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Title: doublebull blinds
Post by: swampbuck on May 14, 2007, 04:25:00 PM
Okay for you fella's that have used a DB AND another lesser blind like ya can get from Cabela's what is it that makes the DB worth double?

I've been thinkin about gettin one for turkey huntin since I've never gun hunted them I thought the DB may help I just have a hard time parting with the $$

PS I shoot a 64" LB and while I can shoot it sitting flat on my butt I prefer to cant it to only to around 1:00

Thanx
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: Shawn Leonard on May 14, 2007, 04:32:00 PM
Tom, the material the blind is made from is totally different. It is like tent canvas and the ease in set-up is incredible. i know some of the others are using the hub system now, but nothing i have tried which is quite a few can compare. If ya want buy the recurve model and you will be fine, ya could easily shoot out of the standard one though. If ya want Pm me your addy and when turkey is over this year i will send ya mine and the DVd on set-up and ya can keep it for a few months and than decide. Since I got you your bunny and all, ya mind as well take the blind too and try and kill a chuck from it over the summer!!(LOL!) Shawn
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: Stone Knife on May 14, 2007, 04:52:00 PM
Tom,
I have a ameristep penthouse, i just recently bought a Double Bull 360. There is no comparison between the two. The Double Bull is so much better that I'm sorry i wasted the money buying the other to begin with. I know some will say they are not worth the money, but if your serious about turkey or deer hunting they are. Just the fast setup time alone is worth it to me. I work all year and when i get time to hunt i want the best equipment i can afford and even the stuff i can't. My new blind  has given me more confidence to set up in the dark and closer to the birds than i ever have with a blind. I only hunted turkeys with a gun until this year, i feel that if i had the DB since day one of the season i would probably have taken a bird by now, given the fact that i hung back with my old blind instead of aggressively going after them like i do when i gun hunt, that type of tactic has earned me a lot of gobblers over the years. My advise would be if you want a DB get it even if you have to save longer for it. You will be farther ahead in the long run. With that said i will tell you that hunting with a blind is hard work at 20 pounds you need to be in shape to tote it all over the place, but it can be done.
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: mlmealey on May 14, 2007, 06:12:00 PM
Swampbuck, i've hunted with Keith, Brooks and Tom Carroll from DB, it's the only blind you'll ever have to buy you can use it on other game to it's not only for Turkeys, ther customer service is first class just like the people of DB. I've hunted with Dave Kieser from Doulbe K guide service for the last three years and that's all he will use, they take over 70 birds a year out of DB blinds. Get the DB you won't be sorry,
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: B.O.D. on May 14, 2007, 07:46:00 PM
Tom, pm me, I'll tell ya some good stuff about my personal blind, maybe save you some bucks.

Cary
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: Guru on May 14, 2007, 10:16:00 PM
Spend the $$ bud...you won't regret it....take my word
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: BD on May 14, 2007, 10:25:00 PM
I've used DB and others and don't think the DB is worth the extra money in any way. Give the groundmax escape deluxe a look in cabela's.
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: swampbuck on May 15, 2007, 10:03:00 AM
Thanx guys and to keep this on hunting how do blinds in genral work for deer?Do ya need to brush them in?Thats what got me lookin at the leafy cut look in the Cabela's catalog.Thanx again
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: throwit on May 15, 2007, 01:27:00 PM
I have had horrible luck using blinds for deer.  I think I tried every trick and tip out there.  The deer just seem to always walk around the blind.  For me deer hunting on the ground should be done back against a tree and full camo.. down wind!!  I dont set up my blind ahead of time so I have only tried same day setups.  Also I dont own a duble bull!  Maybe if I spend the money??
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: Ted A. Young on May 15, 2007, 03:18:00 PM
I had T2 and T5 DD.  Good blinds.  I sold them both and now own the same style blinds from Cabelas at half the price and just as good.  For turkey tou can set up any where any time.  For deer BRUSH em in>
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: Charles Sorrells on May 15, 2007, 03:34:00 PM
Buy the DB.  Nothing compares to having a large enough blind to hunt out of yourself or take young hunters too.  My boys both killed their first turkeys at eight years old out of a DB blind.  One at 13 yards and the other at 8yds.

