I was reading in a magazine today, I know this is what I get for reading. The article was about HECS (Human Energy Concealment System) I know this is probably just another scam, but there are people much smarter than me that might be able to provide some insite.
In theory this suit helps conceal the electromagntic field we put off. I have had deer walk directly at me in a stand and look directly up at me when I have never moved.
Perhaps deer and other animals have some sort of 6th sense that allows them to follow certain paths, like migratory paths. Do you folks think there is any validity to this?
Animals can probably detect direction better than me so in theory suppressing my electromagntic field might work.
Any thoughts?
Scott
Don't swallow the swill brother! Fish can sense electic fields due to the conductivity of water. Air does not conduct electricity well enough to allow mammals to feel your charge.
Load of old cobblers, if you ask me.
Although I'm sick that I didn't think of it first. Maybe I ought to come up wih a 'Magic Hat' that hides your evil intents from deer. I could make millions. MILLIONS!!!!! HAAAAAAhahahahaha!!!!!!
That is one of the most preposterous theories I have yet heard.(like man-made global warming).
Even if it were true, I certainly wouldn't purchase said HECS "snake oil" suit.
No offense, but P.T. Barnum's famous quote comes to mind on this one.
There is a guy on another forum I'm on(He's a pro shooter for that company)that said he had good experiences using the suit.I wouldn't spend the money on one but just saying what he said about it.If it works great,if it don't then oh well.
...just use two layers when you wrap your head in aluminum foil...layering is good.....
Aren't theories proven by scientific fact? That means it works tarponnut, you really confused me. I've been told I have a lot of animal magnetism so there could be something to it. Ask someone from OSU to check Wikipedia for good information :bigsmyl: There is no man made global warming and the Earth is still flat!
Sounds like what cows leave in the fields to me.
Swallow and earth magnet before you go hunting it will attract all the animals to you. ;)
Really makes you wonder how folks have been killing deer all this time without a suit like this.
Will this suit interfere with the tin foil I wear on my head to hide my location from the martians????
as far as deer " looking right at me" I dont think it your magnetic field It has been proven that deer see the ultraviolet spectrum much better than we do. Certain laundry detergents with brighteners added make us glow when seen through a deers eyes. I am sure that guys will be successful wearing this suit, but I bet they are also sitting still and quiet, with the wind in their favor, in a place with good deer movement. Aluminunm foil in your hat wont afffect the deer, but it will keep Aliens from abducting you and taking you away in their spaceships.
I wonder if they make a tarp out of that stuff so I could throw it over the cargo trailer full of other gadgets that I "must" take in the woods with me if I'm ever to harvest so much as a rabbit.
Honestly I think the only thing you really need is good woodsmenship and that can't be sold(sorry archery industry bigwigs)
While I'm doubtful of the presence of any "real" science, The concept is interesting.
Twice in my lifetime, I've been able to reach out and touch a deer with my hand; numerous instances of within 5-6 feet.....guess they must've had a short in their EMF detector :saywhat:
Might save ya from a shark!
I want one of robtattoo's 'magic hats' lol.
Get some marketed!
http://www.hecsllc.com
When my buddy e-mailed me the videos I knew it had to be a joke, but it's true. I guess there really is no limit to people's gullibility.
I say buy one ! then get an I-renew bracelet to bring your body back to its proper balance :saywhat:
the biggest crook of whoey I heard since "forget the wind and hunt 360"
Joe
I'm gonna market a degaussing system for your hunting rig, so all your gear will be EMF invisible!
QuoteI have had deer walk directly at me in a stand and look directly up at me when I have never moved.
The deer know the forest like you know the street in front of your house. If you walked out one morning and saw a deer statue in your neighbor's yard, it would immediately catch your eye and you would look at it, because it wasn't there before. After a while, you would decide it was a statue and go on about your business. I've had deer do the same thing to me, but if all that happens is they see something that looks strange, but it doesn't smell strange or sound strange or move, they will probably ignore it and continue on.
As far as electromagnetic supression is concerned? I dunno.....
Do you really think the companies statements are based on anything more than carefully selected marketing BS to take money from their target market?
There just pursuing the almighty "Profit" and will claim whatever they can get away with to get it!
If human magnetic fields are strong enough to pass thru the air and be detected by a deer how come my compass isn't effected?
Perhaps I should send this one to mythbusters. I think its a load of you know what too. I sure won't be purchasing a suit anytime soon, but I do think its an unique idea.
I am with what some else said. I wish I would have thought of the idea. I would be rich because people are definately going to be purchasing it to go under their scent lok.
The funniest thing I see on TV is on hunting shows. The camera films a big buck that bolts, the camera then swings to the hunter and the hunter says "he got down wind and smelled us" all along between camera guy and hunter there is over $1000 of scent suppressant hunting gear.
Scott
I didn't fall for the Scent Lok claims and I will run from this idea as fast as I can. Keep clean, unscented shampoos and soaps, minimize sweating going to and from the stand, and pay attention to the wind. I've been known to carry zip lok bags with a wet wash cloth inside. If I sweat going to the stand event though I'm lightly dressed going in, I will strip the top shirt off, wash off, put a clean one on and zip lok the soiled one.
I am a Skeptic of the Validity of those products.
I beat robtattoo to the "magic hat" development.
