What do you thing about the longbow are they hard shooter
I have 3 3pc CX bows and one 1 pc bow-all 50#-53# they are about as good as it gets for fast, smooth, quiet bows.
To me, the quiet and smoothness are their best characteristics, the speed is 'free'.
I agree with Bjorn. I have two. The grip is a bit small for some people, and some folks have trouble tuning an arrow to them because they're cut past center. They take a very stiff arrow for their weight. For me, they're as good as it gets. I've shot just about everything out there and have found nothing better.
I shot one with a RC riser at ETAR and I'm saving up for one, thats how much I liked it, it just melted in my hand and it shot where I looked. Cant ask for anything more just my 2 cents
I shot three different models, including the all carbon one piece at Denton Hill just to see what all the hoopla is about. To be perfectly honest, I wasn't all that impressed. Yeah, they're quick, but not all that smooth and kinda ugly. 1200$- I don't think so. I can think of about a dozen other bows I'd rather have for half the money. Lot of guys love 'em, maybe its just me.
I am more accurate with them than ANY other bow, but unfortunately I don't like the low brace height or the hand shock.
***Most people would never notice the hand shock it is so slight.
Overall, excellent bows and great people to talk with.
I have a 3pc and at one time, I had two sets of limbs for it. I had 62" 47# @ 27" limbs and still have my 64" 38# @ 27" limbs. The numbers that I get through my brand new chrono are not even close to what Pete Ward has posted on his website. Maybe I do a fair amount of creeping before I release or my release sucks but at any rate, I do not get the blazing speeds that everyone else gets. I do not plan on getting rid of it but I sure wouldn't fork over the $1300.00 again.
Joe if you get a chance shoot one and you make up your own mind. From my perspective they are a high performance, quiet, smooth drawing and hard hitting bow. Their performance shines with heavy arrows and I personally consider them as one of the best I have owned. You really need to try for yourself. good luck. Ugly naaah this little lady is sweet, "red stripe man" :saywhat: (http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac45/massaro-60/P1000631.jpg)
I have two of them. I like them better than any bow I have shot. I have the metal riser I like the mass weight. If you get a chance give one a try before you buy one.
i have several. they are top notch in every way. the speed i get is unmatched with zero hand shock. it is true they are not for everyone though so shoot before you buy.
I sure like mine. I've been shooting stick bows since the '70's and have owned many custom bows. For me personally, its "the" bow. To quote Bjorn, "they are about as good as it gets for fast, smooth, quiet bows." That's the same conclusion I've come to.
Hands down the best bow I have ever owned and shot. Add in some of the best customer service out there and that's one great bow company!
Hand shock did you say hand shock on an A&H. :laughing: ......stabow
I have a 3 piece and a one piece....I did have to build out the strike plate a bit on the 3 piece to bring the arrows left but other than that I don't have any negatives about the bow. Killed BLOCKHEAD with it on its maiden voyage.
Now the one piece I'm in love with!!! But then again, I'm a one piece guy less we talking swimsuits. ;) Didn't do nothing but string it and bulls right out of the box. I'll be chasing bear with the one piece soon.
I don't recall any hand shock with either.
Nice guys to deal with for sure!
I have two now, have had several others. They are very smooth and are at the top of the performance list.
I do have problem with the grip.
I bought the Apogee riser and love that grip.
I had Jim of Black/Creek bows make me a custom riser (with a grip I designed) to fit my 58" limbs.
That is my hunting bow now.
When I was shooting an A&H, the guy had it set up with light aluminums...maybe that is why I felt some vibration? No disrespect intended, but I am very critical about handshock. If I feel it at all I am not happy. I imagne it might have been those light arrows and a heavier arrow would fix the issue. Again, most people would NOT notice it at all. These are excellent bows. You would likely be extremely happy, but shoot one for yourself to find out.
There are a ton of top bows out there that are not for me. I just don't like shooting them and I can tell you for that a ton of people think I am crazy for not liking them! They are all excellent bows too, just not for me. Get what works for you and if that is an ACS then go for it!
I have 3 with the RC riser. I haven't found a better longbow out there, and Ive tried many as well. I started with the standard riser, and then purchased the RC. As soon as I pulled the RC from the box, I knew immediately that was the one. It just molded to my hand, and shot were I looked.
Sold everything else, and went strictly all ACS RC. Only other non ACS bows I kept were a pair of 1956 Bear Kodiak for nostalgia purpose and a Widow recurve just cause I always wanted one.
