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Title: Trail Cam,, Is this a bear?Follow up black or brown?
Post by: Joshua Lee on August 16, 2010, 12:30:00 PM
Looks like one to me, but you be the judge.  The cam was about 6 and a half feet off the ground.  The color differances in the fur make me question,, could it be a rodent climbing up tree, maybe a squirrel or chipmunk.  I thinks its a bear but with hesitation.

 (http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae340/joshuademetriuslee/IM000244PB.jpg)
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Post by: Over&Under on August 16, 2010, 12:34:00 PM
That there is a bear sure enough...looking right into the lense.
Title: Re: Trail Cam,, Is this a bear?Follow up black or brown?
Post by: ChuckC on August 16, 2010, 12:39:00 PM
Looks decent too
ChuckC
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Post by: joekeith on August 16, 2010, 12:47:00 PM
If you got chipmunks that size I'd stay inside.  :scared:
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Post by: Joshua Lee on August 16, 2010, 12:50:00 PM
Laughing my ass off Joekeith
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Post by: Joshua Lee on August 16, 2010, 12:51:00 PM
Can't stop laughing
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Post by: Zradix on August 16, 2010, 02:10:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by joekeith:
If you got chipmunks that size I'd stay inside.    :scared:  
LMAO...haha

ONLY other thing I could possibly think of is a pitbull looking dog with ears back....but that is a stretch.

In fact, Just looked again...Gotta be a bear. That muzzle to forehead can't hardly be a dog.
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Post by: Bill Turner on August 16, 2010, 02:38:00 PM
Sure as shootin, thats a bear. Have fun and shoot straight.  :banghead:
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Post by: VTer on August 16, 2010, 02:42:00 PM
I'd say bear too. Nice pic, what model Bushnell are you using?
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Post by: Bowwild on August 16, 2010, 02:46:00 PM
As I processed the picture with my ear-bracketed computer all I got was drop the pack and slowly back away.
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Post by: Tater 2 on August 16, 2010, 02:46:00 PM
Bear for sure
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Post by: Gen273 on August 16, 2010, 03:02:00 PM
there is a bear
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Post by: J-dog on August 16, 2010, 03:12:00 PM
A great big goodun of a bear
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Post by: moose eye levi on August 16, 2010, 03:13:00 PM
its a bigfoot
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Post by: iowan on August 16, 2010, 03:19:00 PM
Thats a big bear.
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Post by: Joshua Lee on August 16, 2010, 03:22:00 PM
The bushnell model is
BUSHNELL 119405 5 MP TROPHY CAM TRAIL CAMERA

Worked like a charm, got some elk (cows, and calves), deer, bear, and bigfoot all from one week in the woods.  The bigfoot pic may be posted soon, need to check with bigfoot to see if its ok (gotta love photoshop)
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Post by: pete p on August 16, 2010, 03:25:00 PM
that there is an average sized yeti.
Title: Re: Trail Cam,, Is this a bear?Follow up black or brown?
Post by: JimB on August 16, 2010, 04:17:00 PM
I get a lot of those pictures with bears.Sometimes 1 eye,sometimes 2,sometimes a nose.Often,picture one is of the whole bear.Picture 2 is the eyeballs.I use mine with steel lock boxes as they like to play sometimes.
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Post by: meangene1969 on August 16, 2010, 04:40:00 PM
good pic, big bear
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Post by: joevan125 on August 16, 2010, 04:50:00 PM
My God if thats a squirell he is the king of the jungle.lol
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Post by: PLS-12224 on August 16, 2010, 04:55:00 PM
I agree, good bear, you can tell by the crease in his noggin
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Post by: Kenneth on August 16, 2010, 06:06:00 PM
Yep, big bear!  Hope you get a shot at him this year!
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Post by: pickaspot on August 16, 2010, 06:14:00 PM
Sasquatch - no doubt     :scared:
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Post by: Dean Lintz on August 16, 2010, 09:53:00 PM
Forget bait take camera seems to interest this bear maybe he will come to look at camera while you are there with your bow.
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Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on August 16, 2010, 09:58:00 PM
That thar is a Bar!
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Post by: Vig on August 16, 2010, 11:08:00 PM
It might be a man wearing a bear hat, or an actual bear.  It's definately not a squirrel.

Just my 2 cents.

Vig
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Post by: Raging Water on August 17, 2010, 12:15:00 AM
That's what my hair looked like 20 years ago!
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Post by: D. Key on August 17, 2010, 08:35:00 AM
Down here in Texas we call 'em Chupicabra.  

