Working on converting a tall guy from the darkside. He draws 31 with his wheel bow. I think he's gonna draw every bit of 30.
I'm thinking a 64 inch curve at 40 or a few more at 28. I want it to be easy to draw for him plus with that power stroke he should more than OK.
What size aluminums will be in the ballpark for a 31 to the bop arrow. I will make sure we get him measured.
All input appreciated
John... hook him up with some 2018's or maybe 2020's
Don't overlook a 66" recurve.
I draw 30 and have no problem with a 60 inch vintage Bear Kodiak Hunter.
When I made the switch 16+ years ago I drew 32" with a compound. When I started shooting sticks I was at 29" and settled in at a comfortable 30" after about 6 months of shooting. 30" might be a little long going from a 31" compound draw, but there are alot of variables.
I have a 60 in 45lb (think it's lost a few lbs over the years) green Kodiak Hunter. I thought it may too short. Might give it a try.
I draw 29.5 and 60" works for me.
I draw 29.5" and I prefer 62" bows. I tend to not shoot under 60" bows well (don't knoe if it is finger pinch or what). 62" is my favorite length.
As far as arrows go, I would say probobly a .500 spine carbon with a lot of weight up front to get it heavy enough to hunt with.
Bisch
Talk to Mike Rash at Ledgens Bows. He has a 31"draw.
I shoot a tornado which is a 60" bow and I draw 30"
Howatt Hunter. 62 inches of smooth out to over 30 inches.
Don't know enough about arrows to comment.
Joshua
I draw 32.5", shoot a 64" BW PMA II, 50# at my draw length. Smooth, no stacking, and no finger pinch.
I shoot 33in. 2216's.
2018 aluminum would be pretty close in a 31 inch arrow for a bow thats around 46#s at 30.
A 64 inch bow would be a good choice IMO.I draw 30 and I shoot 60 inches or longer recurves.Some are gonna work better than other ones do to thier design.I think 62" or longer is a good general rule.I think a longer bow is gonna be easier for a beginner to master as they work on thier form and release.
I'm about the same size as your buddy, and the 2018's work great for me. I leave them full length and have 125 to 145 gr. up front, and they fly really well. As for bows, I've got a 62" MOAB 48@30", and a 66" longbow that is 50@30".
Do your friend a favor and set him up with carbons. Cheaper, straighter, tougher, quieter and should last 20 times longer or more unless he can't find them.LOL
bigjim
Shorter bows are more dificult to shoot. If the man is just starting to shoot trad, do him a favor and get him a longer bow length. I would say 64" no shorter than 62". Longer length bow are easier on the release. Later on he can go to a shorter bow.
Most bowyers have told me to go double your draw or more for bow length? Full length 2018/2020 should be the ticket. Im sure with some tinkering you could get either size to fly straight. Have fun!
Definately agree with Big Jim about the carbons. Unless he's rich and wasteful. They're much better to learn with. I have a 29.5" draw and i'm shooting a 60" Morrison ILF with no problems. 15" riser with "D" limbs. I have a 64" Morrison Dakota that I always teach people to shoot with and for good reason. It's so forgiving on the release and it's only 43# @ 28. IMO the most important thing you can do t help him along the path is give him a 35# bow that is 64"
Those 2018's or 2020's will work, depending on how center cut the riser is and how much weight out front.
The carbons would be a better choice and will last longer.
I draw right at 30" and shoot a 60" longbow with no issues.
However your idea of a 64-66" recurve to get him off to a good start is spot on.
how capable is your friend? Starting him off too low is a waste of time. Find a bow that he can handle "comfortably". there is no need in dropping down to such low weight that it is anemic if he can easily handle more. Contrary to popular belief, bows of too light of draw weight can cause improper form issues too.
Develope all the proper form that you can, shoot tens of thousands of arrows, develope perfect muscle memmory. Now after all of that prep, make an error in form 3 times and it becomes a habbit.
BigJim
I have a long draw too.I build both 60" and 64" recurves.I can shot my 60" ok,but i truly love 64".I would also say go with carbons.I shoot AD lites at full length.My personal recurve is 51# @31" 64".That same bow is 44# @ 28".Good luck, hope this help some.
I have a 64" 58# @ 29 recurve and draw it every bit of 30". You can pretty much go with a full length beman ics hunter shaft in the 300 category. Cheap, easy, and you dont have to cut them with anything. Makes it super easy to put some arrows together.
60" bow 58# @ 31" I shoot a 55-75 tipped with 200 grains. No problems with pinch, I shoot a trees custom and shes smooth all the way back to 31" and my arrows fly like darts.
This guy is a busy guy and barely has time to shoot his CP. I am going to set him up with my low 40's Kodiak Hunter and some alums and let him mess around shooting this year some to see how in to it he gets. After I get a better feel for his interest we can bump up the bow and arrows. I hate to see him short drawing a 58 in curve and screwing up his form from the get go.
Long draw guys def have a diff set of issues to deal with than Joe Average draw length.
Thanks for all the info.