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Title: Bowyer warning!!
Post by: bluegill on May 11, 2007, 09:13:00 PM
After a nice T-storm I though it was a great idea to sip some beer and sort osage. Well this is the 2nd time in 3 years that I came across one of these little darlings.  Brown Recluses are bad enough but these are a little more potent.

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Be careful when you are working with stored wood.

Sean
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Post by: Ian johnson on May 11, 2007, 09:26:00 PM
thats a blackwidow!, the guy who taught my dad how to make knives would pick them up and move them to the part of the shop with lots of bugs
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Post by: Chortdraw on May 11, 2007, 09:34:00 PM
They keep them for pets out here in Az. I'm not to crazy about them. As long as they are eating bugs they are ok but they lay lots of eggs and hatch lots of babys. I try to remove as many egg sacks as I can find. The Recluce is the one that is scary!!
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Post by: Jason Kendall on May 11, 2007, 09:41:00 PM
Nasty, I just dont like spiders of any kind! I am sure glad them widows and recluses havent made thier way up to Northern IA! Well, I am sure there are some around but I have never seen or heard of one locally.
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Post by: longstick on May 11, 2007, 10:27:00 PM
EWWWWWWWWW  A WIDDER!
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Post by: Dan Worden on May 11, 2007, 10:29:00 PM
Ain't ya supposed to smash that in the side of the riser?
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Post by: the Ferret on May 11, 2007, 10:40:00 PM
Hmm I don't see why guys would like Black Widows so much...they ugly   :biglaugh:
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Post by: Roadkill on May 11, 2007, 11:13:00 PM
does the string go on the first second third or fourth set of legs?
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Post by: Barney on May 11, 2007, 11:19:00 PM
Those pesky little critters used to be all over the shop at work. I've thinned the herd quite a bit.
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Post by: Carbon Caster on May 11, 2007, 11:40:00 PM
If it was on a piece of wood I had in my shop, the only thing I would have had to photograph would have been a BIG black spot left after I smashed it with the longest handled sledge hammer I could grab!!!!!!

I am petrified of ALL spiders, but those suckers and those blasted HAIRY monsters scare me to the poing of heart attack.  I make my wife and 3 little girls kill all the spiders at my house.  I even have a bounty out for them.  The girls get 1.00 a piece and the wife gets .25 cents.
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Post by: elk ninja on May 11, 2007, 11:41:00 PM
So are you gonna name one of those bows a "Black Widow?"  Had to ask!
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Post by: Jason R. Wesbrock on May 12, 2007, 12:52:00 AM
I wouldn't give you $20 for a whole barrel full of those.   :D
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Post by: Stormer on May 12, 2007, 05:38:00 AM
You would not like our neck of the woods..Funnel Web spider bites can mean death..Redbacks are common as flies and their bite can sure make you sick.These are followed by Whitetails. A bite can create a ulcer which which is hard to get to heal.Down this way in camp you sure shake the boots out.Still I guess they get their share of bugs.
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Post by: Falk on May 12, 2007, 07:00:00 AM
Hey Stormer, didn't know yet you also have Whitetails in Oz!? Camels, feral Goats, Axis Deer, H2O Buff, etc. - okay - but Whitetails?!  ;)    :p    :D  

Oz is the most poisenous overall continent I suppose. Here we don't have any too nasty critter outside. And any spider, I hate them too, could be easily flattended with one finger ...
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Post by: Mike Gerardi on May 12, 2007, 07:16:00 AM
I hunt with a bow but if I saw that around my house....12ga.
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Post by: ranger 3 on May 12, 2007, 07:56:00 AM
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Post by: ranger 3 on May 12, 2007, 07:57:00 AM
Heres a widow
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Post by: Littlefeather on May 12, 2007, 08:35:00 AM
I hear them Widows are noisy. Did he scream a lot when you grabbed him with those pliers?   :biglaugh:
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Post by: wingnut on May 12, 2007, 08:39:00 AM
Curtis not only noisy but will give ya a heck of a bite on the hand when you try and shoot em.

