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Title: Stalking and Still hunting
Post by: Joed on September 13, 2010, 01:53:00 AM
with my bow safety course finished I am purchasing
a license this week and about to start hunting for the first time. I know I will have no patience for a tree stand (nor the money to buy one) so I will be attempting to still hunt. I plan to buy G. Fred Asbell's book, but in the meantime what kind of advice do you guys have out there as far as technique clothing and footwear. Thanks!
Title: Re: Stalking and Still hunting
Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on September 13, 2010, 02:03:00 AM
Wear any shoes you like, but just avoid crunchy leaves. Always hunt into the wind. Go slow, like one or two slow steps, then pause for a minute or two to look and listen. No book can really teach you how to do it. You have to make all the mistakes yourself to learn how.
Title: Re: Stalking and Still hunting
Post by: straitera on September 13, 2010, 02:30:00 AM
Just moved to 50 square miles of new woods learning by stillhunting a bunch. Give me 2 weeks off, my favorite bow & arrows, some Bean gumsoles, & a reasonable amount of game & I can guarantee to kill 2 weeks pdq. I've stillhunted deer & hogs but it ain't easy. I wrote what works for me. E-mail me & I'll send it to you.
Title: Re: Stalking and Still hunting
Post by: Eugene Slagle on September 13, 2010, 05:53:00 AM
As you stand & look for sign, look for your next few steps as well to avoid sticks & stuff that may make noise as you step.

I like a relatively soft soled boot that will let me feel the ground a bit, this way if I did miss a stick or something I can feel it before I put a lot of pressure on it.

I'm a bit rusty at Still hunting because I haven't done it in a few years but I'm going to play in the woods come October till January.
Title: Re: Stalking and Still hunting
Post by: GingivitisKahn on September 13, 2010, 06:58:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Joed:
with my bow safety course finished I am purchasing
a license this week and about to start hunting for the first time. I know I will have no patience for a tree stand (nor the money to buy one) so I will be attempting to still hunt. I plan to buy G. Fred Asbell's book, but in the meantime what kind of advice do you guys have out there as far as technique clothing and footwear. Thanks!
Read that book fast and do what Fred says.  He will recommend quiet clothing (wool is a favorite), and soft-soled low-heeled footwear (like the LL Bean Main Hunting Shoe).  Primarily though he will recommend that you sloooooooooow dooooooown.

Get out there and try to stalk a squirrel (or whatever small game is in season where you are).  Then when you blow it, do it again but much more slowly.  Repeat.
Title: Re: Stalking and Still hunting
Post by: slivrslingr on September 13, 2010, 07:08:00 AM
Check the wind frequently and keep it in your face or crossing your body.  If the wind is at your back, it won't matter how slow you move or or what you wear, you'll only see deer running away from you.  Also, be persistent and never give up!  Welcome to the woods and good luck this season!
Title: Re: Stalking and Still hunting
Post by: butler on September 13, 2010, 07:42:00 AM
This may be stating the obvious, but spend time scouting the area you plan to hunt so you are familiar with the deer movement in the area. (just like stand hunting). Good small 8X BINOs will earn their keep. I have found many ears, tails, eyes looking through the binos within 60 -70 yards of the deer. Still hunting is challenging, hard work, and requires maximum focus, but when the hard work pays off, the sense of accomplishment is the greatest. Good hunting.
Title: Re: Stalking and Still hunting
Post by: Celtic Dragon on September 13, 2010, 08:03:00 AM
A good way of practicing I have found is to go out with the camera during closed season.

The techniques are the same, and you get a good day out, plus as you get better you get good pics. You could do this and combine scouting too.
Title: Re: Stalking and Still hunting
Post by: steadman on September 13, 2010, 08:25:00 AM
As said earlier, when you think you are going slow enough, slow down more. Look a lot with binocs, even close. Good luck!
Title: Re: Stalking and Still hunting
Post by: centaur on September 13, 2010, 08:32:00 AM
I don't care to count how many times I have been busted because I haven't been moving slowly enough. Last week, when hunting elk, I had my head up my butt and spooked a giant mule deer because I took my eye off the ball for a second. You can't go too slow!
Title: Re: Stalking and Still hunting
Post by: mcgroundstalker on September 13, 2010, 08:56:00 AM
Hey Joe... try to get hold of an old video tape by Mike Lapinski called "Eye Level Bucks". This will give you the low down about stalking and still hunting deer.

Best Of Luck To You!

... mike ...  :archer:  ...
Title: Re: Stalking and Still hunting
Post by: KEG on September 13, 2010, 12:31:00 PM
Move very slow into the wind, take your time. You must see the deer before they see you. Wear soft soled shoes. Try not to silhouette. When stopping to glass stand next to or behind trees etc. Try not to be in the open.
Title: Re: Stalking and Still hunting
Post by: 44charlie on September 13, 2010, 01:50:00 PM
Not all cover is suited for stillhunting! Too thick you can shoot! Too open you'll never get close! And I second what was said earlier about knowing the basic deer movement patterns. No sense hunting where they aint!
Seeing deer at 40 yards isn't too hard to do but closing the gap to less than 20 will test you!