Don't know buck eye....I shoot 580 grain arrows off both...the one piece is 60#s and the 3 piece is 67#s...
Sometimes it can be a funny thing....string silencers not equally placed....brace height...string material...and even someone's release.
Terry,
There were no string silencers on the bow either. As far as my release... I didn't even think of that. My release is okay, but needs some work.
Like I said though, it was by far the best bow I personally shot in terms of accuracy. Easy tight groups out to 25 yards first time I shot it. I was hitting my own arrows at 25 yards with that bow!
If it weren't for the low brace height and the vibration I felt then I would be saving for one already. They draw SUPER smooth and accuracy is obviously paramount in hunting.
Can the brace height be brought up some on these? I actually would like to have one if I could fix those two minor issues. I have been on their website a thousand times.
Buckeye...I also don't recal my brace heights being that low....what is yours set at and where did you get that measurment?
I can tell you on a new bow with a new string the string can and will stretch making your brace height lower. Not saying that's the case, but could be.
i remember getting a recurve once and shooting lights out with it for 2 days.....didn't notice any abnormal noise....left it strung and took it hunting about 3 days later and here comes a 7 point....15 yards and when I dropped the string it sounded like a 22 went off. The brace had dropped 3/4ths of an inch!!!
THAT is when I came up with BOW HUSH!!!
To me its the best shooting bow on the market.
I sold one but i have one on the way, 16in riser 45@30 skinned with eastern diamondback skins.
Now i will have a fast shooting bow that looks incredible.
The brace height was roughly 7 1/4 inches(actually found that doing a search on here). I like bows with recommended brace heights about 8 to 8 1/4 inches, but I usually only find that on recurves not longbows.
That is why I am looking at the Blackcreek Banshee takedown longbow. Recommended brace height is 9 inches and has forward handle...very forgiving.
I don't want to give up on the dream of an ACS though. I am tired of the noise of recurves versus the longbows. Even with everything in the world on them, a recurve just isn't as quiet as the longbow. That is why I am working to get the best of both worlds now. Takedown longbow with forward handle recurve grip. Then I'll throw on some Hushpuppies and be set! I am using bowhush on my current recurve! Way better, but I still want the longbow limbs.
Charlie I was just ribbing you about the hand shock, I have a few Hills and some people say they have hand shock but I never notice any. The brace height on my A&H is at 8''.....stabow
I had a one piece and it had such a big grip that I couldn't shoot it.I called A&H and Dan said send her on to him and he would make like the newer grip.That is cool for them to do that,I hope now I will be able to shoot it.I shot it then with the big grip and I did have a lot of shock,then again I didn't take the time to really tune it either.Having a 25 " draw maybe affects that for me who knows.I am excited about trying it out again.I know the day i shot it ,it screamed an arrow though.My .02
This is the sister to redstripe....she is not to bad on the eyes either. (http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac45/massaro-60/P1000632.jpg)
My ACS has always been accurate. When I first started shooting it I thought it was kinda loud. I have since raised the brace height to 7 3/4. I also built out the side plate. Now it is very quiet and fast. Gary
Larry and John are two of the nicest, most unassuming guys you'll ever talk to; reason enough to own one! With all the performance and everything said above, you still have to like a bow intrinsically for what it is IMO. In other words, you're either attracted to it and can shoot it or you can't. Attraction goes beyond just looks, it is the feeling the bow gives off to you. Hold one, shoot it, "feel it" you'll know if it speaks to you! They are what people say they are, but it still has to work for you. Only you can answer that one.
Best of luck!
Kris
The 3 piece is hands down my favorite bow of all time.....and I've had more than my fair share!! :saywhat:
I have one and it is a hard shooting bow,I built out my side plate by 3/16" and still required a stiff spined arrow.I never felt any handshock in mine,but I don't feel handshock in my Hill's.It's all in setting your bow up.I shoot 10 gpp out of mine,set my brace just under 7",it's shoots smooth and fast.They are a great shooting bow,but with any bow you need to shoot one and decide for yourself.
I think that one post up there made it sound like I don't like A&H bows, but it is really just those minor issues for me. If I could get the brace height up to 8-8 1/4 inches or so.......
Stabow- it still shoots nice with an 8 inch brace height?
