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Title: Using Super glue on a serving?
Post by: frassettor on August 14, 2010, 06:07:00 PM
Can you put a dab of superglue on your serving to keep the ends tied or from unravling, or will it eat the serving?
Title: Re: Using Super glue on a serving?
Post by: sendero25 on August 14, 2010, 06:23:00 PM
I've done it with no problem so far.
The bottom of my serving becomes a little "frayed" where it hits my armguard.
Gotta do something about that bow torque.....
Title: Re: Using Super glue on a serving?
Post by: Buckeye Trad Hunter on August 14, 2010, 06:46:00 PM
I melt the tag ends with a lighter and then dab super glue on them and have never had a problem.
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Post by: arky714 on August 14, 2010, 07:05:00 PM
Tryed superglue  on loose serving worked good ..I got 2000 shots on serving sence adding super glue...
Title: Re: Using Super glue on a serving?
Post by: TexasTrad on August 14, 2010, 07:11:00 PM
Be careful that the superglue does not leak through to the string.  I had someone tell me that it makes the string brittle and can cause it to break
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Post by: John Scifres on August 14, 2010, 07:14:00 PM
I do it all the time.
Title: Re: Using Super glue on a serving?
Post by: AkDan on August 14, 2010, 07:35:00 PM
heck I dont even bother melting the ends...if it's coming apart, learn to tie the inline whip finish.
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Post by: JEFF B on August 14, 2010, 07:44:00 PM
i do it no problem Bro
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Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on August 14, 2010, 08:05:00 PM
Another yep from me.
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Post by: JRY309 on August 14, 2010, 08:06:00 PM
I haven't done it on my serving but have used super glue on my tie on nocks,but not always.
Title: Re: Using Super glue on a serving?
Post by: pickaspot on August 15, 2010, 01:29:00 AM
Be sure not to touch it before it dries...makes for a tough release!

Learned that the hard way one time   :knothead:
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Post by: ncsaknech1ydh on August 15, 2010, 01:41:00 AM
I've done it many times, I find that the superglue gel works best for me.
Title: Re: Using Super glue on a serving?
Post by: Rob DiStefano on August 15, 2010, 06:19:00 AM
i ALWAYS put a tiny drop of *quality* (NOT krazy glue!) cya (CYAnoacrylate) "super glue" (the water thin version, not the medium or thick or gel types as they will not penetrate the fibers well if at all!) on all serving whipped ends, and use it to coat tied on nock points.  

do you *need* to glue the servings?  NO, but the added insurance of the glue is worth doing.
Title: Re: Using Super glue on a serving?
Post by: Bowwild on August 15, 2010, 07:21:00 AM
I was writing a training manual in 2005. I was advised by another person to put a drop of super glue on the tied on nock locator which is on the center serving. Made sense to me.  However, I called Brownell, one of the big makers of bow string fibers.  They told me not to do it.  They said the glue can soak through the serving into the bowstring material.  They've tested the technique and found that bow strings will break at these locations. So, I advised against the practice in the manual.  I simply melt the tag ends and matt them down with my finger tips.

I can tell above that this advice is counter to the experience of many of you. I figure it is these folks business and they probably hear a lot of horror stories.
Title: Re: Using Super glue on a serving?
Post by: David Mitchell on August 15, 2010, 07:27:00 AM
I have no idea why anyone needs to put super glue on a properly made serving  :confused: .  If the ends are correctly back served and tight I can't see how they would unravel.  Mine never do. Maybe somebody can enlighten me.
Title: Re: Using Super glue on a serving?
Post by: Rob DiStefano on August 15, 2010, 07:41:00 AM
it's (the glue) just added insurance.

fwiw, i've spun many thousands of strings over the last 50+ years, and have been using cya glue on all whipped servings for at least the last 25 years.  never a failure.  

