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Title: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: bearbowman on September 18, 2010, 12:38:00 AM
Smokey is a new sponsor on the site. Check him out

http://smokeysdeerlure.com

I got a bottle each of Smokey's Preorbital and some of the Interdigital gland and fixed up a licking branch along the edge of a field. The branch was a low hanging White Oak. I dipped a twig in the bottle and smeared the lure on the lowest area of the branch and put the twig in my pocket. I took another twig and dipped it in the Interdigital and smeared that in the grass below the branch. Realize this is an unmowed pasture field and look at the pics I took 8 days later. Unfortunately I do not have any trailcam pics from this scrape because some piece of garbage stole my camera. I will add some that came from another branch I have going. I took these pictures on September 15 here in northern West Virginia. If you want to know what bucks you have in an area just start a licking branch like this. I have had bucks visiting mine regularly since late August(from my other branch)

 (http://home.comcast.net/~kbsmith9/smokey3.jpg)  
 (http://home.comcast.net/~kbsmith9/smokey4.jpg)    
 (http://home.comcast.net/~kbsmith9/smokey5.jpg)  
 (http://home.comcast.net/~kbsmith9/smokey6.jpg)
See the heavy scrape on the left? There is one on the right too but there is still a faint one in
the middle. The entire area of about 7 foot wide is pretty torn up.
 (http://home.comcast.net/~kbsmith9/smokey10.jpg)
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: wv lungbuster on September 18, 2010, 06:42:00 AM
I've been wanting to try some of Smokys lure myself. Looks like its the real deal.
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: bearbowman on September 18, 2010, 07:47:00 PM
Yeah he has rutting buck and doe in heat too. The Wensels back him all the way. His lure won the Ohio Big Buck three years in a row(thats how us hillbillys say 3 consecutive years)There is a bunch of info on his webpage.
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: straitera on September 18, 2010, 07:56:00 PM
Smokey is the real deal long time trapper. I bought a good bit from him last week. He helped me through it all.
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: wv lungbuster on September 19, 2010, 07:42:00 AM
I'm going to place an order sometime this week.
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: bearbowman on September 20, 2010, 06:39:00 PM
This is a rub on a 2 3/4 to 3" Black Birch tree that is about 100 to 125 yards from the scrape. I took this picture on the same day as I took pics of the scrape......September 15th.  
  (http://home.comcast.net/~kbsmith9/smokey11.jpg)
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: bearbowman on October 08, 2010, 02:46:00 PM
3 weeks to go!
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: 2treks on October 08, 2010, 04:53:00 PM
Looks like you are ready Steve.3 more weeks eh? you ought to have worked into a frenzy by then.
I just called Smokey. Left a msg.
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on October 08, 2010, 06:52:00 PM
G'day Steve! Good luck, mate!
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: Greyfox54 on October 08, 2010, 07:43:00 PM
Steve took your advice a couple weeks back and ordered some , got a dandy 10 first night out , had put the lure at a scrape 2 days earlier . Now not only are you the "Bowmaster " but I"ll remember you as the "Deer Master" also , thanks , Fred
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: bearbowman on October 10, 2010, 09:10:00 PM
Fred great story! Glad you got to wack a dandy. Once they start comin to the scrape traffic just keeps growing.
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: crotch horn on October 11, 2010, 08:26:00 AM
Can't wait to see how it goes at my place. I put some preorbital out and had a small 6 point buck come in the first night. Hope the traffic continues and the bigger boys show up.
Good luck.
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: nybowman on October 11, 2010, 08:50:00 AM
I just ordered some. I can't wait to give it a try. I've heard alot of good stuff about his lures.
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: joebuck on October 11, 2010, 10:57:00 AM
Check out his Female Coon Cover Scent. Fresh stuff that doesn't have the strong male scent. He's only guy out there doing it. It's not on his web site so call ole Smokey!
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: fishone on October 11, 2010, 01:31:00 PM
I just ordered some. Can't wait to try it.
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: bearbowman on October 20, 2010, 12:32:00 AM
Time for a bump. I have 264 pictures off of one licking branch in two months. This isn't even the good one that I started the post with. I never got any of those pics because of the camera thief. This one is about tore up too. ANYWHERE you start a licking branch all the bucks will pound it. It appears the same buck hit this three out of four nights in the following pics.
    (http://home.comcast.net/~kbsmith9/tradgangscrape.jpg)
    (http://home.comcast.net/~kbsmith9/smokeyscrapebuck2.jpg)
      (http://home.comcast.net/~kbsmith9/smokeytwobucks101010.jpg)
      (http://home.comcast.net/~kbsmith9/smokeylick.jpg)
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: pacopperhead on October 20, 2010, 12:37:00 AM
this stuff is stirring curiosity in me i may have to get some to try!!
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: bearbowman on October 21, 2010, 10:31:00 PM
Got my dates screwed up on my camera but this is from the 13th to the 18th. You see there were two bucks in the scrape in 22 minutes.
   (http://home.comcast.net/~kbsmith9/smokeycheck1.jpg)  
   (http://home.comcast.net/~kbsmith9/smokeycheck2.jpg)  
   (http://home.comcast.net/~kbsmith9/smokeycheck3.jpg)  
   (http://home.comcast.net/~kbsmith9/smokeycheck4.jpg)  
   (http://home.comcast.net/~kbsmith9/smokeycheck5.jpg)  
   (http://home.comcast.net/~kbsmith9/smokeycheck6.jpg)
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: Guru on October 22, 2010, 06:02:00 AM
I "doctored up" several scrapes this past week after getting my Smokey's...I should be able to check most of them this weekend.