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Ready for September
My brace height is 7 1/4" The bow is 47#@27" 62". It is the smoothest and very flat shooting bow that I have had in 30 years and I had my share of bows. No hand shock at all. 505gr arrows. I will say that I did not like it at first. I had the standard riser and sent it back to have them put the low riser on it. When I got the bow back it was like a whole different bow. WOW!!!! Now there was No hand tork at all. The bow was very quite. I have a Kaniti limb bolt quiver on it. Perfect, Perfect,
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Here's mine. Bocote riser. 62", 48@28". 7.25" brace. Easily one of the best bows I've ever owned. Like so many others, mine was a standard grip and I had it sent back for the "JK cutdown".
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Very smooth, quiet, fast, and it kills stuff when you take it hunting !
I have a set of 64" 49# @ 28 limbs and a Aluminum Riser (Low grip). I will send it to you if you would like to try one. All it would cost would be the shipping both ways. Let me know. Randy
I have 5 ACS: 4 TD and 1 onepiece...they are the best bows of the earth as long as you will follow the factory advices about the bow's length according to the draw lengthes...if you take a too short bow for your own DL, you will regreat it...the RC riser is this one I like the less cause I feel a little handshock with it what is absolutly not the case with the standard one...my preferred grip is the alu one...I would like to buy the new short 12" model but I find the riser so ugly that I hesitate a lot...
Mine is a 62" 54#er @ 28 draw length and is truly an amazing bow once I got used to the grip.
I have 2, a 66# and a 53#, both rock the house!! They are great folks to do business with. H
I had one and a half sold one and bought a half now I just have one. :goldtooth: .....stabow
I have to say up front that I am a Hill style longbow shooter over the years. I have tryed other bows and migrated back to the thicker limbed "Hill" style of longbow.
I borrowed and shot a buddies ACS 3-piece with a lighter arrow about 5 times. I hung it back up and got my Hill.
Later I built up a heavy arrow 670 grains with plastic tube inside an aluminum arrow and high profile feathers.
I shot this arrow out of the ACS, about 13 GPP. I bought the bow from my buddy. In the top 3 bow and arrow set-up's I have ever had.
The bow is not critical of a release with a heavy arrow and flat out accurate. I carry a deep hook on the string and the limbs react like a thicker limbed Hill, not critical.
Like I said I did not like the bow with a light arrow. The penetration that I am getting with a 52 pound bow and 13 GPP is quite impressive. Looking forward to taking her in the woods for the important test, game animals.
Wow! If I hadn't already been sold (and put this on the list as my next bow), I sure would've after reading this thread! I suspect one of these bows will accompany me to Africa. Thanks!
I just ordered another last week. Now the wait starts....
My bow is 64", 55# @ 28", Aluminum handle with snake skins on the limbs. 7 1/4" from the throat of the grip seems to be the best BH for the bow. The bow also like a high nocking point for me. Anyone who gets one of these, try the bow with a heavy arrow. Adjust the side plate thickness and the nock set until the bow is hitting where you are a lookin. I have not changed my form at all. Bow grip, deep hook on the string, swing draw, just like I shoot the Hill. I would say the bow is equivelant to a hill style longbow that is 5 to 10 pounds heavier in performance with the approx same arrow weight. I have no scientific testing data to back that, but I can see how much more penetration I am getting into the same sand bank with the same weight arrow shot from my Hill bow that is 5 pounds heavier. The ACS simply shoots the arrow deeper into the sand and hits with some authority. I am only shooting about 52 pounds.
I am looking for somebody in the Central Texas area that owns a ACS Bow. I have never seen nor shot one and i am very interested. Please contact me and I will meet you--come see you or whatever it takes. I live in the Marble Falls Area. Baker
Beautiful bows, great performers and the customer service is tops.
QuoteOriginally posted by fatbuck12:
I am looking for somebody in the Central Texas area that owns a ACS Bow. I have never seen nor shot one and i am very interested. Please contact me and I will meet you--come see you or whatever it takes. I live in the Marble Falls Area. Baker
If you haven't checked out their website, it is very well done and has loads of great info.
I just got one 64" 49@28. it is 7 lbs lighter than my saxon recurve but the same speed and no handshock and what noise? I have the carbon riser which is very light but feels good. i will try the aluminum after season to see if I like the heavier but for now zero complaints other than not getting it in January! imo it is worth every penny!
I also want to add that customer service is second to none. Called today to ask how heavy an arrow they would recommend and we talked 5 minutes. I actually was the one to end the conversation.. If you want to know something just call up there. They are super nice guys and will not lead you in the wrond direction. Now I shut up!
I have two, a 64" 48#@28" and 62" 52#@28". The 52# is my hunting bow. I have quite a few other bows but one of these seams to be in my hand when I go shooting.