Im pretty new to trad archery so im not that good at tying in my serving so i have been using a nock.
I do have one bow that a friend tied a nocking point on for me but i can't tell any difference when shooting my other bows.
Just wondering what other hunters are doing, thanks.
Tying a nock is not hard they have a how to in the how to section on the main page.
Tie on my own. I have never cared for brass nockset.
Something i forgot to mention is i shoot 3 under, not sure if that matters or not.
I use a brass nock above my nocking point, I shoot 3 under. Tried the tied in ones and they worked well for a month or two and then came apart. Probable did it wrong. A brass nock, once I clamp it on the string, seems to last until the string wears out.
CKR
rice that's exactly what i was wondering because i see no difference in my shooting either way.
Im sure i will be able to tie my own serving with practice but if i can shoot just as good with a nock i don't see the point.
I shoot 3 under and tie on a nock above and below the arrow. They do wear out after a while. It helps if I start out with a pretty snug fit, as it seems to loosen up a little after I shoot a few arrows.
One advantage of a tied-on nock is that it seems less likely than a brass nock to cut your face or nose when you shoot. Also, I just like the looks of a tied-on nock.
Brass nock here. Much easier and more adjustable. You do want to check the nock after adjusting it with nocking pliers to make sure you haven't left any sharp edges.
I've used both, I'll stick with the brass for the same reasons that Jeff stated above.
Brass nock mostly, when I tie a nock point on I always put a drop of super glue on it and they seem to last a long time. But either works for me. I shoot 3 under!
Brass ones tear up tabs and gloves.
Fie on them, I say, fie!
Killdeer :deadhorse:
....What she said.
i like the brass ones, easier to cange if needed after a brace heigth change or something, and last for ever
No brass for me....me and my shooting gloves love dental floss.
Question: If you DO use a tied on nock, how do you adjust it till you get perfect flight?
I start out brass and when I like the location go to floss.
I start out as Bjorn suggests. Then when I think I have it, I tie on a nock. The tied on nock can be screwed up or down the serving, if you didn't get it exactly right. Once it is exactly where you want it, you put a drop of super-glue on it to hold it in place.
Once the upper nock is working for me, and glued down, I tie on the lower nock.
I got some mil surplus dental floss at a gun show, works great but doesn't have that minty smell at full draw.
Guy
I started with brass years ago and still use them today... Easy to "tune" and once set will not need any maintenance...
John III
Brass nocks seem to cut my nose when i shoot, so naturally I prefer tied nocks.
I am now using a brass nock on top and a tied-on nock below. I shoot three under.
QuoteOriginally posted by Johan van Niekerk:
Question: If you DO use a tied on nock, how do you adjust it till you get perfect flight?
If you don't tie it really tight you can screw it up and down the serving, raising and lowering your nocking point. Once you get it perfect a dab of glue keeps it in place.
I have done both. Seems like brass more now. Still use dental floss once in a blue moon when the mood strikes me. Listen to Killy, file, file, make em smooth!
I like the tied on nock and have not gone back to brass. They are easy on the fingers when target shooting. I also believe the brass nock can cause some arrow nocks to fly off the arrow if not glued on properly. :archer2:
Brass for me. Twenty years now and I've never been cut by one.
I've been tying on my nocks since I started shooting traditional about 15 years or more ago.It's not hard to do,requires no tool and just looks and feels more traditional to me.And it won't by chance scatch to bow when unstrung.
No brass for me either. I tie mine on. It's super easy.
I am with John3, brass has never let me down.
Brass simple and bullet proof.
I tie mine on. Been doing it for years and just like the look
:archer2:
I tie on my nocks. There is a turorial on here how to tie one tht you twist to adjust up and down. Once you got it right, glue it in place.
I just switched to tying on my knocks. As others here have mentioned, I was starting to have problems hitting my nose and the brass ones were cutting me pretty good.
Dax
Here's a link.
Tie on by Rob (http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=054849;p=4)
Brass nockset for me. No maintenance. Never had a problem with the brass nock tearing up my tab.
There is an average of 3 fps difference in arrow speed when you use a brass nock. Slower,. Also they tend to move. As some have already written its easy to adjust a tied nock by screwing it up and down on the string. When in place a drop of super glue and its set in place. You never have to worry again about it slipping. I learned about nocks years ago shooting unlimited ibos . I cannot remember ever seeing a pro using a clamp on nock. They cannot afford to drop targets because something moved. I feel the same way about elk. :archer2:
I always have tied on my nocks even when it wasn't "cool". They weigh less (if that matters) and there has been many occasions where they have caused compression failures in strings. I saw it when I would re-serve strings when I worked at an archery shop. After unwrapping the old serving many times there were broken strands.
3 under isn't an issue with which type of nock set you use, if you need one above and below it seems like it would be the same regardless.
Hope it helps you.
Brass nocking point and serving wrapped under the arrow nock.
Brass nocks. Used them for years with no problems. I shoot split.
Me too, doesn't bother my KP300 tabs at all.
All mine are all brass but on my fav glove it cut a hole in it so now I want to tie them on instead. Killdeer and I chatted about this over the weekend and her bow strings look cool. :D
If I have a crimp on nock I'll use it. If not I'll tie one. I shoot 3 under so my glove doesn't touch.