It is good money invested in young lives.  Takes the pressure off of them to be locked down all the time and gives them more enjoyment out of hunting at an early age.

My two cents...was spent on a DB.

Regards, Charles
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: Huntrdfk on May 15, 2007, 04:42:00 PM
Tom,

I have an Ameristep Brickhouse and a DB Matrix....you want the Brickhouse???????? Then if you get Shawn's to try DB out you can answer your own question.......(Shawn's nicer than me, I ain't sending my DB out..... "[dntthnk]" )


David
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: bbassi on May 15, 2007, 10:53:00 PM
Tom - I have the brick house and an Eastman Magnum. The turkeys haven't been impressed with either this year and neither have I. I think the fabric is too "shiny" on clear days. I've had 4 toms pull up short this year and refuse to come in, and these are unpressured birds. If you take Shawn up on his offer let me know and we can set up all three together and compare. I'd like to see if the DB is that much better too.  :)
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: BD on May 15, 2007, 11:06:00 PM
bbassi-if the birds hung up I doubt very much it was becasue of the blind. The DB is not worth the extra money and yes I have used one on several occasions. If it is better than the others that I have successfully used for years, I sure couldn't tell.

BD
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: Pinelander on May 16, 2007, 01:17:00 AM
Tom, I've used both the Ameristep Brickhouse and the Double Bull T5. There are some things that make a difference, and they are related to the stealth mode of things when hunting turkeys from a blind.

1. The material - nylon on the Ameri blind is very shiny, even on a cloudy day. Most times the turkeys make it out very easily, even when it is partially concealed amongst the trees. The DB canvas seems to be invisible to them, even out in the open.

2. The windows - the Ameri blind's are too big for my liking, and if they don't have the shoot-thru screen on them, turkeys notice it. To open/close the shooting ports, they must be zippered. With the nylon construction, it's rather noisy. The DB uses flaps on the shooting ports that connect with a hook onto an elastic loop at the top of the port, no zipping. Open and close at your disgression very quickly and silently.

3. The doorway - The zipper on the Ameri blind is very noisy, to the point where I don't even want to open/close it when located nearby roosting areas. I would rather leave one side of the blind unstaked and tip the blind up and crawl in. The DB zipper system on canvas is very quiet.

4. Visibilty - I've tried the Ameri blind out in the open.... no way, it doesn't fool them. Place the DB out in the open.... and they don't even flinch.

5. Rain - the Ameri blind sounds like a million little drummer boys beating down on the stretched-out nylon. The DB doesn't sound much different than rain hitting the foliage nearby. There is a huge difference in this.

6. Roominess - they both are about the same, and I think a 64" longbow can be used if canted. Gotta get familiar with the interior structure and know how to be situated and how to cant the bow in relation to the window you're shooting out of. I use a 58" recurve held vertically and no problems whatsoever.

7. Emphasis - the Ameri blind needs to have the shoot-thru screen attached to have complete confidence in concealment, even with the black interior. The nylon isn't as "black" as the DB's canvas because when daylight enters the blind, it has a sheen to it. The DB T5 does not have shoot-thru screen on the shooting ports, because it doesn't need it... seriously.

I've been in and out of both of these blinds in the last 5 days, and nearly every time I'm in the Ameri blind, the turkeys act suspicious. Never with the Double Bull. Just today I watched turkeys walk by the Ameri blind from my location in the DB... they acted spooked. I have complete confidence with the DB in full sunshine, but the Ameri blind must be in the shade to even feel part way confident.
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: Huntrdfk on May 16, 2007, 06:43:00 AM
Dave that is about the best I've seen it said, and you are right on all counts.


David
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: swampbuck on May 16, 2007, 09:11:00 AM
Thanks guys
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: BCD on May 16, 2007, 11:20:00 AM
Dave-

I think you're giving the turkeys way to much credit. I've put my blinds in the wide open (ameristep) and have never had a negative reaction-the birds walk right by it like it isn't even there.