LOL

Mike
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Post by: UKarcher on May 12, 2007, 09:53:00 AM
I had one crawl over the back of my hand, the second day I was in the US. I wasn't sure what it was until I looked it up on the net. But one thing I wasn't sure of was....would a 45lb bow be heavy enough for those? What sort of point should I use? And do they taste like chicken?  :D
Graham
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Post by: bayoulongbowman on May 12, 2007, 11:02:00 AM
A  Black widar!!! I want mine to be longbow !!  :wavey:
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Post by: Chortdraw on May 12, 2007, 12:47:00 PM
They sure make your joints ache and pain. Some people handle the bite and some get a bad reaction. But you sure know you have been bit! Unlike the recluse which is painless.
  We have a large Tarantula that lives in the front hedges that is interesting to watch.
  Need to call the new bow The Widow Crawler   :bigsmyl:  
Chort
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Post by: George D. Stout on May 12, 2007, 01:06:00 PM
If I had my druthers, I would take a bite from that fellow over a brown recluse.  The venom is not the same for sure.

"The bite of the brown recluse spider can result in a painful, deep wound that takes a long time to heal. Fatalities are extremely rare, but bites are most dangerous to young children, the elderly, and those in poor physical condition. When there is a severe reaction to the bite, the site can erupt into a "volcano lesion" (a hole in the flesh due to damaged, gangrenous tissue). The open wound may range from the size of an adult's thumbnail to the span of a hand. The dead tissue gradually sloughs away, exposing underlying tissues. The sunken, ulcerating sore may heal slowly up to 6 to 8 weeks. Full recovery may take several months and scarring may remain."   Ohio State University Department of Entomology.
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Post by: the Ferret on May 12, 2007, 01:26:00 PM
Sounds delightful GDS.   :scared:
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Post by: George D. Stout on May 12, 2007, 01:50:00 PM
Here you go Mickey:  This will make you look under things!!!

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/oldearcher46/brownreclusea.jpg)

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Post by: Timberghost on May 12, 2007, 05:13:00 PM
Black Widow spiders pack a pretty good punch too. And they are more aggressive and agile than people give them credit for. Only the female's bite is seriously dangerous to humans.  She is the black spider with the red hourglass marking on her abdomen.  The males are kind of brown in color,  smaller,  and venom is significantly less potent.   :scared:  

Y'all "Sleep tight and don't let the bed bugs bite"... he,  he,  he   LOL!    :eek:     :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Brian Krebs on May 12, 2007, 05:56:00 PM
Georges picture is of a recluse; I was bitten on the foot by one; and got blood poisoning (in Michigan). I had no clue what had bitten me until I was told by the doctor.
 When I was a kid a black widow bit me on the hand and that hurt. I got sick but recovered in short order.
 I got bitten the year before last by a hobo; twice; once on my face; and once when I tried to grab what bit me. The hobo bites just kept right on getting worse; and all suggestions to keep the wounds from infection failed; and I got a staff infection and dang near died from it.
  I spray with deadly insecticides and have glue traps all over. Glue traps keep on catching; the insecticides wear off...
 The one that bit me on the face; did something totally typical of hobo spiders- now that I am looking for the little darlings all the time: and that is they are often found around outdoor lights where the bugs are easy to catch.
 I have a porch light over my front door; and the hobo's will drop down on a strand and land on you as you walk under the light. I have caught and killed several this way.
  I would send a picture of the bite on my face; but you just imagine the worst( the bite not my face); and your pretty much there.
  I kill them all now. Jumping spiders are welcome; they are fun hunters to watch; but .. I have a squish firt policy on black widows and recluses and especially hobos.
  My doctor said " gee - all you have left is the yellow sac spider"..... um yeah..
 Black widows are slow; and like to remain motionless; and unless you accidently or intentionally mess with one - your not in much danger.
  Recluses - they feel trapped they bite; but I haven't seen one in this area ever.
  Hobos - you smack one and knock a leg off ; and your probably going to see it coming back to apply equal justice. They run YOUR direction- I hate them!!!!
Title: Re: Bowyer warning!!
Post by: KyGal on May 12, 2007, 07:14:00 PM
Jawge has it right, one should beware of all such critters. A USFS biologist i worked with grew up in South Carolina. When she moved to Missoula she was laughed at because no matter how cold it got she NEVER just took a log off the woodpile. She always flipped them over with a designated stick first.