I use the adjustable tie in method in the how to section. When done right it lasts and Is easy to move just by twisting it up your serving. My new favorite!
Magnus
I have shot brass for the 13 years since I came from the dark side with no ill affects but you all have me intrigued.
For the tie fans, what is your favorite material? I caught the mil surplus floss. Don't think the minty coating on normal dental floss would be a good thing (for nocks that is). I tie flies and have some colored floss that would look cool - might try that.
I have noticed that the brass nocks scratch my face when there not turned just right.
I anchor with my thumb and pointer finger behind my jaw so that leaves a lot of my right cheek in the way to get scratched.
Picaspot - I generally use serving string, since I have a few spools of it around. I use a contrasting color to the serving on the bowstring. I'm not sure that is the best thing to use, since it does wear out after several hundred shots, but it's not too hard to cut off and replace.
QuoteOriginally posted by DennyK:
Brass nocking point and serving wrapped under the arrow nock.
Same here. In 26 years of shooting, I've never had a brass nock set move, fly off, or cut me. I can't say any of the people I shoot with have told me they've had those experiences either.
Sometimes I think we, as a group, like to overcomplicate things just to be different.
brass !!!
Nothing could be more simple or easier than a tie-on nock. I don't need a tool to move it. It screws up and down the string for super easy tuning. Once I have it where I want it, I put a drop of white-out above the nock to mark it's position. If tied properly, it won't move unexpectedly, but the white-out confirms this. I don't need to superglue it. I can move it in the field if I need to. I can micro-tune it easily with 1/4 turns and do it within a couple seconds. It's lighter in weight, won't damage anything under any situation, even if put on wrong. I can make a new one in a minute if needed - even in a remote area while on my yearly elk hunt. I can't think of a single advantage that a brass nock would have over a string nock.
I know were my nock point needs to be on my bows so I use serving thread and tie on my nocks. On a new bow I start out with a brass one till I get it tuned. Since I shoot 3 under I use serving thread and double serve my string for an inch or so for the nock..it doesnt move.
Tie 'em on with waxed dental floss and then gently use a lighter to melt the wax and they'll last a while.
QuoteOriginally posted by dragonheart:
Tie on my own. I have never cared for brass nockset.
I feel the same way.
I use the brass nockset until the string gets finished stretching, then I tie one on.
I just like the looks of it better, and as someone else said.......it will not scratch up your riser or limbs when it is unstrung in a bowcase.
Winterhawk1960
I tie on two nock locators; one above and the other below the arrow nock. I leave a tiny gap (1/16" or so) so the nock isn't pinched when coming to full draw and fall off the arrow rest. I use two because high speed photography (Olympians) shows that the arrow will sometimes slide down the string varying amounts after release,
If you use a tied on nock locator the folks who make the string material recommend AGAINST putting a drop of glue on the knot. In their tests this glued spot is where string breaks occur.
I called Brownell and asked about the glue on the tied on nock locator by the way.
It's been about 20 years ago but apparently in 4-H a youth received an eye injury due to a brass nock locator coming off and bouncing into the eye. For this reason NASP began disallowing use of the brass nock locator for safety reasons in 2005.
Tied in with serving material, and a light coat of superglue being careful not to get any on the serving itself, only on nock pt.
When served tight enough, it's adjustable, and once in place it never moves. But if you have to move it, you can. No tools required :thumbsup:
A lot easier on my shooting gloves as well :thumbsup:
Left brass behind years ago :thumbsup:
Only tie on for me. A long time ago I read a book by Pope that indicated the brass nocking points were wrong on several levels, so I haven't used one since.
That was a good book but I lost it. May Google it and try to find a copy.... "Archery Stuff I Like" by Elroy Pope.
I use tie on only. Several years ago I had problems with glue on nocks breaking at the shot. I shoot 3 under and I thought that maybe the brass nock might be some of the problem.Maybe it was just a bad batch of nocks but they were from two different color batches.There were no sharp edges but I think tha the tie on is more forgiving on the nock. Since I went to a tie on nock I havent had a problem with any glue on nocks breaking.
I tried tied nocks, didn't likem. Didn't last long for me. I have never had any of the mentioned problems with brass.
Gilbert
tie on nocks...just one more thing to go wrong when out hunting. use a brass nock and dont ever worry about it again.
QuoteOriginally posted by Dave Lay:
i like the brass ones, easier to cange if needed after a brace heigth change or something, and last for ever
Me too!
brass for me
I use the brass knock, but after a days worth of stumping, my right index finger really hurts.
Brass nock here too. Although, I shoot three fingers under so the nock is not a problem on my fingers. I do tie on a nock though on my one and only self bow.
I shoot 3 under and use 2 nock points tied from dental floss. Never had a problem with brass messing up my gloves, but it seemed as though my serving was always failing at the brass nock point.
tied on for me
Tie on,brass hard on my tabs.
Tie one on. It will last as long as the string and does not wear on your tab or glove
tie a nock on they are much better and dont muck up ya gloves or tabs or fingers.