Trad Gang

Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Looper on August 26, 2010, 03:18:00 AM

Title: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Looper on August 26, 2010, 03:18:00 AM
I finally got a pic of Mr. Sneaky.  

 (http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad183/wclooper/MDGC0010.jpg)

This dude has been thinning out the neighbor's cats over the last few months.  I left him alone and let him do his thing.  The neighbor won't get her cats fixed, so I'm letting him help with the situation.  Now that the cats are down to a respectable number, he's turned his attention elsewhere.

One night last week, I was out with my Jack Russell, Taku.  It was about 1 am, and, while I shot my bow a little, Taku was doing his business.  He usually zooms around the yard for a while, then comes and "helps" me pull arrows.

This time, though, he didn't come back like usual. I thought maybe he had ventured over to the neighbor's house, so I walked around to the garden to see if I could see him.  Right as I went around the garage, I caught a glimpse of him out in our field.

Our field is lit up slightly by the lights on the neighboring DOT property. You can see fairly well out there and, since Taku is mostly white, he is really visible out there even on the darkest nights.

Anyway, I caught a glimpse of him running around like he was trailing something.  He disappeared behind an equipment trailer.  I was preparing to whistle at him, when I saw something dart out of the shadows toward him.  The next thing I see is a cloud of dust and hear Taku literally screaming.

"Oh, crap!", I yelled and sped over to see if I could save my little buddy.  He was about 140 yards from me at the start, and when I got to about 50, I saw him squared off with a big coyote.

I still had my bow, but it was way to risky to shoot from that far.  Still running, I yelled and the coyote jerked his head toward me and then took off.

Taku came trotting over to me and stood between my legs.  Every hair on his little body was standing on end.  We walked back to the house and he stuck by my ankle like he was velcro'd to me.

When we got inside I inspected him. I expected to see blood everywhere, but to my surprise, he only had a couple of little marks on his neck.  He's definitely a tough little booger.  I think that coyote was expecting something other than 22 lbs of solid muscled fury.

Since then, I've had a couple of close encounters with the coyote.  He stalked out pretty close to my yellow lab twice, but took off when he saw me.  

I think it's time to take him, but I don't know. I've considered waiting until he gets his winter coat.  He comes around the same time every night and I think it will be a fairly easy to call him into a blind.

There's enough light from the neighboring property that I should be able to see him well enough to shoot all through the night.  I think I'll need to get him within 15 yards or so.

I have a couple of different plans. First I think I'll try to lay a scent trail down and maybe a tidbit of deer meat to have him pause in the right spot.  If that doesn't work, I might try a decoy and calling.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Andrew Wesley on August 26, 2010, 03:31:00 AM
just go to your local hunting store and buy a $5 rabbit distress mouth call and use a decoy and a good blind.  
sounds like the coyotes is pretty used to humans so he should come in no problem.
just make sure your bow is super quiet, i've seen a coyote hear a release and jump over the arrow... and that was from a compound. (so much for the 300+fps wheelie)
(be careful, coyote hunting is addictive, about all i hunt now is predators!)
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Looper on August 26, 2010, 04:00:00 AM
I've got several different calls.  I've taken several coyotes over the years, but none with a bow.  I'm thinking that if I can get him to follow a scent trail (made by dragging a freshly thawed piece of deer meat), he's apt to be more relaxed than he would be if he came in to a call. Every one I've ever called in before seemed to be on high alert. I think that if I lashed a piece of meat to a tree, he'd get preoccupied with it for a few seconds.

Also, every dog in the neighborhood gets pretty wound up when I blow a call.  

He's definitely used to human scent.  I've seen him cross my neighbor's backyard seconds after the neighbors walked inside.  I've been within 20 yards of him several times, while walking the dogs.  If I'd had my bow, I could have taken him while he was distracted by my yellow lab.

I'll be using a Hill Halfbreed.  It's really quiet, but it's not very fast.  I'll try to get him within 15 yards.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: ishoot4thrills on August 26, 2010, 06:21:00 AM
Since that 'yote is so bold and threatening your pets like that, I think I would just take a rifle and get rid of him before he kills something precious to you. I'm sure there is more than one 'yote around there. You can always hunt the others with the bow after you have killed the trouble maker hanging around your place.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Bonebuster on August 26, 2010, 06:32:00 AM
Any coyote that is willing to be seen within such close range is a BAD `yote.

Every encounter he has with people is simply risk assessment. He is trying to figure out if he can get away with what he WANTS to do.

Within the law, I would do whatever necessary to enable you to peel his hide...winter coat or not.

