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Title: silent longbow advice
Post by: mand0ralen on September 16, 2010, 03:12:00 PM
hello !

i have never been a fan of string silencers, bruch buttons, limsavers etc ...

I really think that they suck your bow performance.

I am actually looking for a longbow(#40-45@28) that is silent out of the box, just with a string on ... nothing added !
(i am using Aero Fligt from brownell by the way)

If you know an US bowyer famous for its silent longbow, just let me know with a little reply on this post.

Best regards

M
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: Brad_Gentry on September 16, 2010, 03:14:00 PM
I would venture to say that the quietest one, with nothing on the string, is going to be a straight limbed [or string follow] Hill-style bow.
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: on September 16, 2010, 03:24:00 PM
Miller all bamboo with a heavier than needed string by a strand or two with good wax.  The quietest bow I have ever seen, with good speed to boot.
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: Pete McMiller on September 16, 2010, 03:24:00 PM
From my limited experience with three longbows.  The quietest longbows are those with skinny strings.  I have two straight limb bows, a Big River and a Hill Big Five and both of them have become much quieter with an 8 strand, padded loop 8125 string. The other bow a R/D Big River was pretty quiet already but that too was helped with an 8 strand 8125 string.  I don't have silencers on any of them any more.

The bow that was the most amazing was the Hill Big Five.  It was like holding a tuning fork when I shot it with a Dacron string.  Put on the skinny string and you wouldn't have even suspected that it was the same bow - it was that much quieter and of course much less hand shock as well.
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: on September 16, 2010, 03:27:00 PM
My pignut hickory flat limb is just as quiet as the all bamboo I got to shoot and surprisingly quick, now that I have properly dried and sealed and tillered it just right.
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: bentpole on September 16, 2010, 04:48:00 PM
MOHAWK!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on September 16, 2010, 05:06:00 PM
I don't use any silencers with my Hill Wesley Special.
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: Longbow338 on September 16, 2010, 05:32:00 PM
Morrison's are deadly quiet.  I used to think that silencers rob your bow of performance until I did some extensive testing with chrono.   With a six strand SBD string with acrylic puffs gained 5fps over a standard string with no silencers and deadly silent.  just a thought.
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: kbetts on September 16, 2010, 05:42:00 PM
Kimsha Mattawoman or Mattawoman II.  I have itty bitty acrylic/wool puffs on mine that are almost gone.  I don't think I need them anyway.
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: hunterbob on September 16, 2010, 05:49:00 PM
Dave Beelers longbows.one of the quietest longbows I ever shot and I have shot a pile of them.
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on September 16, 2010, 06:01:00 PM
I wouldn't discount a Northern Mist. Good price, good quiet bows. I shot behind a fella at a 3-d shoot and he had a bare string and the bow made a wisp when he let it go. Wood arrows help of course.
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: Butch Speer on September 16, 2010, 06:34:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Pete McMiller:


The bow that was the most amazing was the Hill Big Five.  It was like holding a tuning fork when I shot it with a Dacron string.  Put on the skinny string and you wouldn't have even suspected that it was the same bow - it was that much quieter and of course much less hand shock as well.
I agree Pete.I have a Big 5. Had a B50 string on it & it had quite a bit of string vibration. Put a 10 strand D97 & the buzz was gone.
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: Spectre on September 16, 2010, 06:41:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by pavan:
My pignut hickory flat limb is just as quiet as the all bamboo I got to shoot and surprisingly quick, now that I have properly dried and sealed and tillered it just right.
+1
My Gila is whisper quiet with a flemish twist string.
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: aroadik on September 16, 2010, 07:09:00 PM
Just finished a "non traditional longbow" Quinn riser, Das connection plate's and Sky carbon/foam r/d longbow limbs with Das connections. Hunting quiet and very good shooter ! cheers Pete
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: Zbone on September 16, 2010, 07:14:00 PM
The quietest bow I've ever not heard was a selfbow crafted by Jamie Miller.
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: whipbow on September 16, 2010, 08:22:00 PM
Toelke Whipbows...
They dont need anything and are very very quiet.
montanabows.com
Carl
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: Steelhead on September 16, 2010, 09:46:00 PM
GN Bushbow or Critter Gitter.

Alot of longbows are gonna be very quiet with the bare minumum of silencers attached to the string.That wont rob your bows performance hardly at all!!!A couple very small puffs or cat whiskers cut in half.Then cut one of those sections in half and install.Hardly adds any weight to the string at all.

Your gonna get a little bit of string buzz on almost any bow without string silencers.
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: chopx2 on September 16, 2010, 09:52:00 PM
If you are worried about noise then I would also work on your arrows.

Heavier arrows are quieter off the bow as we all know

Also feathers are noisy and the bigger and more twist the noisier. Don't discount the impact. Stand down range somewhere safe and listen to big 5" helicals or worse flu flus litterally sound like they are ripping the air.

Also vented broadheads are noisier than solid blades.

Well tuned EFOC arrows need much less feathers to fly and is a good way to quiet your set-up
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: TxAg on September 16, 2010, 11:43:00 PM
Another vote for Toelke.

I have rubber cat whiskers on my string, but I probably don't need them as I shoot a heavy enough arrow. Quick and quiet..that sums up a Toelke.
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: Cherokee Scout on September 17, 2010, 01:24:00 AM
I have shot many different longbows. One of the quietest I know is the BlackCreek Bows by Jim Gainey. He is a Sponsor on this site.
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: carpenter on September 17, 2010, 05:37:00 AM
sunset hill, no silencers
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: Zmonster on September 17, 2010, 07:57:00 AM
I have owned many of the above stated bows, and they are correct, but right now for me my newest is the quietest I've owned. ACS with the RC riser in 64" #39 with their new SBD string. It DOES NOT NEED SILENCERS. It's just plain silent. Not exaggeration. The string made an enormous difference.
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: ripforce56 on September 17, 2010, 09:00:00 AM
All three of my longbows are straight limbed and I have no silencers on my Silver Creek  and minimal cat wiskers on my Bamas all are very quiet! Feathers and arrow weight does make a real differance! I shot some CX Heritage 350s with high banana cuts and the same arrow with low sheilds and the noise differance was amazing!
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: Arwin on September 17, 2010, 02:22:00 PM
A St. Joe is quiet even with a low brace height.   ;)
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: Jerry Jeffer on September 17, 2010, 02:37:00 PM
With the correct brace height and a well tuned arrow, any decent "D" long bow should be pretty close to silent. no silencers required.
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: shaanar on September 17, 2010, 03:08:00 PM
I just got my Toelke whip 2 weeks ago and straight out of the tube it was as quiet as anything I have ever shot.  He sent it with silencers already on the strings though so I don't know what it would be like without them.  Also, I LOVE the way it looks and feels.
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: Red Tailed Hawk on September 17, 2010, 06:28:00 PM
Ive always found self bows to be the quietest.

My mohawk is pretty quite as well but not so much as my self bow.
Title: Re: silent longbow advice
Post by: mand0ralen on September 18, 2010, 08:47:00 AM
hello,

thank you all for all these advices.

To sum up will narrow my search on:

D shape, straight limbs with a bit of string follow, with a light hi-perf string of very good quality.

best regards.

M