Here's what I dood. I lined my "Packer" Bailey with aluminum foil. That reflects all the thoughts that may be picked up by alert deers, back into my head!
(Also stops them gamma rays from zippin' through my brain, disruptin my train of thought!)
Energy concealment clothing!?! What a load of sh*te!
I tape two cow magnets to my upper and lower bow limbs to break up my personal magnetism. You have to reverse the polarity if your south of the equator. Believe it or don't, thats my theory and I'm sticking to it.
Please don't tell me your going to invest in this clothing...if you do...well...Ciccone and I know of this bridge in Brooklyn....
:eek: :saywhat: :nono:
My opion is, keep it simple and keep it fun. You don't need the expensive clothing or gagets to kill deer. I would say that most people on this site have had deer look at them. I have to go my laser guided arrows were just delivered. LOL :knothead:
Human EMF (http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2004-04/1081903312.Gb.r.html)
I've heard this clothing will eventually destroy your body's ability to produce goose bumps. Then where would all the fun be?
As much as I pooh-pooh things like this I will admist that I try not to look a deer in the eye if it looks towards me.
And I never lay my ears back if a shooter comes near!
I like to wear a spaghetti strainer on my head, painted a dull color, of course. This is hooked up to a battery pack (12 Volt) which I carry in a foil fanny pack. The wires are routed down my back and into the pack. This also doubles as a "tens" unit if my back gets sore. Add to this a full camo wetsuit (no fins) and voila! Weatherproof, scentproof, feeling no pain--there is nowhere else to go after this......
Jeeesh.. Now I understand why the Rifle hunters do so well hunting powerlines... It negates the EMF fields of the deer!!! NOT!!!
As for Professional hunters... Most are decent guys, whose job is to utilize products that sponsors are trying to sell to the general hunting public.. Saying something is useless or worthless is like walking up to your boss; giving him the finger and proceeding to tell him how you really feel deep down inside... Not only would he not be your boss for very long... but you'd probably not be able to work for anyone he has any association with...
The product will probably sell very well... It reminds me of the geico commercial with R Lee Emery as a therapist.... SELF-CONFIDENCE!!!
I hope none of that stuff works. When they can't see you, smell you, sense your magnetic field or anything else and and you walk up to the pile of cmere deer and shoot em with your crossbow why bother?
Nothing wrong with the theory behind it. Everything alive radiates a constantly changing EM field.
One has to be pretty insensitive to not be able to sense when they are around an agitated person, or feel love from a spouse.
I'll save the money on the high tech clothing, and put on my faded cotton predator camo.
Rather than sitting there worrying about my credit card bill or thinking about killing the biggest deer I can find, I'd recommend thinking about how beautiful nature is, or how fortunate one is to have the time to just sit in a tree for hours.
Rather than trying to hide my EM field with clothing, I'll make an effort to tune my thinking and emotions so when a deer comes close, I'm sending out happy and relaxed, instead of agitated and desperate to kill! What do you guys think of that, LOL?
Well said Downsouth
To everyone about to invest in this clothing to supress your electro magnetic emmisions, as long as you have your checkbook out, I have an outstanding opportunity for you on some Rice farms around Tempe, Arizona that I am selling and I would be willing to let you in on the "ground floor". Approximately how many are interested out there?
It has been a few years since this made its appearance. Has anyone actually used itt? Is ask as they were at NABA two weeks ago. I guy I have known for years-as a distributor of products we buy- was next to them at the show. I voiced my skepticisms. And he offered he has used it and found it to work for him, in his hunting situations. Just wondering if 8 years changed anybody's mind????
When the average hunter meets science, the result is always messy.
How does one "prove"it works ? While wearing it a deer came by ? Deer come by all the time.
My totally unscientific opinion is: Hokey!!!
I have the same opinion of the copper bracelet that gives you energy and the magic ball with no soap that washes your clothes.
Those things can do something for the confidence level of the "believer", which is not a bad thing at all.
Bisch
I have very little energy to conceal so it won't help me I'm bettin! :biglaugh:
It's hokey, of course. But if it did work, would sort of take fair chase out of the equation, wouldn't it.
If everyone on this thread sends me $10, I will buy one and try it out this next year.......just saying.
I seen KennyM wearing one last fall.. I swear I did...
There were guys who swore it worked based on how squirrels reacted to their being in the trees. The video showed a guy crawling out in a field and then a turkey. Like i said, camera aangles can be used to make a point. I hoping to find an unbiased opinion or two. Seems we have like opinions so we will not stock them
I think camo is a waste of time most of the time.
I've been using one for two years and will not bowhunt without it now.
When I walked any where near my TV with the digital antenna, it would throw it out of wack. I must have a very strong electric magnetic field. However, I am also sure that my electric magnetic field drifts with the wind. For deer that look up at people in a tree stand, sometimes scent goes down, sometimes people are thinking they are motionless when they are not, deer can see up, out and down, and are not as blind as we often wish they were, up in a tree a big blob of dark camo looks like something dangerous to a deer.
You can test your argon energy. Breathe on on finger tips lie you would if you cleaning your glasses. Then with your fingers stretched out bring your finger tips closer together, you will feel the energy before they touch. This reminds me of a guy that chain smoked cigarettes from a six foot high stand hunting with the wind at his back that wore scent shield camo. He blamed me for wearing non scent shield wool 300 yards from him for the deer snorting and running off that were downwind of him.