Please give model and weight of broadhead as well as bow and arrow info. Thanks for the help!
I use a Black Widow MAX 53@28 with 28" swaged 2018's with 5.25 shield cut feathers and 145 grain Snuffers.
rose oak tomcat 51# @28"
52.5# at my draw
29.5" 500 spine beamen ics bowhunters, 4-4" parabolic feathers, 220 grain SS muzzy phantoms.
29.5" carbon express heritage 150's, 4-4" parabolic feathers, 50 grain inserts, 150 grain woodsmans.
One tuned to your setup and spins perfect.
SteveB,I think nailed it.Just about any broadhead should fly well if the setup is truly tuned and the broadhead is mounted properly and spins true.I am using 190 and 200 gr Grizzly El Grandes out of 50-55# bows and they fly at least as well as my field points out to 35 yds.I spent a lot of time bare shafting and fine tuning with the broadheads plus I use a spinning jig to make sure they are mounted perfectly and spin true.I also set up some arrows with 160 gr STOS,on a lighter bow with the same results.I believe most broadhead flight problems are really tuning issues.
JimB hit er on the head.My 5 or 6 go to bows Widow SA's and Shrew.2213's with 5" dowel up front ,75 gr steel adapter and 125 gr Zwick Eskimo 4 blade.Same with 2018,2020 and CXL250 all with 5-1/2' helical.All fly great.Bow weights55,58 and 60.
I agree with JimB. I've only shot 4 broadheads from my recurve set-up: G5 Montec Stainless, Bear Razorhead 2-blade, Magnus Stinger 2-blade, and Strickland Helix single bevel 2-blade. All are 100 grains and fly great and group with the field tips.
My set ups are a bit varied. The bows are all 44-48 pounds. I'm shooting two arrows:
Arrow 1: Beeman MFX 600, 27.5" long, 3, 4" feathers, 70 grain insert and 100 grain broadhead. Weight 424 grains.
Arrow 2: Easton 1916 Legacy with swaged nock replaced with uni-busing push-in, 3, 4" feathers, 27.5" shaft, ~24 grain insert, 100 grain broadhead -weight 416 grains.
All I have tried shoot the same. Get a bare shaft to fly perfect, decent higher f.o.c., and I have not found any difference- they all shoot like field pts. Hope that helps.
Dan in KS
QuoteOriginally posted by SteveB:
One tuned to your setup and spins perfect.
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Thanks guys!
I remember a frustrating time in Colorado back in 1977. My broadheads wouldn't fly worth a snot. I thought it was the broadhead; bears, satellites, and savora ( the last two I would consider junk today). I didn't know much about bow tuning in those days and blamed poor arrow flight on the broadhead. I spent a lot of money (for me) trying to find a "good" broadhead. First doe muley I had a shot at the dad-burned arrow wind-planed half a body length -- fortunately I missed her.
Wish I knew then....
Any.
Thanks again, I enjoy the info. I also like to hear about your hunting setup.
QuoteOriginally posted by JimB:
most broadhead flight problems are really tuning issues.
I wish more people understood that.
I know a lot about tuning compounds, but I know very little about recurves.
I shoot a Great Northern Ghost, 65lbs. I have always used ash shafts with heavy BHs. I liked the 190 Ribteks for a long time. Last year I switched to the 160 Snuffers. Wish they made a heavier BH.
You will be hard pressed to find a broadhead that is as easy to tune as the Muzzy Phantom.
Thanks guys, anyone else want to share?
my stuff is bare shaft tuned so Any broadhead thats mounted straight will fly perfect. BUT I think my 1st choice for this year
Palmer classic 53@28--Heritage 150's with 225gr left bevel wide centaurs & abowyers and 3 LW EV Howler's.
Widow PSA 45@28 -- Heritage 90's with 200gr (trimmed inserts) and abowyer 1st & magnus 1's 2nd and the smaller centaurs 3rd (because of the lighter weight) 3 4" LW shields..
I had a wide two blade fly erratic in a strong trailer cross wind. I had killed several deer with the same setup in different situations, but not with a quartering tail wind. I have since used Hills and Grizzlies, because they behave themselves in the wind. 160 grains, on 2018s with a 60 pound super kodiak.
With a helical twist to your fletch; and making sure that the broadheads are on straight- they should all fly the same.
I shot in broadhead tournaments with my kodiak recurve and I am satisfied that a 2 blade zwickey delta can shoot totally perfectly.
I shoot longbow now; and I still use zwickey deltas -- and love em.
Looks like broadheads are like bows every one has there favorites . Mine happens to be Magnus Stingers, they fly where I'm looking and leave a great blood trail so I guess I'm hooked on them.
Great plains Rio Bravo 55@28" 55-60 spine cedar with 160 grain Simmons Interceptors fly like dart .Total arrow weight is 575 grains.My draw length is 27"
Gen- sent you a PM
My heaviest arrow setup in conjunction with my two bows' specs. Both bows are cut 3/16" past center. I also use a tab.
Blacktail TD Recurve: 66", 42# @ 30". BS: 14StrDyna97. BrcHt: 7 1/4". NP: 5/8". Arrow: 32", 2117. PW: 215 Grains. BH: STOS 145 Grain. AW: 652 Grains. GPP: (15.52). FOC: 16.7%
Blacktail TD Recurve: 66", 37# @ 30". BS: 13StrDyna97. BrcHt: 7 5/8". NP: 5/8". Arrow: 32", 2114. PW: 190 Grain. BH: STOS 160 Grains. AW: 559 Grains. GPP: (15.10). FOC: 16.2%
125gr Magnus Stingers 4 or 2 blade and Woodsman Elite on my GT 35-55 out of my 49@28 Blackwidow SAX or on my GT 55-75 with a 100grn brass insert out of my Schafer silvertip 55@28. Widow
Thanks everyone, I am having a lot of fun switching from a compound to recurve.
Gen273, I knjow that feeling! I'm shooting a Zipper 60" 50lb@27 inch. I pull about 27.5 inches. Trying to tune in some Alaskan Grizzly Woodies (400s). Not flying too well yet with 200 grain field points. I've got to change some things, and may try to cut down in small increments the 29.5 inch arrows. I've got a new string to install, etc. and then will try again with lighter points... maybe some 175 gr. tips.
I was hoping to use the Grizz El Grandes' but with a long adpater, they are 204 gr... I expect to knock a lot of that off sharpening them.
BH design is not a factor for good arrow flight,but a well tuned set up is the key.As others have already explained you have to fine tune your arrow spine to your bow weight at your draw lenght,then all the point of the same wait fly exactly the same.
textrout,, unless you really have to don't cut the shafts down anymore,, unless your tuning with one arrow and then you can finish the whole batch at the correct specs you need..
we have so many head weights along with insert weights along with point-insert weights that you should be able to tune anything,,,, grizz 400's out of 52# try to shoot a 250gr field point (125gr broadhead + 125 gr steel head-adaptor/insert) and see what happens..