Good luck and have fun!
Title: Re: Stalking and Still hunting
Post by: flintznstyx on September 13, 2010, 08:05:00 PM
When moving step toe first not heal. If u feel somthing under your foot u can stop.
Title: Re: Stalking and Still hunting
Post by: on September 13, 2010, 08:44:00 PM
if you dont have the patients to sit a stand you might not have enough for still huntin, good luck
Title: Re: Stalking and Still hunting
Post by: Joed on September 13, 2010, 09:09:00 PM
Agreed, I just need to be moving once in a while. Thanks for all the info guys, heading out in the woods these past few days and spotting lots of deer got some good spots to hide along game trails though. Staying optimistic
Title: Re: Stalking and Still hunting
Post by: kill shot on September 13, 2010, 09:34:00 PM
I read an artical in a magazine called "The man who could touch deer". I believe the guy teaches some sort of survival school out in Pennsylvania. It was very interesting to me as I love to still hunt. He says that he takes a step every 1.5 minutes.I wish I could remember his name. Anyone out there know? I have the Fred Asbell book on still hunting if you would like to borrow it.
Title: Re: Stalking and Still hunting
Post by: Ragnarok Forge on September 14, 2010, 12:46:00 AM
Slow down! Then slow down some more.   I still hunt all the time.  I never sit in a tree.  Move slow, look every where and be ready to make your first kill.  Still hunting is very effective once you get the hang of it.
Title: Re: Stalking and Still hunting
Post by: ishoot4thrills on September 14, 2010, 06:15:00 AM
Why not try taking a fold-up seat along with you, that has a carrying strap attached to it, and strap it across your shoulder/back and sit behind a cedar tree for about 20 minutes in a good spot. Then still hunt to the next likely looking spot and sit there for a while, etc? Also, I recommend still hunting through a cedar thicket with lots of broomsage weeds with scattered scrub oaks. You can move around much quieter than you could in a hardwood forest, especially after the morning frost starts to melt away.
Title: Re: Stalking and Still hunting
Post by: magnus on September 14, 2010, 06:22:00 AM
I lesson I've learned after many years and mistakes is to scan every inch of your surroundings thoroughly even up close!!! It really sucks when you stand for a while and then you make a move and a nice buck jumps from his bed 15 yards away!!! Yeah sounds crazy but it can happen. Especially when hunting a new spot. Remember deer can and will lay down anywhere. Good luck and enjoy the journey. That's really what it's all about.

Magnus
Title: Re: Stalking and Still hunting
Post by: 59Alaskan on September 14, 2010, 06:28:00 AM
I used to think I didn't have the patience to sit in a blind/stand, but to me still hunting requires much more patience than the above mentioned.  You've committed yourself to move around, but you really should be only covering 100 yards in 30 minutes or longer depending on a variety of circumstances.

I do enjoy still hunting.  It's a ton of fun, but don't get fooled thinking it's not a bunch of standing still and watching, listening etc...

You do never know what will happen when.  You have to be 100% mentally alert and if you think you're moving slow enough, you likely are not.
Title: Re: Stalking and Still hunting
Post by: Mint on September 14, 2010, 10:18:00 AM
I think ishootforthrills gave you the best advice. The connecticutt woods can be like the long island woods were i hunt and they are not made for stalking. First, the leaves are so noisy you get busted easily and second the woods are crowded so you are going to blow someones stand hunt more often than not. What i have down is go to a goodtrail , like you said you found and set up and wait for awhile. Then when you have to move stalk slowly to your next spot. This has worked for me.
Title: Re: Stalking and Still hunting
Post by: on September 14, 2010, 12:54:00 PM
If I really want to get serious, I get completely off sugar and caffeine.  If I do not have the patience to scan every thing with my binos, I know that I have to just sit.  If there are a lot of other hunter in the woods, I go to where they never do.  Areas that do not have any place to put tree stands. Then I still hunt until I find the right wind conditions, cover, and deer sign, then I stop and sit tight.
I had a lucky tree stand years back.  I put it way back.  I left my truck at first hunting light and I still hunted all the way to the stand.  I took food with me so I could hunt later in the day. when I left it I still hunted all the way back to the truck.  I got my deer every year while sneaking back and forth to that stand and never got one good chance while sitting in the stand.
Title: Re: Stalking and Still hunting
Post by: ChuckC on September 14, 2010, 12:56:00 PM
Moving slow means moving half the speed you thought was slow before.

We tend to move too fast and not even realize it.  I had a great lesson from a 3' garter snake that was hunting in a bush that was the side of one of my ground blinds.  He was elevated, in the bush and moved so slowly you almost couldn't see it move.  

He was only three or four feet away from me and I watched him for about an hour.  The amount of time it took him to go about five feet.
ChuckC