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Title: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: Winterhawk1960 on August 14, 2010, 11:46:00 AM
As most of ya'll already know, Mike (owlbait), Michael (Wapiti792), and myself have been "waiting" quite anxiously on our Stalker bows that we ordered from South Cox back in June. We all had our "first exposure" to South's bows at Compton this year and each of us ordered one as a result of this "exposure".

During the "short wait" of only about 6 weeks or so to have the bows built we were in contact with one-another through PM's here on Trad Gang. It turned out that all of our bows were made in the same batch and we all got them within a day or two of each other this past week.

My bow didn't arrive until late in the day on my only day off this week so I didn't have any time to shoot it until last evening. Here is my "brief report" on my findings and a few pictures so that South's craftsmanship can be admired.

I set the brace height at 7 1/2" and crimped on a brass nockset at about 1/2". I always wrap my string from below both loops up and through them with merino wool yarn, and for this bow I put on some mink fur strips for silencers at 1/3 points on my string. She was ready to do what she was built for and I was anxious to bend her limbs.

My findings are that she prefers my 35/55 GT's at factory length (30 1/2") with 50 grain brass inserts and 125 grain field tips. I also gave my AD Trad Lite Hammerheads a go, they shot pretty well but once again the 35/55's grouped the best for me. I knew the string was going to stretch and settle.....so I kept an eye on the brace height. South recommends something between 7 1/4" to 7 1/2" and it finally settled in at 7 3/8". The nocking point might need to be played with a little bit, but right now it's still 1/2".

My bow arrived with high expectations on my part and it has both met and exceeded them. The grip on these bows just melts around your hand and that makes a consistant grip a reality without any thought to make it happen. The woods that South used for my bow were something that I had been wanting to try for quite some time and he sure picked them and crafted them into something that is very pleasing to the eyes, or at least they are to mine.

The bow is smooth on the draw, and not a bit of handshock when you turn one loose. It points very well and jumps towards the target with ease. It does everything that a well built and designed bow should do when I do my part. I am very pleased with everything from the short "wait time".......all the way up to being exactly the way I wanted it to look and perform. I will be the only weak link in the bow being a killing machine, and can only hope that I can do her justice this fall.

I also want to take this time to publicly thank South Cox for being such a pleasure to work with and talk to. He truly loves what he does and will do his absolute best to give you exactly what you want. There isn't a doubt in my mind that his "wait time" will increase as people get exposed to his bows. The looks and performance is second to none and he will go far as a bowyer.

So............without any further adoooo. Here she is !!!!

Winterhawk1960

Stalker "Striker" Recurve - cocobolo and osage with eastern red cedar laminations.

(http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff351/Winterhawk1960/P1060650.jpg)

(http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff351/Winterhawk1960/P1060660.jpg)

(http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff351/Winterhawk1960/P1060661.jpg)

(http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff351/Winterhawk1960/P1060670.jpg)

(http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff351/Winterhawk1960/P1060658.jpg)

(http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff351/Winterhawk1960/P1060669.jpg)
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: Winterhawk1960 on August 14, 2010, 11:51:00 AM
A few more.........of the beautiful eastern red cedar supplied by our very own kennym (thanks Kenny)

Winterhawk1960

(http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff351/Winterhawk1960/P1060672.jpg)

(http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff351/Winterhawk1960/P1060662.jpg)

(http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff351/Winterhawk1960/P1060663.jpg)

(http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff351/Winterhawk1960/P1060657.jpg)

(http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff351/Winterhawk1960/P1060665.jpg)

Did I say this was NICE osage........

(http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff351/Winterhawk1960/P1060659.jpg)
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: ScottV_7 on August 14, 2010, 11:53:00 AM
Beautiful bow!  I met South at Denton and he couldn't have been a nicer guy.  His work looks top notch too.
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: Winterhawk1960 on August 14, 2010, 11:54:00 AM
owlbait.......and wapiti792.......feel free to add comments and pictures of YOUR bows.

Winterhawk1960
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: babs on August 14, 2010, 12:26:00 PM
awesome looking I love that osage
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: owlbait on August 14, 2010, 12:34:00 PM
Don, too busy shooting, will add pics later. I rec'd my bow the same day as Don. Well, my neighbor rec'd it as UPS did not ask for a signature. I was able to put my hands on it the following day. The veneers exceeded my expectations, partly because I decided to go with different veneers back to belly. I had never heard of flame madrone before but my research showed it to have a reddish color to it. I have been wanting to have myrtle veneers for a long time. I was very happy with my choices. Like Don said, my SURGE model Stalker nods towards the target on release, grip is ultra repeatable. The string does stretch a bit so I am working to get it tuned in. Pics later.
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: Bowwild on August 14, 2010, 12:37:00 PM
Cool bow. I thought it was cocobolo and osage until I read your posts. The red cedar looks very nice. Would you consider this bow light (like Blacktails) medium (Predators) or heavy like Schafer Silvertips?
Thanks
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: kennym on August 14, 2010, 12:41:00 PM
SWEET!!  :thumbsup:  