Only one has a camera on it though...
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: Bill Carlsen on October 22, 2010, 11:11:00 AM
Curt...you need more cameras. Laura has her eyes set on a pretty eight pointer so I ordered some of the scent. Hope it works for her as I normally don't pay scents too much regard. If this stuff works I'll be the first to say I was wrong about them. I'm getting some of the pre-orbital and whatever the other one is called. Hopefully it will get here in a few days. Next week's weather looks like it is going to be wet so it may be a while before I can say much about it. Good luck to you all, in any event.
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: wapiti792 on October 22, 2010, 12:58:00 PM
I just ordered some. I have a noctural hard-headed 5 or 6 year old buck on my farm. So far nothing but trail cam pics at MIDNIGHT! I have tried to kill him for 2 years. If it works I'm sending in a testimonial  :)  

(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/ICAM0001.jpg)
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: J-dog on October 22, 2010, 01:54:00 PM
I am going to go chack trail cam pics this evening and put in a hunt (finally) I know I wont have those kinds of bruiser but hopefully some of my little scrambles have taken notice to the lure and mock scrape.

J
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: Terry Green on October 22, 2010, 03:39:00 PM
I quit using scents YEARS ago.....but after talking to Smokey and hearing Fred's and other's stories....I"m going to put it to work this weekend and see what happens.

Thanks for sharing....

T
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: Guru on October 22, 2010, 09:12:00 PM
This was a very active scrape that I;ve gotten a whole lotta buck pix from.

This past Monday evening I doctored it up with some Smokey's pre-orbital and inter-digital....

Went back today to hunt it, but the wind was swirling too much so I got out of there early. I noticed right away the scrape doubled in size.

All the pix still at night...but 3 of the four bucks I got were new bucks. Add them to the 6-8 other bucks I've got pix of at this scrape!!

•  (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/curt/DSC_0005stc.JPG)

This is a buck I've gotten only one other time at this scrape. He's the biggest of the bunch I think...
•  (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/curt/DSC_0014stc.JPG)

Got a velvet pic of this buck in early Sept....but first pic at this scrape...
•  (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/curt/DSC_0020stc.JPG)

This is new 8pt. that I hadn't gotten a picture of...
•  (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/curt/DSC_0022stc.JPG)

Can't say if the Smokey's made a difference, but it certainly didn't hurt things!!!! I have no doubt this stuff works!!

