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Title: bareshaft nock right
Post by: Dustin Waters on September 22, 2010, 07:39:00 AM
The same limbs on a new riser is causing a nock right situation when trying to tune with the same arrows it used to love.  Up and down is good but the nock is right.  Is that spine too stiff or spine too weak?  I cant remember.
Title: Re: bareshaft nock right
Post by: thunder1 on September 22, 2010, 08:02:00 AM
Weak spine. Is the riser the same as the old on?
Title: Re: bareshaft nock right
Post by: Prairie Drifter on September 22, 2010, 08:21:00 AM
If your right handed ,too stiff
Title: Re: bareshaft nock right
Post by: Kenneth on September 22, 2010, 08:26:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Prairie Drifter:
If your right handed ,too stiff
yep
Title: Re: bareshaft nock right
Post by: Pete McMiller on September 22, 2010, 08:40:00 AM
It's my understanding that it makes no difference where your nock ends up.  It's where the arrow impacts the target and it's relationship to your fletched shafts.  I followed this advice when bare shafting this summer and got good results doing it.

If you think about it, it makes sense because there is nothing on the back end of your bare shaft to steer it so the nock end could be anywhere.  Also what effect does they type of target have on where the nock ends up?

If your point is right of your fletched shafts it would indicate a weak spine if you are shooting right handed.
Title: Re: bareshaft nock right
Post by: Dustin Waters on September 22, 2010, 10:44:00 AM
which is it, stiff or weak?
Title: Re: bareshaft nock right
Post by: JRY309 on September 22, 2010, 11:06:00 AM
Like said if your nock is right and you are RH,they are on the stiff side.Try adding some weight to the front end.
Title: Re: bareshaft nock right
Post by: Pete McMiller on September 22, 2010, 11:07:00 AM
Dustin,

Read this:   http://bowmaker.net/index2.htm   There is a whole section on bare shaft tuning.
Title: Re: bareshaft nock right
Post by: chopx2 on September 22, 2010, 11:13:00 AM
deleted by self...i think I diosagree with myself...this is confusing
Title: Re: bareshaft nock right
Post by: Beezer on September 22, 2010, 11:22:00 AM
Well, I guess this proves that everyone has differing opinions on tuning!  I'm reading a 20 page "tutorial" right now on tuning longbows and recurves and it makes sense.  Try  www.bowmaker.net/tuning.htm. (http://www.bowmaker.net/tuning.htm.)   About 20 pages worth of tuning stuff and try it yourself.
Title: Re: bareshaft nock right
Post by: Dusty Nethery on September 22, 2010, 11:23:00 AM
As others have said, your shafts are SHOWING too stiff. However, it could be a false reading if they are too weak. Maybe the new riser is center-cut differently.

My remedy would be to throw some more weight up-front (I'd start with 25 grains) and see if you can pull the nock back towards center. If the increase in weight causes even worse flight, then decrease point weight by 25 grains and try again.
Title: Re: bareshaft nock right
Post by: Dustin Waters on September 22, 2010, 12:34:00 PM
screw it, the bareshaft hits in the same group as the fletched arrows and I have killed many a deer with this set up so Im going with it.  Im sure its close enough to count right?
Title: Re: bareshaft nock right
Post by: Dusty Nethery on September 22, 2010, 02:29:00 PM
It may be close enough.

However, I've found the bareshaft planing method to be useless at less than 20 yards. I can get any arrow to group with fletched shafts at 20 yards or less. Maybe you should move back and then check your arrow flight?
Title: Re: bareshaft nock right
Post by: Zradix on September 22, 2010, 02:44:00 PM
Try shooting your broadheads on your current arrows.
They will magnify any shaft tuning errors.

Good luck my friend!