conceptually, but please reinforce the notion that a 46# bow and a 550gr arrow will do the job. I need some confidence.
Thanks,
Randy
Title: Re: "Wennie Black Widow"
Post by: Bill Carlsen on September 30, 2010, 06:40:00 PM
Just posted these on a similar thread. My wife shoots 46# @ 26", 500 grain Beman MFX 500 arrow with 200 grains of Muzzy 4 blade Phantoms. Two holes on both animals.

 (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a322/Arrowworks/Bearlo2.jpg)

 (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a322/Arrowworks/Lauras1stbuck.jpg)
Title: Re: "Wennie Black Widow"
Post by: Yellow Dog on September 30, 2010, 06:58:00 PM
Stack em three deep and you'll shoot thru all of them. No need to worry at all  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: "Wennie Black Widow"
Post by: rastaman on September 30, 2010, 07:01:00 PM
Search 1 (http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=091142#000012)  

   Search 2 (http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=082909;p=1)

Here are a couple of threads from the past year that addressed that question.  If you do a search there are quite a few more, but this should get you started.   :)
Title: Re: "Wennie Black Widow"
Post by: seabass on September 30, 2010, 07:21:00 PM
go for it brother,steve
Title: Re: "Wennie Black Widow"
Post by: Apadaka on October 01, 2010, 06:37:00 PM
Good re-inforcement for those who have had to gravitate to lighter bows.
Title: Re: "Wennie Black Widow"
Post by: stickhead on October 01, 2010, 06:53:00 PM
Mike Treadway was telling me he killed a bull elk with a 41# bow not sure what hiss arrow weight was  or what kind of broad head he used but I think he said the broad head came out the other side and did not go that far.
Title: Re: "Wennie Black Widow"
Post by: Ragnarok Forge on October 01, 2010, 07:50:00 PM
The key is hitting the right spot if you can do that 40 lbs is plenty.  Take a long shot, a bad angle shot or have the animal spin at the shot and then things can go wrong quick.
Title: Re: "Wennie Black Widow"
Post by: Morning Star on October 01, 2010, 08:54:00 PM
46lbs in the exact spot will do the job.

but.......


I don't "buy" the "right spot" and light bows theory I see so many people on these trad sites endorsing.  
People need to use equipement that will handle "any" spot.  Bowhunting doesn't always end in "the right spot" for whatever reasons.  BS aside and brutal honesty.....the right spot doesn't happen as often as people say it does.....twenty-some years of following trails of compound and traditional shooters tells me this.
Title: Re: "Wennie Black Widow"
Post by: widow sax on October 02, 2010, 12:33:00 AM
I was just in Co on a elk hunt were two guys killed elk with 41lbs and the other had 49@28 do not know his draw both used 630gr arrows worked like a champ.   Widow
Title: Re: "Wennie Black Widow"
Post by: Smallwood on October 02, 2010, 10:56:00 PM
http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=094489
Title: Re: "Wennie Black Widow"
Post by: SteveB on October 03, 2010, 08:21:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Morning Star:
46lbs in the exact spot will do the job.

but.......


I don't "buy" the "right spot" and light bows theory I see so many people on these trad sites endorsing.  
People need to use equipement that will handle "any" spot.  Bowhunting doesn't always end in "the right spot" for whatever reasons.  BS aside and brutal honesty.....the right spot doesn't happen as often as people say it does.....twenty-some years of following trails of compound and traditional shooters tells me this.
So hunters that can only handle 40# effectively shouldn't hunt?
Title: Re: "Wennie Black Widow"
Post by: coaster500 on October 03, 2010, 09:29:00 AM
My punny weight 45@28 and 43@27 at my draw, 489 grain GT 3555, 200gr up front, 19-20% FOC, single bevel and a pass thru?

 http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=093743

 (http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/2010%20Bear%20Hunt%20Idaho/2010BearhuntIdaho002.jpg)
Title: Re: "Wennie Black Widow"
Post by: RkyMtn Joe on October 03, 2010, 09:38:00 AM
Perhaps hunters who can only handle lower poundages effectively (for one reason or another) should carefully/honestly consider WHAT they will hunt with lower poundage bows.  

Wouldn't that be the moral/ethical/responsible thing to do?
Title: Re: "Wennie Black Widow"
Post by: coaster500 on October 03, 2010, 09:39:00 AM
I am new to Traditional but with questions and encouragement from other members here I hunt with what my joints can handle.

Jim AKA LITTLEBIGMAN, posted game taken with mid 40's bows.....Note one of them is a Moose. Have fun shoot straight   :)  

Check his pictures ....

  http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=094271;p=10#000141
Title: Re: "Wennie Black Widow"
Post by: Widowbender on October 03, 2010, 10:52:00 AM
Traditional equipment in general has limitations...that's part of the challenge of getting closer to game. The different types of equipment within traditional bowhunting can further limit the effective range. Whether its longbow, recurve, selfbow...carbon, wood, aluminum, cane etc. arrows...single bevel, double bevel, two, three, four blade, steel or stone or glass heads...the choices are almost endless. The poundage of the bow you choose is yet another potential limitation. I think its best we all learn how to hunt better, shoot better and get as close as we can. Do our best to make an accurate shot and a quick clean kill. A seventy pound bow wont cover up poor marksmanship for very long. Shoot what you can handle whether its 40# or 100#. Accuracy trumps poundage. Personally I shoot bows in the 50 to 60 pound range best. Thats my choice and I understand the limitations involved. For those oops and unforseen circumstances the best thing is to learn how to follow up and track game.