There's 3-4 shooter bucks, and a half doz. smaller bucks tearing the place up....scapes all over the place!

I pulled the camera, and like a fool forgot my Smokey's so I couldn't work the scrapes again.

But sometime this weekend I'll get in and juice up a few.

Heading to another place tomorrow to hunt and check some scrapes I doctored up on Wednesday     :pray:
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: Toecutter on October 27, 2010, 04:27:00 PM
Been watching this one, Any new thoughts or pics?

Nathan
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: bearbowman on October 27, 2010, 04:46:00 PM
Have not been able to check my camera. Too busy at school. Maybe in a few days I will have some more pics.
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: bearbowman on July 24, 2012, 01:46:00 PM
A bump with more pics. New ones soon enough.

  (http://home.comcast.net/~kbsmith9/check20.jpg)

  (http://home.comcast.net/~kbsmith9/check21.jpg)
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: team fudd on July 24, 2012, 03:31:00 PM
It looks like this stuff is very effective at bringing deer  into the scrapes, but it seems they are only coming in at night as evidenced by your pictures.  That is typical of scrape activity without the lure, just wondered if anyones sightings had increased during the day when you could actually shoot the deer making the scrape?  Looks to be effective  but if they are not coming in during the day with increasing frequency then it will not do me much good.  Very interested to hear your replies.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: bearbowman on July 24, 2012, 03:58:00 PM
Sure they come in earlier too. If you search other posts on Smokeys you will see harversts that others contributed to Smokeys. Its like a fella thats gonna go out on a Friday night and hit the bars. You leave at a certain time and you are going to go to the bars that have the greatest attraction first(whatever her name might be........or their names)The preorbital established a licking branch and with a camera on it you can usually get all the critters in your area on the camera. Gives you an inventory. It almost always turns into a breeding scrape and I have seen the same buck check it three out of four days.
  (http://home.comcast.net/~kbsmith9/early1.jpg)
  (http://home.comcast.net/~kbsmith9/early2.jpg)
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: Herdbull on July 24, 2012, 04:32:00 PM
The big bucks should come in more frequent to keep track of subordinate bucks, but everything seems to work better if you already have strong competion and a good age structure. Even in the best senario we have found that 75% of the buck visits to scrapes are after dark. The use of the preorbital lure will in a sense add more competition (you are a pseudo-deer) at the scrape. I like to start up mock scrapes near my treestand or in an area of deer travel that I can easily set one. So in their quest for dominace, a mature buck will not stand for this "disrespect" and he may frequent this new scrape more. There is a narrow window when your odds have increased.
 (http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff289/MittenM/hero/CDY_0011.jpg)
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: Herdbull on July 24, 2012, 04:35:00 PM
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff289/MittenM/hero/CDY_0025.jpg)
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: Herdbull on July 24, 2012, 04:36:00 PM
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff289/MittenM/hero/wmlicking.jpg)
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: jonsimoneau on July 24, 2012, 04:37:00 PM
Smokers is good stuff and it does work. Another product that Don Higgins turned me on to is deer dirt. Look it up. I don't hunt over it but when used in conjunction with smokeys I am able to get a camtracker pic of every buck in the area!  It's nice to know what's out there!
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: Herdbull on July 24, 2012, 04:37:00 PM
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff289/MittenM/hero/w-buck-2006.jpg)
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: jonsimoneau on July 24, 2012, 04:55:00 PM
Mike I passed on a buck that was very similar to that last one you posted two seasons ago!   What cuddeback is it you are using?  Is it one of the old ones? Before the no flash models or the new ones?
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: bearbowman on July 24, 2012, 05:25:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Herdbull:
 (http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff289/MittenM/hero/w-buck-2006.jpg)
Wow theres an old war veteran. If a fella was to take that deer he would have a real trophy. Thats has to be a wise old buck.
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: Herdbull on July 24, 2012, 09:32:00 PM
The is one of the old flash CB.  I have been using the Acorn cameras as of late.

