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Title: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: mattmcdonald on July 17, 2010, 12:46:00 PM
■The estimated nation wide population of the whitetail deer is believed to be 29 million strong up from around 500,000 in the early 1900's when unregulated commercial hunting threatened to eliminate deer all together      ■Each year wolves kill over 40,000 whitetail deer nation wide.  Other predators account for an additional 60,000 deer killed each year
■The term buck comes from the American Frontier when the skin of a Male Deer was worth one dollar or buck
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: kennym on July 17, 2010, 04:24:00 PM
Cool info,but I'm thinkin they don't have fawn predation in the kill figures....
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Post by: Van/TX on July 17, 2010, 04:31:00 PM
an estimated 300000 to 500000 deer are killed nationwide each year by vehicles...Van
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: Pat B on July 17, 2010, 04:40:00 PM
Van, we should open a season on vehicles to slow down the predation! d;^)
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: VTer on July 17, 2010, 04:46:00 PM
An estimated 16-38 deer/year make me look foolish!
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: Van/TX on July 17, 2010, 04:52:00 PM
Pat B, wonder what minumum bow weight would bring down an F-150  :bigsmyl:  ...Van
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: Mojostick on July 17, 2010, 05:20:00 PM
Instead of using the saying "they breed like rabbits", we should say "they breed like deer".

In 1962 the Michigan DNR released 17 deer on South Fox Island, an island of a little more than 3,000 acres, about 5 square miles, some 17 miles from the northern Michigan mainland into Lake Michigan.

The 17 of deer released consisted of six bucks and eleven does. At least two died that winter, so no more than fifteen deer were alive on the island to begin its repopulation.

In 1969, seven years after the first deer were planted on the island, the herd numbered at least five hundred. At least forty more deer had been taken by hunters.

In eight years, the original 15 deer had produced a herd from which at least 620 deer had been killed and the herd still numbered 15 times larger than the number put there in the first place.

If continued intense hunting is not practiced, the herd will double each fall. The island once could provide food for approximately eight hundred deer. Its carrying capacity has now dropped to possibly four hundred."
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: jsweka on July 17, 2010, 05:59:00 PM
I remember reading somewhere that the whitetail deer is the deadliest animal on the planet - due to auto accidents.
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: bawana bowman on July 17, 2010, 06:02:00 PM
Van,
I've read many times on this site #50 will bring down anything in North America    :D .

Guess that would include F150's.   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: Mojostick on July 17, 2010, 06:24:00 PM
jsweka,

A local DNR biologist remarked at a management meeting a few years back that the greatest threat to small game hunting in our area wasn't loss of land due to development or no tresspassing signs, but was the whitetail deer.

Since our area has had historically very high herd numbers, the deer have done very serious damage to the underbrush required for vibrant populations of grouse and rabbits. The deer can literally eat the small game out of house and home.
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: Blackhawk on July 17, 2010, 06:35:00 PM
If the hide of a male deer was worth a buck, they became known as bucks, huh?

So if you brought in a female hide, would you ask, "How much doe for this hide?"   :D  

...sorry, just seemed to go with the other post.  ;)
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: ChuckC on July 17, 2010, 06:52:00 PM
I wonder if a good single bevel would cause the engine to crack ?   Where do you aim on an engine for optimal stopping ? Course, once you get a trail (oil ?) you can probably track it pretty good.
ChuckC
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: red hill on July 17, 2010, 07:22:00 PM
When my daddy started taking me deer hunting in 1965 we were lucky to see 1 deer all season.  Now it's unusual to see less than 25-30 deer before noon on any given day.  Due to our 3 pt rule we are begining to see almost as many bucks as does here in Arkansas.  My pap killed only 1 deer during his life tims.
Stan
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: JamesV on July 17, 2010, 10:01:00 PM
I have a friend that hunted in Ark 8 yrs before he ever saw a deer. Killed the first one he saw. Badluck TOM, everyone else in the club killed 3-6 deer a season.
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: Pat B on July 17, 2010, 11:44:00 PM
Van, 30# for my F-150! d;^)
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: john fletch on July 17, 2010, 11:47:00 PM
I have heard some states in the southeast are geting overun with Whitetail.

Want to trade some of our wolves for your deer?

NW Montana Whitetail population has been in serious decline for the last 8 years. Worse each following year.

Funny how that has followed the reintroduction of the wolf!  A critter our forefathers worked hard to get rid of and no rancher or hunter approved of in this state.  Seems like a deal the Feds just decided we needed real bad!
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: recurvecody on July 17, 2010, 11:50:00 PM
didn't the elk population take a big hit to when they introduced the wolve? i may be thinking of a different state.
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: Brian Krebs on July 18, 2010, 02:15:00 PM
Cody- Idaho took a BIG hit from the wolves; Montana did too; I don't believe the Wyoming people are happy; and Oregon just lost some sheep to two wolves; Washington is seeing some too.
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: Claypipe on July 18, 2010, 11:18:00 PM
An estimated 16-38 deer/year make me look foolish! Originally posted by VTer.             Now that is the funniest thing I have read in a good long while!!!  :laughing:    :laughing:    :laughing:
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: Don Stokes on July 19, 2010, 10:32:00 AM
Van, I prefer the radiator shot. Not quick, but deadly.

Little know facts: deer have been known to eat fish, and sometimes walk on their front legs alone.
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: Custer on July 19, 2010, 10:35:00 AM
We are overrun in Ohio including the suburbs and urban areas.

When I was a kid, we saw one once at our archery club and that became a family story. Now I see deer almost every day.
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: Van/TX on July 19, 2010, 12:36:00 PM
Yep, right in the old boiler room  :knothead: ...Van
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: gregg dudley on July 19, 2010, 01:03:00 PM
Don Stokes, I have seen or read the point about island deer eating fish, but can't cite the source?  Do you have anything on it?
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: gregg dudley on July 19, 2010, 01:06:00 PM
http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/news/press/ontape.htm
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: JEJ on July 19, 2010, 02:24:00 PM
The sight of a large whitetail buck in November by male bowhunters often causes jaws to drop, eyes to bug out, blood pressure to increase, heart rate to accelerate ...  this is known medically as the "Shakira" syndrome, and a cure has yet to be found.     :archer:
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: Don Stokes on July 19, 2010, 02:56:00 PM
Sorry, Gregg, I read about it several years ago in reference to an island up in the Northeast, but I can't remember the details.

After viewing your link, I guess deer have eaten all the bobwhite quail that have disappeared from the local habitat.    :)
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: Bruce Martin on July 19, 2010, 06:24:00 PM
A recent study of fawn mortality in SC was done at the Savannah River Site and reported something like 80% mortality and most of that from coyotes.
Title: Re: neat facts about whitetail deer
Post by: toddster on July 20, 2010, 08:29:00 AM
whitetail deer sense of smell is 25 times better than a dog.  There vision, though controversial, is color blind and see more on a plain of a newspaper, but notice motion, quicker than anything.  No matter how fast an arrow fly's, a nervouse whitetail can still drop below its flight.  A whitetail that is about 200 pounds can walk through the woods and make 1,000 times less noise than a 2 pound squirrel, and has th ability to disappear from view standing behind a bush or few saplings.