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Title: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: Mojo Rising on September 12, 2010, 04:36:00 PM
I see them on some risers and was wondering the pros and cons?
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: Tajue17 on September 12, 2010, 04:45:00 PM
don't like them,,,, I even tried them with my own finger pattern and still didn't like them--> it constricts me to that one grip position but where I  shoot different positions where my hand on the bow changes a bit or wear gloves it does't feel right to me..
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: caleb7mm on September 12, 2010, 05:01:00 PM
I like it. my dalaa has them. I never notice them unless im gripping the bow wrong. that is the point right?  :)
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: Tom on September 12, 2010, 05:11:00 PM
Don't like them myself but each to their own.
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: Buckeye Trad Hunter on September 12, 2010, 05:14:00 PM
Personal preference thing just like so many other things related to trad shooting.  Only you will know if it's right for you.  you'll have to shoot one with the grooves to see if you like them.
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Post by: joe skipp on September 12, 2010, 05:16:00 PM
Don't like them, I prefer a small thumb rest though. Really gives positive hand placement.
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: ron w on September 12, 2010, 05:59:00 PM
I hate a thumb rest, cut mine off my Mikuta. Finger grooves I kind'a like, my Zipper and my Morrison both have them and that gives me a positive feel. It's a personal thing I guess!
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: Scott S. on September 12, 2010, 06:55:00 PM
I have a Cascade Golden Hawk Mag with a single notch for the index finger along the front outside corner of the riser.  It really seems to help with consistant hand placement.  I'm not a fan of a full set of finger grooves on the back, though.

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/jssanford/Knivesandbows009.jpg)
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: Mojo Rising on September 12, 2010, 07:17:00 PM
Thanks for the replies!
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: Gil on September 12, 2010, 07:29:00 PM
It depends on how you grip your bow, it doesnt matter to people with relaxed bowhands as they dont grip the bow that much for the grooves to be felt.Others have a firm grip on the bow so finger notches provide a reference point for them. I myself shoot olympic style recurves so my bow hand is very relaxed, i really have to close my hands a little just so that the bow wont fall from my hand.If I hold my trad bows like i do in olympic style recurve,I need a sling to catch the bow after my shot.
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: thunder1 on September 12, 2010, 08:07:00 PM
I like the way they look. But I don't use them as I hold my bow with three fingers curled.
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: on September 12, 2010, 08:54:00 PM
I always wondered, what would happen if you needed to change your grip if you had gloves on.  Better than a square back, I think I would just prefer rounded.
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: Irish on September 12, 2010, 09:24:00 PM
Not a big fan of them
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Post by: hawk4570 on September 12, 2010, 10:07:00 PM
I like them
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Post by: ChuckC on September 12, 2010, 10:15:00 PM
My fingers don't touch the back of the bow anyway, 'cept for the thumb and pointer.
ChuckC
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: Jedimaster on September 12, 2010, 11:06:00 PM
I don't like them. They never feel natural or comfortable to me. I like to be able to move my fingers I guess. Grooves distract me and I want to focus on the target - not my bow hand. Can't totally explain it but I strongly dislike the ones I've tried - to the point that I would consider it a deal breaker on a bow.
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: CRS on September 13, 2010, 12:17:00 AM
Strictly a personal preference.

I do not like them.
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: Jon Swanson on September 13, 2010, 12:18:00 AM
I agree it is a preference.  I think that you have them made when you shoot one way.  What if you change your form and the grooves feel off?  Just a thought before you break the grinder out:)
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Post by: straitera on September 13, 2010, 12:41:00 AM
Strickly personal preference. I like straight grips on Hill LB's. Locators front or back bother me.
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Post by: KEG on September 13, 2010, 01:00:00 PM
Don't really like them for all the reasons already posted.
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Post by: bigiron on September 13, 2010, 01:33:00 PM
no way.
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Post by: Turkeys Fear Me on September 13, 2010, 03:37:00 PM
Nope.
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: magnus on September 13, 2010, 03:43:00 PM
My hybrid has them on it and I like it for when I'm carrying the bow still hunting. And such. I shoot with a semi open grip. No preference here.

Magnus
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: YORNOC on September 13, 2010, 03:56:00 PM
I shoot with only my thumb and index finger touching with a horizontal hand, so my fingers never grip the bow. But I will take finger grooves EVERY time.  Cuz they look awesome!
ABSOLUTELY personal preference. You've gotta shoot both and see.
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: Chortdraw on September 13, 2010, 04:51:00 PM
My last recurve I built has the finger groves and it does look real nice but I don't grip my bow so it really is not that important other than more work and a cool look. My other bows all have 2 groves on the opposite side of the grip as I usually shoot with 2 fingers curled under much like Asbel does. The groves give me a natural cant every time and keeps me from griping tightly on the bow and causing torque. I find my groups really change when I don't use this method so the finger groves on my last bow are not used when I shoot except for the top 2. Just my personal opinion but works for me.
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: Chortdraw on September 13, 2010, 05:40:00 PM
IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/Chortdraw/Miscpictures015.jpg[/IMG]
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/Chortdraw/Miscpictures016-1.jpg)
 These are the grips for the curled finger style I use
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: Chortdraw on September 13, 2010, 05:42:00 PM
Miscpictures015.jpg[/IMG]
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: Chortdraw on September 13, 2010, 05:45:00 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/Chortdraw/Miscpictures015.jpg)
try this again?
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: Bowwild on September 13, 2010, 06:51:00 PM
Generally I'm not attracted to them and have no bow with them. To be honest, I've never even held a bow with them so I should reserve judgement. However, I would think it very unlikely a bow with finger grooves would fit the grip I use. If it didn't it wouldn't work for me at all.
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: Bowwild on September 13, 2010, 06:54:00 PM
Now, if a bowyer had a "form" for his riser that someone like me could grip and mark, it might be cool to have the grip made with some slight (non-torque inducing) indents to help me to set the bow hand consistently.

By the way, the more important reference for my hand and the grip is where the lifeline of my bowhand is placed on the grip. I'm thinking about taping a small diameter string in this spot (vertical) to set my lifeline on it the same way every shot.
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: stickbowmaniac on September 13, 2010, 06:55:00 PM
I don't like them and don't need them.
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: owlbait on September 13, 2010, 07:25:00 PM
I like them. I have 2 Zipper recurve and one on order. I notice not having them on other bows, I don't notice the one's on the Zipper while shooting. I like the thumb groove on my Stalker too.
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: Sixby on September 13, 2010, 07:38:00 PM
I build bows both ways. Seems to be a tossup as to how many people like them and how many don't A lot of how they feel is how well they are done. god bless you all, Steve
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: Mojo Rising on September 13, 2010, 08:11:00 PM
Seems like a toss up! Chortdraw, thanks for the photos of the riser never seen one like that before.
Title: Re: Finger grooves in riser - yes or no?
Post by: Ray Hammond on September 13, 2010, 08:37:00 PM
My Zipper standard recurve with finger grooves helped me kill quite a few animals. I've never shot a bow and I've shot hundreds- as well as I do that Zipper...Bob built it for me in 1988 I think..

I retired it this past year and now shoot a Centaur I bought from someone else...you guessed it- with finger grooves.  I shoot it lights out when I have time to practice....I grew up with recurves...high grip, finger grooves and straight wrist give me the most consistent hand placement and follow through on release...

Those are what I need for consistency.

Other people need other things....