Does it have some carbon in there?
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: helo on August 14, 2010, 12:46:00 PM
Congrats on the new bow I will be on the order list in a couple of months I did a test drive and I loved it. Enjoy the bow great pictures!    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: wapiti792 on August 14, 2010, 02:04:00 PM
Don what a BEAUTY! I will have pictures up when I get home tomorrow. I have been out of town with the family did my last triathlon of the year in Alabama. My Stalker arrived while I was gone, and it has been killing me knowing I am WAAAY down here and it's WAAAY up there. I am so happy for you man! You're right about one thing: I think South's wait times are gonna go up after people see and shoot his bows...also hear he has a longbow in the works. Better start saving  :)
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: Winterhawk1960 on August 14, 2010, 04:06:00 PM
Bowwild,

I haven't owned or shot a Predator nor a Schafer so I have no way of comparing it to either of those.

I have shot both a Hummingbird recurve and a Black Widow recurve which I would consider a "heavy" bow.

I would consider a Blacktail (takedown, not the one-piece) a medium weight bow. The only "light" bow that I have shot and would consider light weight would be a one piece Centaur or a Treadway.

I'd say it comes in as a "medium" weight bow leaning towards the "heavy" end. I prefer, or at least tend to shoot better the heavier bows but this can and will vary depending on your choice of woods in the riser.

It is a very stable bow.......holds nicely and as Mike said above, it "nods" towards the target after release very well. To me, the grip on a bow is the most important part in me being able to shoot it consistantly. I prefer the grips that allow me to not be concerned with how I'm holding it so much, with enough mass weight that it isn't "waving" all over the place while I'm at full draw.

This one fits the bill VERY WELL.

Kenny,

Nope........no carbon at all, just has bamboo cores. To be honest with you I prefer the wood cores and wood laminations over the foam and carbon......but that is just me. I also, have this "weakness" for PRETTY woods that compliment, yet contrast each other well. I think I picked a WINNER here.

Michael,

When you return home and get a chance to "play" with your new acquisition......PLEASE post your opinions here also. I'm betting that your gonna like it !!!

Winterhawk1960
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: owlbait on August 14, 2010, 04:23:00 PM
The limbs do have a single laminate of Core Tuff to keep the limbs stable. My pal Tom Cable use to use something similar called e-Glass back in the early 90's for the same purpose. Seems to help performance too.
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: KHALVERSON on August 14, 2010, 04:29:00 PM
winterhawk
the wood combos you chose look awesome
i was thinking of cocabola and figured maple
when i get enough funds gathered up to order the striker model
bowwild
i shot owlbaits surge and the mass weight is very close to my predator
when i shot souths bows at compton this year
they quickly moved to the top of my must have list and owlbaits bow shot just like i remembered them
i can see stalker recurves being very busy in the near future
kevin
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: rastaman on August 14, 2010, 06:12:00 PM
Pretty nice looking bow you got there sir!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: Sixby on August 14, 2010, 06:42:00 PM
I'd like to see a profile of the entire bow. Looks pretty neat so far.God bless, Steve
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: Horner on August 14, 2010, 06:50:00 PM
That bow is dead SEXY!!!!  Congrats!!!   :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:    :archer:
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: Winterhawk1960 on August 14, 2010, 06:52:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Horner:
That bow is dead SEXY!!!!  Congrats!!!    :thumbsup:      :thumbsup:      :thumbsup:      :campfire:  

Winterhawk1960
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: owlbait on August 14, 2010, 08:24:00 PM
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa7/owlbait/IMG_0419.jpg)
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa7/owlbait/IMG_0418.jpg)
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Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: owlbait on August 14, 2010, 08:30:00 PM
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa7/owlbait/IMG_0414.jpg)
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa7/owlbait/IMG_0413.jpg)
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa7/owlbait/IMG_0411.jpg) (http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa7/owlbait/stalkerbellytip.jpg)
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: Winterhawk1960 on August 14, 2010, 10:42:00 PM
Nice looking bow......Mike !!!!

It looks better in natural light, I think. The flame madrone and curly myrtle really match up to the riser well......You did well in those choices.

Now......give us a shooting report.

Winterhawk1960
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: owlbait on August 15, 2010, 09:42:00 AM
Well, 7 1/8" brace height, 9/16 nock high, three under with various AD shafts and fletching. Bow is very quiet, I installed the BowHush, and Bow Puppies before shooting. The grip is the MOST repeatable grip I have ever shot. My hand goes on the grip like slipping into a glove. The bow "nods" straight toward the target on release. Smooth load on the limbs, and I don't notice any handshock. As quick or quicker then my other bows at the same weight. This one is 50#@28" and I'm drawing to 29". My buddy has a chrono that we plan to play with soon just to compare our bows. I would like to get a digital bow scale just to keep better notes and comparison with. All in all, an A+. Looks cool, shoots great.
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: wapiti792 on August 16, 2010, 10:07:00 AM
Pics are coming guys...so much to unpack after our week away. However, I opened the box, put her together and put some arrows down range. Holy cow it shoots good...more to come this evening!
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: Winterhawk1960 on August 16, 2010, 10:18:00 AM
:thumbsup:    :thumbsup:  

Looking forward to hearing your findings.