BD
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: Bard1 on May 16, 2007, 11:44:00 AM
Here's my experiances for what it's worth.  I have an ameristep Penthouse, and I have had really good success with it on deer.  As with all camo, what's behind it is often more important then what's in front of it.  I do know that brushing it in helps, but I have been succesfull without doing so too.  I could see where the shine of the fabric would be a problem, but it hasn't been one for me in 4 years of use.  
After reading this I realize now that I haven't had much luck using the Ameristep on Turkey.  The best I have had was when I was using the shoot through screen, and that seems to coralate with what some of the others are saying.  So to sumerize, it has worked fantastic on deer, not so good on turkey.  
Derek
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: Pinelander on May 16, 2007, 03:58:00 PM
BD, obviously you and I have had different experiences. Apparently the Ameristep is good for you, but bad for me. But honestly, I don't give the turkeys more credit than what they've already earned.
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: Shawn Leonard on May 16, 2007, 04:36:00 PM
As I said there is no comparison, pinelander said it all and as far as BD goes, well he just does not get it. There was another thread on this and DB blinds were pretty much the winner 99.9% of the time by guys who hunt a lot. Shawn
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: BCD on May 16, 2007, 05:02:00 PM
Shawn- Maybe it's you that just doesn't get it. I guess all those birds I've killed out of mine were blind and deaf-including the 23 lber I shot last weak? The DB's are significantly overpriced and over-rated. Just because they cost more does not mean they are better.

BD
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: B.O.D. on May 16, 2007, 06:28:00 PM
A blind is a blind is a blind...Turkeys are stupid and do not care what is out there in front of them.
spend as little or as much as you want, you will still kill deer and turkeys if the set-up is good.
I was going to get a DB, but they are wayyyy to much $$$ to bring up here for a short 5 week turkey season. ( I hunt deer from treestands)
I like my ground max eclipse deluxe and the turkey I killed and the tons of others we saw out of it did not care one bit that it wasn't a DB...   ;)  
Shoot out of what you like and what is in your budget, it is not about " who is getting it" and " who is not"...
BD
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: Shawn Leonard on May 16, 2007, 07:43:00 PM
The question was not weather ya can kill birds out of them, the question was basically one of quality and getting your moneys worth!! The DBs will outlast and out perform all other blinds. To each his own, but I would not waste money(again) on any other blind!! Shawn
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: B.O.D. on May 16, 2007, 08:16:00 PM
I'm figuring I may just try to keep killing birds the 1st or second time I sit in it for the season...that way I'm getting my $$$ worth  ;)    ;)
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: Ga.boy on May 16, 2007, 08:17:00 PM
Hunt out of whatever blind you are comfortable with, and if you are only going to use it a few days a year during turkey season, any blind will probably work for you for a few seasons if you take care of it. If you plan to use it often, and want the best blind available, there is only one option (in my opinion). DOUBLE BULL!!
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: BD on May 16, 2007, 09:20:00 PM
Shawn-the question was what makes the DB worth double the cost of other blinds. My simple response is, it isn't worth anywhere near double the cost-my opinion. If you think DB's are great that's great, but just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean that i "just don't get it".

Good Hunting
BD
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: Ybuck on May 16, 2007, 10:44:00 PM
If the DB is overpriced, then ALL the other blinds are WAY overpriced!
It's not even debatable, the DB is the best.
note: i never said you couldn't harvest game from the other "blinds"
Use what ya like, and have fun.  :wavey:
Title: Re: doublebull blinds
Post by: White Oak on May 16, 2007, 10:49:00 PM
Hey Swampbuck, just my 2 cents and thats probably about what it's worth.I've had a DB since the 90s. I'd guess it's pushing 10 years old.It is used every spring and fall and still works great.I see it being around for a good many years yet.If I had to replace it I would definately buy another. Why? Simply the quality of the material and the way they back their product.I recently was in a local sporting goods store that handles both DB and also has a store brand that looks real similar. This is where you can really tell the differents in the fabric.The DB material feels more durable.
Over the years I have broken a couple of rods. ( More than likely my fault).My carrying handle tore off my blind bag on another occasion. In each case I contacted the folks at DB and replacements were sent with no questions asked and no charge. Keep in mind that they have made improvements since I bought mine. I certainly don't have money to throw away on these things but sometimes cheaper aint no bargain. I prefer to buy things once.DB gets my vote.
As for deer hunting from them, I have always had better luck if the blind was brushed up.Even better if it can be brushed and left for several days before the hunt. Unfortunately in my area I would be very hesitatant to leave mine in the field.
Anyway, good luck in your search and what ever you chose good huntin.

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