Hey everyone, I almost lost an arrow that climbed to the top of a tree after I shot a squirrel with it today. (It has taken me almost 3 years to hit one!) As exciting as it was to finally connect, I was not to fond at the idea of loosing an expensive arrow.
My question is: How far do blunts penetrate? Would it penetrate a squirrel? If so, what is the smallest game that it would not usually penetrate (raccoon, fox, coyote)?
Thanks,
mh
With rubber blunts, it's not about penetration so much as blunt force trama. It litterally knocks the crap out of them.
That is exactly what I want. Actually, I am going for zero penetration. Do you think I will get zero penetration with a 57lb recurve shooting about 10gpi?
Matthew
Small game point and flu-flu, it dont get much better than that!
Gongrats on da Kill!!!
I've never been happy with the performance of rubber blunts on anything except stumps and will not shoot at an animal with them. For the record, I'm shooting around 58# @ 30+". I'm not fond of judos either.
I use regular steel blunts or hex heads and get as full penetration as possible. Usually that means anchoring the rabbit or tree rat to the ground.
Anything bigger than a rabbit (and those too if I'm not hunting over dogs) gets a broadhead though.
I wouldn't take anything other than a head shot with a rubber blunt and only small game like a tree rat or rabbit.
I generally use a 50# recurve, usually a Bear three piece take down, but have also used a Hoyt Gamemaster 1 and a few others recurves.
I have shot a lot of tassel ear squirrels with steel screw blunts and rubber blunts on aluminum arrows.
I generally use wood arrows with a 125 grain steel blunt as they are cheaper to lose. I usually spray paint the shafts some fluoresent color like orange or yellow so I can find the missed shots.
I really have not lost very many arrows in over 30 years of hunting squirrels. Perhaps a couple of dozen????
Good luck.
Charles.
I got a full passthrough on every bunny I shot with a Saunder's bludgeon, from 55 to 60 lbs.
I've used rubber blunts with 50+# bows. Usually no penetration, just a loud thud, and the squirrel rolls over. Sometimes dead, sometimes not.
With a flu flu I've had the squirrel run around the tree and watch it hit a foot below it, where it was when I took the shot. They're fast. :archer2:
I wouldn't use rubber blunts on squirrels. They are too tough. You might kill some but not consistently. I would use steel blunts or for a cheap head try 357 magnum cases. A broadhead would also work. Gary
1/2" x 1/4 fender washer behind your point(1/4" is the hole size). Travis
If your shooting straight up at squirrels; your really better off with rubber blunts- what goes up...
I use rubber blunts on grouse and rabbits and rattlesnakes with excellent results.
If you want more umph - then put the rubber blunt over a metal blunt.
Don't put a rubber blunt over a target or field point- it will penetrate the rubber blunt.
I hunt in rocky country; and rubber blunts allow your arrow to survive if you miss.
Rubber blunts are not intended for tough critters like marmots and woodchucks; or fox; coyotes etc.
But for birds - they work really well; and rabbits too. I like shooting them while roving; and while hunting- and I feel like taking a shot at a flower or tree.
I shot a 42 " rattlesnake with one yesterday; and it worked just fine.
Ace hexhead for all of your stumping an smallgame needs.
i agree with jeremy about squirrells bein tough. rabbits will run when shot but die pretty quick by my experience. im going to try another tg members methodhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_Gm5Zf9G9g
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Brian has it spot-on! metal blunt with a snug fitting rubber blunt over it gives you s VERY hard hitting small game head!! If your gonna shoot anything bigger carry an old salvaged broadhead in your quiver.
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Good vid also.
I like the 100 grain blunts with the small htm or small blungeon on them. they have done a good job on the small game that I have taken with them. However, the plain old 160 grain steel blunt works good for me as well.
With VPA SGT's you get the best of both worlds!
Don't have to lose "an expensive arrow" . Make up some cheap woodies and have at it!Squirrel hunting with a bow is a blast !
Carry one in your quiver when hunting deer .
Cool link! Daniel always amazes me with his talents and skills.
God bless,Mudd
I like nutters for squirrels. Never had one stick in a tree but it will devastate a squirrel. I leave about 1/4" of the tapered shaft sticking out the forward end of the nut then coat with super glue to harden the tip and secure the nut.
I have shot squirrels with judos at close range and the squirrel ran up the tree never to be seen again. I never had luck with rubber blunts.
Manny Pedroski from Hawaii used a big rubber blunt that he castellated the forward end of and had excellent kill power on mongoose. I believe he posted pics of his set up here a few years ago. Do a search.
QuoteOriginally posted by broketooth:
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You put Method into the part of the link.
Here ya go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_Gm5Zf9G9g
My small game head is just a field point & one of these.
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?id=0018891411445a&navCount=1&podId=0018891&parentId=cat600306&masterpathid=&navAction=jump&cmCat=MainCatcat214 24-cat600306&catalogCode=IA&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat600306&hasJS=true (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?id=0018891411445a&navCount=1&podId=0018891&parentId=cat600306&masterpathid=&navAction=jump&cmCat=MainCatcat21424-cat600306&catalogCode=IA&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat600306&hasJS=true)
that video just gave me some ideas. Thanks for posting that.