Take ishoot4thrills advice. Put a little bang in his next encounter with you.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: ckanous on August 26, 2010, 06:33:00 AM
I'm with ishhot4thrills on just taking this yote out! Kinda ticked me off reading your story knowing that yote picked on Taku like that! Next time might be to late get rid of him now. Of course thats easy for me to say I haven't been lucky with my gun yet to get one so pulling the trigger on one to me would be fulfilling. Good luck taking Wile E.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Bowwild on August 26, 2010, 06:50:00 AM
I'd say you've got Mr. Yote patterned pretty well!  I wouldn't want to be in his paws as the sand in his hourglass is rapidly disappearing.  

I hope there are no small children in this area that play away from the house?  I was in Nova Scotia last October when the young folk singer was killed by coyotes on a hiking trail.  It is a VERY RARE thing for a coyote to kill a person, I think it had been more than 20 years since it happening when the female adult was killed in Nova.

We have coyotes all around us. I killed one while in my PJs this past February. A pair were trotting down the lane towards the house. I used the deck stairs as my rest while standing barefoot in the snow. Mr. coyote had a severe allergic reaction to a particularly infective 150grain .270 WSM silvertip.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Reaper TN on August 26, 2010, 06:57:00 AM
.243
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Froggy on August 26, 2010, 07:20:00 AM
I agree.... a dose of lead poisoning !
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: sj_lutz on August 26, 2010, 07:23:00 AM
Be bow or gun, this yote needs to take a dirt nap pretty doggone quick.  

Good luck!
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Cherokee Scout on August 26, 2010, 07:58:00 AM
If he is trying to kill my pets, I would introduce him to my AR15.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: bornagainbowhunter on August 26, 2010, 08:01:00 AM
Yup, I agree with these fellas.  Once a yote gets where he is not afraid of people, he is bad news.  
I have cattle and horses, so yotes are a pretty common site around my house.  I have found that a 25-06 works well.  I have tried several times with my bow, but they will not get within range.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Looper on August 26, 2010, 08:05:00 AM
There are no kids around.

I'm going to do a trial run on the bait tonight.  I'll set up the game camera and get a pic of him.  If it works, I'll try to take him with my bow Friday night.  I'd really like to make a nice quiver out of him. And I'd like to be able to post pics of him on here.

I saw him again this morning just after sunrise.  I feel pretty confident that I can get him. If I can't with the bow. My .22 mag has taken several.

I was talking to my neighbor last night about killing the yote.  She's 80, by the way.  Anyway, she says "I've got a trap you can use", and points over by her porch. "I've caught several of them cats in it."  It was one of those humane traps for catching possums.  Her eyes got real big when I told him the coyote was bigger than her dog.  She was thinking it was the size of the little grey foxes we have. They might go 10 pounds.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: hayslope on August 26, 2010, 08:28:00 AM
Gotta pile on to what everyone else says......take him out...with whatever projectile launching device is at your disposal.

Yes...the lil' Jacks are tough little buggers...but, the problem is not their toughness.....it's their attitude!  Their "make-up" won't allow them to back off....which can lead to their early demise when facing off with Mr. Wile-E.  If anyone has ever seen them kill a rat ("take-your-breath-away" impressive BTW)....you will know the true nature of a Jack Russell.  The same attitude applies when they latch on to the neck of a bigger dog that outweighs them by 10 fold.  Their brain doesn't tell them they can't win!

Since the yote has already developed a taste for house pets, he obviously is going to hang around a bit.  Don't take chances.  Tell the neighbor to not get alarmed if they hear a loud bang in the night....get a predator call and put his lights out.  They go down easily with about any projectile that you choose to use.....as long as you can hit them!    :readit:
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Looper on August 26, 2010, 09:12:00 AM
You've got that right.  To say Taku's tenacious is an understatement.  He got after a groundhog once and I thought I'd never get him out of that hole.  I could hear him barking and growling underneath my feet, way down.

I don't think there's a dog alive that outweighs him 10-fold though.  He's 22 pounds.  He's built like a miniature pit bull. I don't doubt a coyote would kill him, though, so I don't let him run around at night anymore.  I've also got a 75 pound lab/weimeraner mix. The coyote avoids him like the plague.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Mudd on August 26, 2010, 09:37:00 AM
I share my house with a couple of little "she-devils" also known as "terrorists in clown suits" or Jack Russell Terriers.

Nobody ever told these two that they don't weigh 110 lbs when it comes to fight! I fear for them sometimes because their bravery can cross the line into..."that's stupid!" I've seen it happen with very large ridge running coon. It might as well have been a bear...lol

It is my opinion that you've been sent the message by the coyote.... now before something happens that you could end up regretting...Take him out!!!!!

You'll have a hard time getting over it if the unexpected happens.

Just my opinion!