yes, the glue can 'soak through the serving' (thin cya has a high wicking factor) and if the string fiber (not the server) isn't waxed it will do so.  i see no problem and have had no issues with glue seeping in and around waxed or unwaxed string fiber material.
Title: Re: Using Super glue on a serving?
Post by: frassettor on August 15, 2010, 08:38:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by David Mitchell:
I have no idea why anyone needs to put super glue on a properly made serving   :confused:  .  If the ends are correctly back served and tight I can't see how they would unravel.  Mine never do. Maybe somebody can enlighten me.
Sure I will enlighten you. I usually change my string every year and buy them from BW since 2 of my bows are BW. I put a new string on and noticed the ends of the serving "not right". so instead of wasting the $18.00 I paid for the string, I figured I would ask here first.
Title: Re: Using Super glue on a serving?
Post by: Jim's Mom on August 15, 2010, 11:48:00 AM
I use super glue on each end of the servings and on the thread I tie the silencers on with. No problems with it. The super glue is just extra insurance against the serving coming loose. Jim
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Post by: Owlmagnet on August 15, 2010, 12:00:00 PM
I've simply used a dab of Fletch-Tite, since I don't normally use much super glue.  Haven't had a problem; seems to work.
Title: Re: Using Super glue on a serving?
Post by: sendero25 on August 15, 2010, 03:34:00 PM
Fast flight string material is usually spectra or dyneema fiber, the same as the "super braid" fishing lines, and I also put a dab of super glue on my fishing knots just for a little insurance..never a breakage at the knot, and they have no serving to keep the glue from soaking in, just a direct application to the line.
(disclaimer: If your bowstring breaks, I wasn't here, and never said anything) LOL.
Title: Re: Using Super glue on a serving?
Post by: lpcjon2 on August 15, 2010, 07:49:00 PM
I like wax and a blow dryer on low to keep it all tight.
Title: Re: Using Super glue on a serving?
Post by: Craig on August 15, 2010, 08:10:00 PM
clear finger nail polish on the string nock
Title: Re: Using Super glue on a serving?
Post by: sunshine on August 16, 2010, 08:47:00 AM
superglue on a braided serving will not hurt anything. but if the glue gets on a bowstring that can be bad. enough glue will eat through bowstring strands. or it will coat the string so string wax can not get to the strands to protect them. drying the strands out and evenually breaking.
Title: Re: Using Super glue on a serving?
Post by: AkDan on August 16, 2010, 03:33:00 PM
hmm...if it's not right why not just reserve it?  A bjorn serving tool and a spool of serving is not very costly and will last a VERY long time!  

Something to note, the direction the string was served will loosen or tighten the serving depending on if it's a left or right handed shooter over time.   I dont bother to serve until the string needs it.  With the newer strings and serving materials they last quite awhile.   I will swap strings from time to time so most of them (my back ups) are in the same condition as my go to string.
Title: Re: Using Super glue on a serving?
Post by: lt-m-grow on August 16, 2010, 04:54:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by AkDan:
hmm...if it's not right why not just reserve it?  A bjorn serving tool and a spool of serving is not very costly and will last a VERY long time!  

That's what I was thinking.  I also take my serving tool on hunting trips in case I need to reserve mine or my hunting buddies strings.  Glue doesn't save them if they are busted.  I don't lose many servings really but if I do, it comes from a broken serving string from the arrow nock area.

And I have never had a serving unravel from the ends.

Having said that I do put a dab of glue on my tie on nock points with no problems.
Title: Re: Using Super glue on a serving?
Post by: Rob DiStefano on August 19, 2010, 03:29:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by sunshine:
superglue on a braided serving will not hurt anything. but if the glue gets on a bowstring that can be bad. enough glue will eat through bowstring strands. or it will coat the string so string wax can not get to the strands to protect them. drying the strands out and evenually breaking.
have you actually tested or seen "superglue" "eat" hmpe fiber?

CYAnoacrylate "super glue" will **NOT** "eat" or in any way harm hmpe string fiber.

for those not in the know, "hmpe" (high modulus polyetheylene) means brand names such as "fast flight", "dyneema", "dynaflight", "spectra", "vectran", and a whole buncha other trade names.
Title: Re: Using Super glue on a serving?
Post by: wihill on August 19, 2010, 03:51:00 PM
Superglue on serving is fine, Rich.

If you want - sometime I'll teach you how to serve a string so you can do it yourself if you ever feel the need to.
Title: Re: Using Super glue on a serving?
Post by: John Scifres on August 19, 2010, 04:16:00 PM
Here's another fun use for superglue.  Get a pile of osage sawdust and squirt a whole bunch of CA glue on it.  It smolders and smokes and makes you remember why you have a fire extinguisher in your shop  :)
Title: Re: Using Super glue on a serving?
Post by: Rob DiStefano on August 19, 2010, 04:19:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by John Scifres:
Here's another fun use for superglue.  Get a pile of osage sawdust and squirt a whole bunch of CA glue on it.  It smolders and smokes and makes you remember why you have a fire extinguisher in your shop   :)  
that smoking effect tells you the glue is fresh and good quality!  i look for it!
Title: Re: Using Super glue on a serving?
Post by: sstewa on August 19, 2010, 10:46:00 PM
Be careful of that smoke, too much can be toxic.  CA glue is used in fuming boxes to raise fingerprints, CSI stuff.  I've not used it on serving, but I have on my tie on nock points.  Applied with a toothpick I don't see a problem.