Yes that buck was on our land for a while. Part of his skull was cracked and healed over. The next year(see pic below) he was prety heavy but still messed up. I found him dead from unknown cause after that picture. Mike
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff289/MittenM/hero/w-buck2005.jpg)
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: Herdbull on July 24, 2012, 09:35:00 PM
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff289/MittenM/hero/w-buck2007.jpg)
Im sorry , I found him dead following this pic. The second picture was actually the year before the firtst picture looking straight on. Mike
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: bill langer on July 25, 2012, 11:26:00 AM
Smokeys is the real deal!!
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: meathead on July 25, 2012, 03:15:00 PM
Bill has got that right.  The real deal indeed.  I just started using it last season but had great responses.
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: docmerrow on July 25, 2012, 05:17:00 PM
I dunno I have been using smokey's scent for the first time this year.. I did it by the book and haven't had much success. I had numerous year around scraps that are hit and didn't get much action with the pre-orbital and interdigital scents.. Not dishing smokey scents at all.. I just thought I would have more action preseason. I am sure the stuff works great pre rut.. Any recommendations?
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: Barry Wensel on July 25, 2012, 09:24:00 PM
Brother Gene has been working on a brand new technique using Smokeys lures that's been bringing unbelieveable results. He recently wrote Part one of a two part article that is supposed to be published in an upcoming Bowhunter Magazine soon. This is NOT a paid endorsement, just one bowhunter helping out others. I predict Smokey will soon be selling a pile of scents and deserves credit for his excellent work. BW
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: jonsimoneau on July 25, 2012, 11:22:00 PM
Can't wait to hear what uncle gene has to say!
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: jonsimoneau on July 26, 2012, 05:39:00 AM
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: bearbowman on July 27, 2012, 08:51:00 PM
Yeah Smokey just lives a few miles down the road from me. I always push his products because they
work. The preorbital is an incredible lure. I have been using the same bottle for three years.
Yeah its $20 but look how long it lasts unless you are running 20 or 30 cameras a bottle will last you many seasons.
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: Zbone on August 04, 2012, 01:54:00 PM
"His lure won the Ohio Big Buck three years in a row"

Ummmmm, curious - have lived in Ohio most of my life but haven't a clue what that statement means???
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: MCS on August 04, 2012, 04:29:00 PM
Are smokeys lures synthetic.
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: bearbowman on August 10, 2012, 10:01:00 PM
No way. He cuts them all out and processes the glands. I absolutely know that for a fact. He has a passel of processors locally that he has trained on how to take out the glands and how to preserve them. Nothing artifical about that.
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: calgarychef on August 11, 2012, 03:09:00 AM
If it's not artificial it brings the thought of spreading CWD to mind.  I'd have easily tried it if I didn't know that lil' fact, now I'd be reluctant.
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: bearbowman on November 01, 2012, 05:06:00 PM
Well it took me some time to finally run into my microbiology teacher to confirm what I already knew. The prion that causes the CWD and Blue Tongue etc are proteins. When the DNA is extracted from the glands the proteins do not follow. So you cannot introduce the disease into another area by using the lure elsewhere. Besides that you have to have a sample in the first place to replicate it.
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: bearbowman on July 04, 2013, 11:40:00 AM
Time to fire up those cameras.
Title: Re: Smokey's Preorbital Results After Only 8 Days
Post by: VA Bowbender on July 04, 2013, 03:52:00 PM
Well I'm going to try it again this season as soon as I find time to get the cameras out. I used the preorbital last season without very much success. I'm not saying its not good it might just be my areas.