I have some crop tags for deer damage. I had perfect wind and weather last night. It worked out and I got lucky. I thought I shot a giant button buck. Turned out to be a huge toothless old doe with small horns.
Has any one ever shot one of these oddities?
I was in a rush, usually I bring my camcorder but naturally didn't this time!
(Bill L's bitter)
I think it might be a one in a million!
I already called the Taxidermist.
My Dad killed one man, many years ago in WVa. It was a spike doe, with about 10" spikes still in velvet. Pretty cool.
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This is a doe that hangs around the house...I have video footage of her two fawns suckling her.
I've been keeping it quiet because I don't want these Geogria rednecks trying to kill her.
Cool Mike, Did you at least get a picture?
I know a guy that shot his firstbuck which turned out to be a doe with spikes. He was a kid then and was disappointed ti find out it was a doe. He didn't realize how rare that is. Also, it was december and still was in velvet. I've found out that that is common for them to stay in velvet. Congratulations on your unusual trophy.
There is a mount of an 11 point doe that used to hang in the Texaco station in Tifton Georgia. There was a newspaper article about the deer framed along side of it. Pretty cool.
A few years back I helped a guy drag out a bull-cow or cow-bull or ........? Anyway it was a cow elk with spikes.
There are some oddities out there.
Biggie- is this the first year you saw her. I'm wondering if she will shed the velvet.
Biggie, are you redneck enough to take her?
There was one killed in IN a few years back with a very abnormal narly velvet rack. From my understanding they never shed their velvet. Very neat.
Geesh Biggie - I thought you were a Georgia Redneck :)
A guy I worked with years ago claimed that he had taken one. I never saw it or any photos,but he wasn't the sort to tell embellish things.
Many years ago myself, brother Gene and Paul Brunner each took antlered does in MT with bows hundreds of miles apart but coincidentally all in one week if I remember correctly. BW
Cool thread! About ten years ago a friend of mine shot a mule deer with a smallish rack, still in velvet, at the end of November. That deer had a huge body. It wasn't a doe but a buck without any testicles. There is a hormone released that tells a buck to rub the velvet from his horns that isn't released in a doe or a buck with parts missing.
During shotgun season 2 years back, a guy tagged a ten point doe back by my old house in SE Ohio.
Mike, she didn't shed last year...still had velvet in November.
Marty, you notice I didn't tell YOU about her when you were here.....
I know where you live.......
I got one in 95.She was a big ol gal, I guess at 160 or so with a spikey 2x1 velvet rack.Ill try and get a pic scanned by weekends end.It was in those pre digital days.Oddly enough, I killed a bearded hen on the same hill the same fall.
I don't have one with antlers but i do have a doe scull with a K-9 tooth. Its very rare !!!
Yes I did some pics.
I was a bit surprised when I rolled her over to she it was female. She has a big old noggen with no choppers left. She's pretty cool looking with typical doe facial features and velvet buttons sticking up.
last year i did some research on does with horns its a horomone imbalance and they never loose there velvet and normaly a very weak rack and its very rare to get one also i learned that a hen can grow a beard kinda the same thing very rare
1 in 12,000 is what Ive researched.Pretty cool.
Shot one in Tyler County West Virginia in 1980. Had an 11" spike on the left and 12 3/4" spike on the right side.
Twenty minutes after I shot it my Dad killed a 12 point buck. It was archery season, but he shot his with his off duty Colt 38 detective special. Claimed he would never have hit it with the bow. Long story but he was probably right, even though the deer was only 12 yards away when he shot it.
i bet someone could get bass pro or cabelas to pay some good cash for a full body mount
Maddog are you sure???
Let's see some pics...
Billy it looks the same as that date you took to the movies before you met your wife. You left all of us guessing with that!!!! Is She or is He!
Nice going Mikey, I have a photo clipping of standard 8 pointer shot in my hometown in the 60's that had NO running gear underneath.
Biggie are all the deer in Georgia Hermaphrodites? :laughing: And what tag would you use on that type of deer.
Ouchhhh Bill!!!! You owe Mike a Hex Head to at least a shin for that one.What movie was it?
Thats pretty cool. So would you tag that as a doe or buck? I think in NY it would be considered a buck.
In Montana, it would be tagged as a buck. The rack is the only real way to tell sex at the time of the shot.
I tagged it as a doe. The buttons/horns weren't long enough to go the other route. They were like 3/4" long, strange deer.
Mike- hope you used a full grown broadhead this time!
In the late 1980's a friend killed a fork horn doe on our land in Nova Scotia. Not in velvet though. I don't know how many times he looked from the "top" to the "bottom", total confusion!
Magnus Buzzcut!!! :) I'm learnen!!
Old coworker shot a 5 pt doe years ago. Biologist then said such animals "happen" about 1 in every 5000.
Dunno if that ratio is still valid.
Tags here read antlered or anterless. When I was a kid my next door neighbors dad shot a 16" spike that was a doe.
I read a biologists paper many years ago that stated it is physically impossible for an antlered doe to shed velvet. All those "antlered does" with no velvet are in fact bucks that grew their testicles elsewhere in their body. Multiple specimens had been dissected only to discover testicles up inside the body cavity, in the guts or wherever. Testicles can abnormally grow almost anywhere, just like teeth.
Is that what those bumps are down below- teeth? I'll have to show my dentist- maybe she can help.
My sister had a chihuahua that only had one testicle. He was all male, based on repeat stud business. When the man with the females pulled into the yard, he would jump in his car as soon as the door opened. He threatened to attack everyone else.
On a good day, I can remember what it was like...
Cool info Gene, thanx for sharing.
i know that gene is right about the velvet but it seems like i read somewhere that they never shed there antlers either does that sound correct
so a doe with horns should be called a duck....lol....thats funny right there. :biglaugh: :laughing:
i was watching the outdoor channel a while back and these guys were shooting does that had a single horn in the middle of the head.kinda strange eh.
In the late 80s a friend of mine shot a six point doe in Llano Tx. It had shed its velvet and had teets and other stuff ladies have. Maybe it had boy stuff in there somewhere else too, don't know. It could happen I suppose. .
The deer did have a full sack of milk. It was around my stand for a while and I didn't see any skippers. After she went down in sight none showed up. I'm guessing she wheened them or yotes got them.
I got in hot water last year for not shooting a doe with skips or shooting the skips. Just can't do it. The lady of the house saw what happened and went off!! She was a cruel Obama supporter!!
Mike you have to be very careful what you show Obama supporters there kinda touchy feely. :D Congrats on a cool trophy.