God bless,Mudd
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Buckwheaties on August 26, 2010, 09:42:00 AM
This is getting exciting!! Mr Wyley has just got to go. Sounds to me like you really want to get him with your bow. Good for you. I'd go for it. You've got a good plan with the bait tied to a tree. That should stop him long enough for a shot but remember how sensitive a dogs nose is.. a coyote will be the same. With no wind at night your sent will pool out. Maybe the first shot with your stick and if you miss then a quick running shot with Mr 12ga, #4 buckshot? He will either become a bow quiver or will decide to move out of the area..
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Looper on August 26, 2010, 10:05:00 AM
I scouted out a couple of ambush sites. The wind should be coming out of the North, so my first choice should be perfect.  I'm going to set up under a sweet gum tree.  There's enough undergrowth around it that I'll be able to blend in quite nicely. There's another sweetgum 12 paces away that I'll tie my bait to. I'll tie it on so that it'll be just out of his reach.  I think he'll put his front feet on the tree to try and pull it off.

Tonight will be the test.  I'll give him just enough to make him want to come back for more.  Hopefully the trailcam will catch him and not the neighbor's dog.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Kapellmeister on August 26, 2010, 10:05:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bowwild:
... We have coyotes all around us. I killed one while in my PJs this past February...
:eek:   How'd he get in your PJ's?!

(Sorry... I just couldn't resist the setup!)     :smileystooges:
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Ragnarok Forge on August 26, 2010, 10:10:00 AM
22 Cent cure that starts with a bang and ends with a dead yote.  That wild dog is becoming to bold and is dangerous to everyone around you now.  Put him down the next time you see him.  Hang his hide on your property corner as a message to the other yotes and you won't see any more of them for a long time.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: champ38 on August 26, 2010, 10:46:00 AM
Keep us posted looper, this is gettin good.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: mrjsl on August 26, 2010, 10:53:00 AM
I have to say that those things are pretty hard to kill with a bow. They make deer look like idiots.

A long time ago, my buddy and I had a running battle in with one that was working the area we were deer hunting. I got a 20 yard shot at him while sneak hunting through the woods and missed. My buddy shot at him from a stand and missed, and he saw the same yote the next day trotting through the same area looking up in trees and busted my buddy from 50 yards away. They ain't stupid.

I have coon hunted around a lot of them at night, and they don't want no part of a loudmouth 60 pound redtick gyp. They steer clear of my big girls.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: bohuntr on August 26, 2010, 10:59:00 AM
Good luck, looking forward to the update tomorrow am!
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Rank Bull on August 26, 2010, 12:05:00 PM
Now Here's a good dog!

http://www.komar.org/faq/dog-versus-coyote/

I have two German Shepherds that love chasing Coyotes. They are too fast though. One time I had  one trapped in front of my car down a dirt road and we got over 40mph before he jumped out of the way. I didn't want to run over him...just see how fast he could go.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Dave Bowers on August 26, 2010, 12:20:00 PM
I have a JRT also and knowing their temperament is probably what saved him. That yoke was lookin for an easy meal, but chose the wrong dog to mess with.
That being said I be after that yoke with extreme prejudice. Good luck at getting him.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: hayslope on August 26, 2010, 12:29:00 PM
Good dog for sure........but a mite on the heavy side to try something so "athletic"!!!!  :knothead:
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: JDeanP on August 26, 2010, 12:43:00 PM
This joker is past due for a skinning. Be sure to get post-action pictures. Can't wait to hear how this goes down.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Bonebuster on August 26, 2010, 09:20:00 PM
Yeah, keep us posted if you would.

I`m glad he didn`t get your dog.

We have a mini Daschound that almost got caught by a big male `yote this past winter. My eight yr old daughters` screams brought him to a stop.
A .45 grain balistic tip bullet kept him to a stop. My daughter wraps her feet in his hide when she watches tv, and the weiner dog does not slip under the fence into the field any more.

I truely hope you get to make a quiver from him.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Mike Vines on August 26, 2010, 09:33:00 PM
If you wait till he has his winter coat, you might be missing your little buddy sitting on your lap this winter.  I would take him the first chance you can.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Looper on August 26, 2010, 10:29:00 PM
All right, the bait is hung and the game camera is positioned.  We'll see if my little test works.  We had a pretty good storm blow through, so he might be making his prowl a little later than usual.

I sat out there for an hour, but my confounded glasses kept fogging up.  There's just enough light from the DOT lot to see fairly well.  It's a little better than seeing with a full moon, but not much.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: elkken on August 27, 2010, 12:29:00 AM
I would kill that coyote ASAP with my shot gun and BB"s ... One of my neighbors lost two small dogs to a coyote last year, I shot it the next morning with my shot gun and BB"s ... called it in using a rabbit call at first light.