Black widows are pretty easy to see & deal with. I worry a bit more about the recluses. It may be a day or so before you realize that little itch is turning into a rotting hole in your arm. Most people don't even know they were bit, and the result is as nasty (sometimes worse than)as a poisonous snakebite.
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Post by: The Whittler on May 12, 2007, 08:43:00 PM
We may have some nasty winters, but we do NOT have any of those nasty black widow, brown recluse, or hobo spiders. You can have em.

We do have what we call a wood spider, some of them can get as big as your hand. Don't know if they bite and don't wont to find out lol.  Alan
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Post by: the Ferret on May 12, 2007, 09:07:00 PM
Gosh before I just had an inordinate fear of all snakes and now this   :scared:  crap I can't go anywhere or touch anything now
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Post by: Seeking Trad Deer on May 12, 2007, 10:52:00 PM
no poisonous snakes in maine either...  :thumbsup:
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Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on May 12, 2007, 11:39:00 PM
I am so glad my ancestors came to Canada, I will take winter any day over snakes and spiders.

I work for a company that imports dried fruits and nuts from the middle east and such points and while fixing one of the display cabinets a ginormous furry spider as big as your fist landed with a thud on my bench.

Spiders are not supposed to lade with a thud!!!!!  screamed like a girl and killed it with a hammer till it was paste just to be sure.

My supervisor from Morocco thought it really funny.
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Post by: IB on May 12, 2007, 11:41:00 PM
Just refer to me henceforth as "BUBBLE BOY" I got yer back Mickey  :scared:    :readit:
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Post by: nc recurveman on May 13, 2007, 12:28:00 AM
Brian,    
       quit being a wuss hairy chested preacher-man, honestly we got a boat load of both flavors of the afforementioned and I'll take the widders in spade over the browns. widders make you sick the browns rot a baseball size hole in what they bite no thanx
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Post by: 1/2primitive on May 13, 2007, 09:09:00 AM
I agree with arrow k9, a 12gauge. And magnum.
    Sean
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Post by: Doug Campbell on May 13, 2007, 11:08:00 AM
Hey guys and gals don't be thinkin those widders will just make you sick.

Back in the 70's I was bit on the hand by one and nearly died. In just over an hour I went down, the only thing that saved me was already being at the hospital. Several days in the hospital, 3 intensive care, then like 6 months before I was real healthy again.

While it's a minute amount they pack a toxin that effects the nervous system, involutary mucles, shuts down the heart and lungs. It's said to be 15X more powerful than a rattle snake bite. Obviously some people are more sensitive than others but everybody should treat it seriously.

From himthatdontlikenospider,

Take care!
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Post by: the Ferret on May 13, 2007, 11:41:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Ragi:


Spiders are not supposed to land with a thud!!!!!  screamed like a girl and killed it with a hammer till it was paste just to be sure.

LOL that's funny Ragi    :biglaugh:
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Post by: NY Yankee on May 13, 2007, 12:55:00 PM
They may be beneficial for controlling bugs but if they are in your house or shop, time to declare war!
Hello Raid Spider Killer!
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Post by: Frank V on May 13, 2007, 03:12:00 PM
A .22 pistol with bird shot will scatter one over about 2 counties from 3'. Frank