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Title: crack in the riser or just in the finish?
Post by: saumensch on August 25, 2010, 04:40:00 PM
Hi,

after i was happy for half a day because i got it quiet and was shooting good, theres the next issue.

I found this crack in the riser of my Bob Lee and am though it looks like just the finish, i have fear it might be worse.

Did not notice when it appeared, had a nock exploding at release today, was a bit like shooting it empty.

What do you think? I shot it several times since i noticed the crack and there was nothing wrong.
What should i do?

The crack is in the middle of the two red lines.

    (http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww119/g_reiner/DSCF3870.jpg)

    (http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww119/g_reiner/DSCF3869.jpg)

    (http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww119/g_reiner/DSCF3868.jpg)
Title: Re: crack in the riser or just in the finish?
Post by: WildmanSC on August 25, 2010, 04:50:00 PM
I would email the pics to Bob Lee Archery and ask their opinion.  It doesn't look good though.  I had a similar crack on a Palmer riser.  He initially told me he was going to put some Super Glue in it and ship it back to me.  I told him that was unacceptable and he finally agreed to build a new riser for me.  I sold the bow as soon as I got it back.  Bad Mojo!

Bill
Title: Re: crack in the riser or just in the finish?
Post by: Apex Predator on August 25, 2010, 05:27:00 PM
It doesn't look good from where I sit either!  I'd send it to to the bowyer as well.  It's right where all of the riser cracks appear.
Title: Re: crack in the riser or just in the finish?
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on August 25, 2010, 05:33:00 PM
I had to get rid of a Bow that had a crack just like that one..
Title: Re: crack in the riser or just in the finish?
Post by: saumensch on August 25, 2010, 05:37:00 PM
Oh No!
Doesnt sound good, you cant imagine how my heart sinks right now. Its not only the bow i love but the only one i am able to shoot because my Bear stacks at my draw....sounds like a break in training seems to come, havent got the money to get a new one.

Oh damn it, one of those days!
Title: Re: crack in the riser or just in the finish?
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on August 25, 2010, 05:43:00 PM
Treten Sie in Kontakt mit Peitsche, er ist ein Mitglied hier. Herausgefunden, wenn er etwas Gewicht also Ihren Bärenbogen doesn' fallenlassen kann; t-Stapel soviel.
Title: Re: crack in the riser or just in the finish?
Post by: Bjorn on August 25, 2010, 05:58:00 PM
Es ist kaput! Leider
Title: Re: crack in the riser or just in the finish?
Post by: saumensch on August 25, 2010, 06:02:00 PM
mysticguido, thanks for the tip, but could you repeat it in english? The first sentence about whip is nearly perfect but the second one is...not understandable.
Title: Re: crack in the riser or just in the finish?
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on August 25, 2010, 06:05:00 PM
Sure, Sorry the text translator not to good if you type like me.. What I said was..

 Ask Whip if He could do anything to help drop weight so Your Bear bow wouldn't stack so much for You.
Title: Re: crack in the riser or just in the finish?
Post by: L. E. Carroll on August 25, 2010, 06:23:00 PM
Man, that looks bad to me and right in the place you don't want to see a crack!! I think if you contatct Steve Smith, aka: "Bearbowman", that he has a Bob lee TD long bow at a smoking price on his used bow list..

Gene
Title: Re: crack in the riser or just in the finish?
Post by: John Dill on August 25, 2010, 08:00:00 PM
Definantly a crack. Its wood so it can happen. Call Rob at Bob Lee first and after he approves send it back. Since its a dryfire situation it might be tough luck in this instance.
Title: Re: crack in the riser or just in the finish?
Post by: sstewa on August 25, 2010, 08:14:00 PM
Send it back to Bob Lee and don't mess with it!  get er done by the pros, then shoot safe and straight.
Title: Re: crack in the riser or just in the finish?
Post by: adeeden on August 25, 2010, 08:26:00 PM
Dad's bob lee cracked in almost the same spot from a rtreestand drop. We drilled it and put a bolt through it, he shot it for two more yesrs before he finaly bought another riser! The bolted riser is still going as well.
Title: Re: crack in the riser or just in the finish?
Post by: Sixby on August 25, 2010, 09:31:00 PM
I would not string that bow , much less shoot it. Its an explosive with the detonator in place and the match struck. Fire in the Hole. Send it back . probably will depend on age ect as to replacement.
Title: Re: crack in the riser or just in the finish?
Post by: saumensch on August 26, 2010, 07:20:00 AM
now i am sure, it is definately in the riser. i can deel it with my nails and when bending the riser it opens up.

Bye Bye Bob   "[dntthnk]"
Title: Re: crack in the riser or just in the finish?
Post by: wingnut on August 26, 2010, 08:00:00 AM
Yep it's toast!  Your real lucky it didn't come apart and bonk you on the head.  Dry fires can cause a lot of problems.

Mike
Title: Re: crack in the riser or just in the finish?
Post by: bigiron on August 26, 2010, 01:47:00 PM
if it can crack through all that ply wood then it's fire wood NOW.
Title: Re: crack in the riser or just in the finish?
Post by: xtrema312 on August 26, 2010, 02:36:00 PM
I had one just like it in one of my Fire Flies.  I had a nock blow up and it was ok, but about an hour later I had a brass nock of all things crack and fly off causing another dry fire type shot.  That did it.  Glue didn't work because the crack is hair line and there was no way to get it in far enough to do the trick.

I am not going to tell you it will not blow up or crack more.  I would send it in to see what they think.  It is best not to shoot it.  Your crack looks like to could angle into critical areas to to the limb bolts.

My crack was past the grip, and I figured the weak point was the grip throat and that is where the most stress from draw is going to be.  The crack was from a dry fire and excessive forward flex of the bow vs. back flex from draw weight.  I didn’t think my bow would blow given many bows of the same wood and weight don’t even have all that extra riser wood sticking out there.  On my bow that wood was all part of the design, and the crack was past the grip and upper limb connection area wood.  The crack was not running in grain that would take it into a critical area.  It was more the decorative area of the riser, and probably cracked mostly due to the fact it was that far from the bending neutral line of the riser.  The farther out you go from the neutral bending line the more stress you get.  I figured at most maybe the crack would grow so I could get glue in it.  I shot it about 3000 times or more with no issues.  In the end I had that part of the riser cut off and a new section added then reformed.  That saved the greatest part of the riser and all the hardware.