My best hunting buddy lost his favorite Jack Russel to a pack of coyotes. Lizzie was a tough pooch but no match for three yotes, they took her down with ease.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Looper on August 27, 2010, 08:37:00 AM
Well, a severe storm thwarted my plans last night. After one storm blew through, I laid a scent trail with a piece of venison.  I then tied it to a tree near my blind.
(http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad183/wclooper/MDGC0002.jpg)
I hid in my blind and blew my distress call, but in the end, only stayed out about an hour.  My glasses kept fogging up and it started lightning, so I called it a night. Several pretty significant storms blew through over the night, so I really wasn't expecting much to happen.

This morning, I went to check my bait.  It was gone, and several pics had been taken on the web cam.  I was a little excited, so I took the SD card and went back to the house to upload.

There were several pictures of mostly nothing.  I think the blowing limbs triggered the cam.  There were, however a few very interesting pics.  The bait thief revealed himself, or I should say, herself.

(http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad183/wclooper/MDGC0016.jpg)

That would be Shelby. My fat yellow lab.  At least my scent trail worked.

Here she is again, apparently really happy about her meal.
(http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad183/wclooper/MDGC0020.jpg)

My wife took the dogs out this morning, and didn't tell me that Shelby disappeared for a few minutes.

I feel pretty confident I'll get that coyote this weekend. If I don't see him tonight, I'll use the rabbit call in the morning.

BTW, meet Taku, with Shelby in the background.
(http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad183/wclooper/taku.jpg)
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: John3 on August 27, 2010, 09:09:00 AM
If you don't let Taku run around without you at night let the Coyote live.. I'm not a "tree hugger" but the coyote is only being a coyote...  When the neighbors cats are gone he will move on.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: mrjsl on August 27, 2010, 09:27:00 AM
Coyote no likey baby girl... Cats no likey neither. Raccoons... no likey. Skunks... especially no likey.
  (http://www.ride8.com/images/dogs/ruthiedog.jpg)  

She tried to fetch me a live skunk last year. It's hard to outrun a dog.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Spectre on August 27, 2010, 09:34:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by mrjsl:
Coyote no likey baby girl... Cats no likey neither. Raccoons... no likey. Skunks... especially no likey.
   (http://www.ride8.com/images/dogs/ruthiedog.jpg)  

She tried to fetch me a live skunk last year. It's hard to outrun a dog.
Heh...my girl is rough on stuff, totwotoo. Nothing better than a good dawg.
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m316/SeaSpectre/sipsy.jpg)
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Looper on August 31, 2010, 01:43:00 AM
I had him at 15 yards tonight, but I couldn't see well enough to shoot.  It was too difficult to make out a spot to shoot.  He came right in to my scent trail and I watched him for about a minute.  He never knew I was there. The coloring on those things makes it really difficult to see in low light.

I'm going to have to try and get him in the daylight. I think I've got a good ambush spot picked out.  The neighboring property was logged a couple of years ago and it's grown up pretty good.  There are some grassy patches in there that will make some good spots.  I'll keep you posted.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Bonebuster on August 31, 2010, 07:04:00 AM
Keep at it (him)  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: JDeanP on September 01, 2010, 05:28:00 PM
I've been that close to a yote myself and not able to shoot. Its a rush, isn't it? Keep on it and he'll make a nice quiver before you know it.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: rholzie on September 01, 2010, 05:44:00 PM
hey, if you can live trap that 'yote, I'll pay for shipping to my house! I've got the same situation here with neighbors' cats! I'd shoot 'em but I just woul'nt feel right shootin' a cat!
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Rufus 25 on September 01, 2010, 06:33:00 PM
mrjsl, that is a pretty red-tick hound you have there.  When I was a youngster I had a male that looked alot like yours.
Title: Re: Meet Mr. Wile E. ....Update on page 3...
Post by: Looper on September 26, 2010, 01:28:00 PM
Time for an update.

I've sat out a couple of nights a week for the last few weeks and haven't got a shot yet.  I've seen all sorts of critters, but haven't been able to get the coyote within an acceptable range.

A couple of nights ago, I had two coyotes within about 30 yards.  It was a full moon, so I could see pretty well.  They both came rushing in to a sqeaker call.  They got as close as 15 yards, but they were moving around way too fast to try a shot.  The new one has a lot of dark streaks on him and was running around with his/her left hind leg raised up from some sort of injury.

Last night, from about 30 yards, I watched a red fox and a grey fox chase each other around for over an hour.  They sure are funny little creatures.  They were yipping and growling and jumping over each other. I did see a coyote, but he was about 100 yards away and never came any closer.

I've only had time for a couple of early morning setups, and neither has been successful.  I think I got busted once, while I was trying to reposition myself.  I caught a glimpse of something running off from about 50 yards away, but wasn't sure of what I saw.

I'm picking up an electronic call this week, so that should increase my odds.  I keep you posted.