Naw...Bear for sure.
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Post by: David Mitchell on August 17, 2010, 10:15:00 AM
"Hmmm, I see you back in there!"  :p
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Post by: FerretWYO on August 17, 2010, 10:16:00 AM
There is no doubt. Those little beady eyes ha ha.
Title: Re: Trail Cam,, Is this a bear?Follow up black or brown?
Post by: Joshua Lee on August 17, 2010, 10:42:00 AM
Okay, so i'm not crazy and we all agree it's a bear. Here is the follow up question.  Is this a black bear or a brown bear (griz)?  I have no idea but I will say that the ears look a bit more like a griz than a black, although I've never been this close to either. Also, before you guess I should give you all the info I can to make it fair.  Supposedly there are no brown bear in this area, but there are brown bear within 150 miles.  I'm going with Brown, whats your guess.
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Post by: JimB on August 17, 2010, 10:53:00 AM
I'm sure that one is a black bear.
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Post by: on August 17, 2010, 10:57:00 AM
Looks like a black to me.  Does not look much different than the many bears we run into that want our food when we our on canoe trips.  We don't take their pictures, we poke at them with paddles and jump up and down waving our paddles in the air.
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Post by: Joshua Lee on August 17, 2010, 11:39:00 AM
Ok, I used a lifeline (internet) and read that black bears can have brown fur.  In the pic you can see, kinda, that it has brown and black fur. Dind't know that about black bears, ears still look a little rounded to be black but I saw a few pics that were kinda close. I would like to jump on board with JimB and Pavan and switch to Black..final answer..probably.
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Post by: recurvecody on August 17, 2010, 11:56:00 AM
a bear or a really big brendal colored pitbull!
Title: Re: Trail Cam,, Is this a bear?Follow up black or brown?
Post by: Gen273 on August 17, 2010, 12:47:00 PM
Black Bear
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Post by: PLS-12224 on August 17, 2010, 02:43:00 PM
Joshua

deffinetly a blackie, we here in Idaho have a lot of color phase bears.  I am not sure what part of Idaho your in but, I have a site that has 3 color phase bears (2 blondes, 1 brown) and only 1 black colored bear. On my other site (6 miles away) I have never seen a colored phase bear on it. Go figure.
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Post by: TooManyHobbies on August 17, 2010, 03:31:00 PM
Unfortunately it's a bear, I wanted to come out and hunt the giant chipmunks.
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Post by: JimB on August 17, 2010, 03:51:00 PM
I'm a taxidermist that does a lot of blacks,grizzlies and brown bears.Regardless of what you read,all bears have rounded ears.You can take the cartilage out of a black bear ear and lay it beside that of a grizzly and you can't tell one from the other.

What is different,is that the grizzlies and browns have much longer hair on their ears which often makes the ears look much more like a puffball than black bear ears.This is why black bear ears may look less round to some.

Grizzlies also never have a distinctly lighter muzzle like many black bears do-but not all.I think your bear has a lighter tan muzzle which would be a contrast to his otherwise brown/black color.

This is why I say it is a black bear.It has enough crease in his head that I believe it is older than 4 1/2 but hard to pin down and impossible to tell gender.You may get more pictures of it.Places like water troughs where bears can dunk themselves are very important in hot weather.Find a place like that and you should get multiple bear pictures.

Go back and look at your grizzly and black bear pictures again and look at those features.Hopefully you can see what I mean.

If you do a search for MT FWP (our game department)they have a grizzly test for hunters.It is interesting to take and it helps you understand that when dealing with color phase black bears,you sometimes have to look close to tell them from grizzlies.
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Post by: Guru on August 17, 2010, 04:02:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by JimB:
I'm a taxidermist that does a lot of blacks,grizzlies and brown bears.Regardless of what you read,all bears have rounded ears.You can take the cartilage out of a black bear ear and lay it beside that of a grizzly and you can't tell one from the other.

What is different,is that the grizzlies and browns have much longer hair on their ears which often makes the ears look much more like a puffball than black bear ears.This is why black bear ears may look less round to some.

Grizzlies also never have a distinctly lighter muzzle like many black bears do-but not all.I think your bear has a lighter tan muzzle which would be a contrast to his otherwise brown/black color.

This is why I say it is a black bear.It has enough crease in his head that I believe it is older than 4 1/2 but hard to pin down and impossible to tell gender.You may get more pictures of it.Places like water troughs where bears can dunk themselves are very important in hot weather.Find a place like that and you should get multiple bear pictures.

Go back and look at your grizzly and black bear pictures again and look at those features.Hopefully you can see what I mean.

If you do a search for MT FWP (our game department)they have a grizzly test for hunters.It is interesting to take and it helps you understand that when dealing with color phase black bears,you sometimes have to look close to tell them from grizzlies.
I'll second all of that   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trail Cam,, Is this a bear?Follow up black or brown?
Post by: Joshua Lee on August 17, 2010, 05:38:00 PM
Thanks for the great info everyone.

PLS12224, the area is near council but I can't remember how I got there  :)
Title: Re: Trail Cam,, Is this a bear?Follow up black or brown?
Post by: JimB on August 17, 2010, 06:25:00 PM
This one is a black bear also.It is hard to hide anything from a bear.
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/jbrandenburg/Trough07008-1.jpg)
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Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on August 17, 2010, 08:58:00 PM
Its a hoax    :laughing:

Ever see one of them before?   :confused:    ;)
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Post by: DW Dyer on August 17, 2010, 09:17:00 PM
Bear for me too.
Title: Re: Trail Cam,, Is this a bear?Follow up black or brown?
Post by: swamp donkey on August 18, 2010, 11:31:00 AM
Yeppers a blacky, with that crease n the way the ears look small I'd say a pretty goodun to boot. I don't think a grizzly, from what I can see it's shaped wrong.
Title: Re: Trail Cam,, Is this a bear?Follow up black or brown?
Post by: PLS-12224 on August 18, 2010, 12:36:00 PM
Council is a great bear area, unfortunatley super hard hunt to draw.

I think I know the area. Is it next to
no tell'em creek?   ;)    

I hope you are able to find your way back to get your camera.

BTW love the picture of you and the elk head.  I am always suprised on how much those things weigh

Good luck this fall

Chris