Post by: TroutGuide on August 25, 2010, 03:14:00 PM
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Post by: Tim Fishell on August 25, 2010, 03:24:00 PM
Post by: chopx2 on August 25, 2010, 03:25:00 PM
Theoretically you can make MOST arrow fly out of any bow with unlimited point weights and adjusting of length and side plate. However not all those combinations will be practical, suitable for your application (e.g. hunting) or not even possible (hard to find point weights above 300 and less than 75/100).
1. Is the bow cut to center?
2. How smooth is your release?
3. What FOC are you trying to achieve?
4. Do you have a specific broadhead in mind-assuming hunting?
5. What distances do you want to be able to shhot at/
6. Do you have a minimum weight you want to have or a max in the finished arrow?
...ad infinitum
I'm not trying to evade or be difficult. The quesiton is too lacking in information to answer.
Post by: ISP 5353 on August 25, 2010, 03:28:00 PM
Post by: TroutGuide on August 25, 2010, 03:40:00 PM
Post by: Killdeer on August 25, 2010, 03:50:00 PM
If you have a cutoff saw, you can always have the fletcher leave them long and tune them yourself by cutting.
Killdeer
Post by: Killdeer on August 25, 2010, 03:54:00 PM
Killdeer
Post by: TroutGuide on August 25, 2010, 03:54:00 PM
Post by: chopx2 on August 25, 2010, 04:02:00 PM
You will only know after you try.
Post by: tukudu on August 25, 2010, 04:03:00 PM
Post by: Winterhawk1960 on August 25, 2010, 04:08:00 PM
My 35/55's with 50 grains of brass up front and 125 to 145 grain tips will shoot just fine out of everything that I have from 42# @ 29"......up to 51# @ 28".
The 35/55's also come full length at 30 1/2" which is a full 2 inches shorter than the 55/75's. With your draw length that is a lot of "hangover".......not that it will hurt anything.........just unnecessary in my opinion.
Winterhawk1960
Post by: Buckeye Trad Hunter on August 25, 2010, 04:29:00 PM
Post by: JimB on August 25, 2010, 04:34:00 PM
Post by: Apex Predator on August 25, 2010, 04:36:00 PM
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Post by: MSwickard on August 25, 2010, 06:55:00 PM
I think you will be able to use 55/75 at around 30-31" BOP and load the front up. Really depends on how heavy of an arrow you want. Either will work.
Mike
Post by: bentpole on August 25, 2010, 07:07:00 PM
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Post by: John3 on August 25, 2010, 07:11:00 PM
John III
Post by: Plumber on August 25, 2010, 07:14:00 PM
Post by: bentpole on August 25, 2010, 07:16:00 PM
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Post by: TroutGuide on September 10, 2010, 12:39:00 AM
Brian
Post by: joekeith on September 10, 2010, 01:05:00 AM
Post by: TroutGuide on September 10, 2010, 01:19:00 AM
Thanks for all your help here guys. I knew I should have asked before I leaped.
Lesson learned!
Brian
Post by: Gil on September 10, 2010, 05:18:00 AM
Gil
Post by: Shawn Leonard on September 10, 2010, 05:26:00 AM
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Post by: bridog on September 10, 2010, 05:20:00 PM
I was really suprised that I needed that weak of a spine. With fletching on I thought my axis arrow flew great with 200 gr upfront, but once I started bare shafting I was way wrong.
I had bought the 15/35 for my daughters bow and on a whim tried them with mine. I thought I would of had to cut them down a few inches and have a light tip. But when I started bare shafting it told the story.
I am just under 10gpi so they are doable for a hunting arrow. I wish they were heavier, but they fly great with broadheads (woodsmans). So I'm sold on them. And from a distance they look good - funny most Non-trad guys don't even realize their carbon:)..
Just my experience...
Bridog
Post by: traditional beagle on September 10, 2010, 06:42:00 PM
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Post by: xtrema312 on September 10, 2010, 08:21:00 PM
I have found I can shoot a lot stiffer arrow than I was. One day I got thinking that my arrows always hit weak or about on, but almost never have I gotten them to really plain stiff. I also was having some problem with shelf edge rub, which I just couldn't figure out. 40 yd. bare shafting showed me what that shaft does when given time to wobble around, and over correct. Still hits about the same place, but obviously the arrow is not ideal. Does it matter much for hunting at 20 yd? Probably not much, because like a dart, as soon as you add the feathers the light spine HFOC arrow will correct in a reasonable distance. However, if you want an arrow that sets up nice and straight fast, looses minimal speed, and will shoot bullet holes in paper at 12', you need to stiffen them up. I found I could getter much better paper tune and way less or now shelf edge contact with the stiffer arrows.
I would go 35/55, but I think the 55/75 will work also. I was able to shoot 5575 in a 46#@28" cut to center recurve just fine, but they heavy and the bow was a good performer with FF string. You will probably get a real good all around arrow at a nice length with the 3555 with 10 gpp. Probably even be able to use standard inserts, but it will not be upper end of 500 gr. tuned the way I like a bare shaft to fly. With the 5575 I would start full length and work down, but I can get it with about a 29-30" arrow, 100 gr. insert and 175 gr. head. For you heavier heads may be needed or a longer arrow, but I think that is in the ball park depending on all those personal variables.
I have also found a real difference between inserts in some cases and in others no difference. If I use aluminum insert and a heavier head I get a lot weaker arrow than a lighter head and heavy insert if both combinations are the same weight. Moving the weight forward, even if the insert length is the same, has a very noticeable affect for me. I also have found very little difference between 100 and 50 gr. brass inserts. 50 gr. is a lot, but the a 50 is also shorter than the 100. The flexing shaft length change and weight change kind of balances things out reasonable close for me. Now I use the one that weights the arrow the way I want.
Post by: on September 19, 2010, 04:38:00 PM
Bisch
Post by: S.C. Hunter on September 19, 2010, 07:36:00 PM
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