Winterhawk1960
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: Winterhawk1960 on August 16, 2010, 10:19:00 AM
.........and the pictures are a must.
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: Over&Under on August 16, 2010, 12:36:00 PM
Winterhawk, that is one of the best looking bows I ever seen hands down!!  South is a true Craftsman!
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: Blacktail101 on August 16, 2010, 02:06:00 PM
i would like to congratulate you on a beautiful stalker bow i hope you have much success and memories to come
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: bornagainbowhunter on August 16, 2010, 03:47:00 PM
Real nice guys, those are some sweet wood choices too.
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: DW Dyer on August 16, 2010, 05:40:00 PM
Those are certainly some nice looking bows!
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: fnshtr on August 16, 2010, 09:08:00 PM
Beautiful bow Don, Mike... WOW!

Hey Don... maybe after my elk hunt we can get together and shoot. I leave this weekend.

Wayne
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: Winterhawk1960 on August 16, 2010, 09:18:00 PM
I'd love to do that Wayne.....both time and work have gotten away from me this year. In today's job market, I'm just glad that I have a job that pays the bills and leaves a "little bit" for the finer things in life.

Best of luck to you......bring an elk steak or two back to West Virginia. That's one thing that I haven't had the pleasure to enjoy.......yet.

Winterhawk1960
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: wapiti792 on August 17, 2010, 12:00:00 AM
Ok so I got this box that has been sitting in my office for a week in Illinois while I am in Alabama doing a triathlon and vacationing with the family. I raced home yesterday after my race to get to this box. It had been killing me!

       (http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/tractor001.jpg)

When I opened the box I thought no way this is what I ordered. I actually thought South at Stalker has sent me someone else's bow. I asked for a no-frills grey actionwood bow. A no-nonsense hunter/beater than I can drag through the elk highlands and whitetails lowlands. Well, I got that (sort of). I kinda already knew because South had sent pics. However, the photo didn't do it justice:

 
       (http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/tractor005-1.jpg)

I think this bow is about as pretty to look at as any I've seen. Coarse beauty is in the eye of the bow-holder. You know I did ask for was a plain-jane grey bow and that is darn purty to me!

 (http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/tractor009.jpg)  

     
Seriously what I got were some little extras that South found to match well. A little Bubinga in the fades and a little rosewood stripe in the riser. I couldn't have asked for more. It blends in well with the deer woods.
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: wapiti792 on August 17, 2010, 12:30:00 AM
Okay having a little resize trouble so that is all I want to load to keep from shot-putting my laptop.

Here are the specs on my bow and a little review: It is the STEALTH model, 62 inch, Grey Actionwood, Bubinga fades, Rosewood stripe. It is 57 at 29 inches. I currently have the brace set at 7.5 inches, and nocked a little higher, at 3/4 in. I shoot 3 under and anchor low. All my bows are like that. I say all: I am down to 2 and after shooting this bow for a little bit I can't see a change in the near future.

I am shooting a 605 grain arrow: Trad Only 300 with a normal insert and a 250 grain head. Arrow is 30.5 inches. I tell ya what: I am not a speed guy. I don't care. I want an arrow to hit the heart/lungs, and I want results, not numbers. Having said that, this bow smokes that arrow!

I told myself I would not take this bow hunting in 2 weeks in WY because I would not have the time to shoot it and prepare. Scratch that! It fits my hand great, the grip is butter, the draw is smooth and when I get some hush-puppies from Terry, it will be quiet. It is going mulie hunting, and cow elk hunting, and whitetail hunting, and mouse/hamster/shrew hunting if the season is in  ;)  I LOVE THIS BOW!
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: NorthernCaliforniaHunter on August 17, 2010, 01:12:00 AM
Very, very nice. Congratulations!
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: fnshtr on August 17, 2010, 09:13:00 AM
You know the old saying... "beauty is in the eye of the BOWHOLDER"... or something like that! Those are really beautiful bows.

Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: owlbait on August 17, 2010, 12:26:00 PM
Mike(Wapiti) strike first for the Stalker Support Group! I agree, South adds what to him are probably subtle nuances that really seem to jump out and say WOW! Good look in Wyoming.
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: wapiti792 on August 17, 2010, 02:42:00 PM
Thanks man. I am 15 days and a plane ride...can't wait to go get 'em with my new bow!
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on August 18, 2010, 02:43:00 PM
Congrats guys!
Those are some sweet look'n bows!
Good Luck on your upcoming season!
I've started my own support group in Hawaii.  :D  We've got a couple here and a few more on the way.

Ryan
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: cacciatore on August 18, 2010, 05:36:00 PM
Beautyful bows,all 3.Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: Jmatt1957 on August 18, 2010, 06:13:00 PM
Don  If I ever get to order a new bow I'm going to let you pic the wood combo.
Title: Re: The "Stalker Support Group" Picture Thread
Post by: Winterhawk1960 on August 18, 2010, 10:04:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Jmatt1957:
Don  If I ever get to order a new bow I'm going to let you pic the wood combo.
It would be an honor.......Jim. Just give me a shout.  :goldtooth:  

Winterhawk1960