It is a long shot, and a long ways off still, but I was wondering if the members here could offer up any advice about hunting, fishing, and any other outdoor activities in the areas of Southern TX, AZ, CA, and NM. I would, of course, be interested in types of game, bag limits, ease of obtaining tags for residents, length of season, public lands, etc. Generally anything that could sway my choice one way or another. Thanks in advance.
NM is a draw for elk with no preference pts. offered. I have heard some residents haven't elk hunted in their own state for years...not a plus in my book!
See, thats the kind of stuff Im looking for. Thanks. And I agree totally.
In AZ you can hunt deer in most units with an over-the-counter tag, but the success rates are relatively low. Elk are all draw, but if you don't mind going after cow elk, you can almost get drawn each year.
I will leave the fishing to someone else, I haven't fished in Arizona in over a decade...which tells you a little about how I good feel it is.
AZ has plenty of hiking, but unless you get off the beaten path it can be crowded.
South Texas...hmmmm??? South Texas may be the best place in the world to hunt whitetail deer. There are some real monsters down there.
Licenses are OTC and you must have a hunter safety certificate to hunt alone. You can hunt pretty much continuous from September through December. One thing you need to keep in mind about Texas is that there is virtually no public land in Texas. It is mostly all private except a few areas that are state owned and operated by the Texas Parks and Wildlife agency. If you want a regular place to hunt you must get a lease or own your own land. Leases are not cheap anymore and neither is land.
Hunting is great in Texas. We have whitetails just about everywhere, mulies and antelope in W. Texas, turkey, dove, qual, ducks, javelina, hogs, alligaters and tons of exotics. Mountain lions are considered varmits in Texas and can be shot anytime. Same with coyotes. Fishing is great!
As far as South Texas....that's a pretty general term. If you're talking close to the border I would not recommend that. Things are starting to heat up on the border and until something is done I would not recommend moving to that area.
New Mexico is a draw state and so you can't count on being able to hunt regularly. But if you do draw out, it has some of the finest elk hunting in the country. Best to live in Texas and draw for NM. Your also only about 10-12 hours away from Colorado depend on what part of Texas you live. I live in W. Texas and my elk hunting spot is only 9 hrs away.
That's all I have for now.
Brett
Thanks, keep it coming. This is what Im needing...
Do you like public land? If so, Texas is pretty thin on that. Something like 98% of the state is private. Az and NM have lots of public ground, but as stated earlier, if elk is your thing, they can be a tough draw. Arizona has huge bulls, but odds are pretty slim from what I understand. The border country is pretty scary now in much of Arizona.
What about southern Colorado? Lots to hunt there, lots of public ground, beautiful country.
I'm very partial to Wyoming, but jobs are scarce right now and the winters are as long or longer than your NY winters. Great hunting and fishing here, however. Elk, antelope, turkeys,whitetails and mulies can be hunted every year, and moose and sheep are a (slim) possibility. Bears and mountain lions as well. The fishing can be as good as anywhere in the lower 48 if trout is your thing. Scenery ain't bad, either.
Arizona was really fun when I was out there a few years back. I asked to hunt on Native land because I knew someone there. It was near Tucson. It was amazing and I came back with some Peccary. I took my compound on that one, but I wanted to take the longbow. It just was not in the cards though. Maybe next time.
would hate to see ya leave bro!!!
I think I would look at Wyoming or South Dakota. I went hunting out there and was impressed with the amount of game I saw, that was a few years ago but it was great. I think I might look at Idaho also!
Thats not where the possible job has openings. Very specific about Tx, NM, Az and Ca. Thanks everyone.
hmmm... border states? I'd hate to see you go - don't see you much as it is!
QuoteOriginally posted by ishiwannabe:
Thats not where the possible job has openings. Very specific about Tx, NM, Az and Ca. Thanks everyone.
You
must be applying with the Border Patrol...
I think I'd worry more about career opportunities than elk tags.... :saywhat:
Do you have lots of money? Texas has lot of hunting, but since 98% of the state is privately owned you have to pay to hunt a lot of places, day leases, year lease, or buy land yourself (please do this and let me come hunt it hahahaha).
Now because of the size of the state the size of the public land is fairly large, Sam Houston National Forest is 50 miles north of Houston, and is about 160,000 acres. Now if you are on the border then it can be a bit of a haul to get there.
For example it is about the same distance from NYC to Atlanta, as it is from Houston to El Paso.
When I moved down to Texas I did not understand how big the state actually was.
If you move to Texas I'm going to be your new best friend, then you can invite me down to hunt :bigsmyl:
OK all thanks for the help. I ended up going with NM/West Tx. ;)
California has plenty of opportunity, but primarily in the Northern half. We also have all the beauty, sorry SoCal-ers. Plenty of work, mild winters, warn summers.
What's your vocation? Work is slim in the country in general, but depending on what you do there's always niches.
I live in NM and grew up in CO. Elk hunting is very good here also muleys, javelina, antelope among other things. The draw is a little difficult but better for bowhunters (I drew 3 of 5 this year) than rifle hunters. Fishing is good but not everywhere as there is not a lot of water in much of the state. Lots of public land and outdoor activities just may have to drive a ways depending where you are located in the state. Good luck....Shawn
Who will jump on Terry's bunnys??? :dunno:
Lol, I dont know Curt. Too much going on lately to not try to focus on a career though.
Make the move brother!
I appreciate NY for what it is, but I've hunted enough in other parts of this great country to know there is better places out there, MUCH!.....go for it :thumbsup:
You have to do whats best for you and your family.
I have considered a move to AZ myself but more in the Flagstaff or at least north Phoenix area so I can get north. The bowhunters I know in AZ are out-of-state hunters. They just can't get tags frequent enough in their home state to count on. Its not bowhunting but AZ has some of the best quail and dove hunting in the country.
So what part of W. Texas are talking about????
QuoteOriginally posted by snag:
NM is a draw for elk with no preference pts. offered. I have heard some residents haven't elk hunted in their own state for years...not a plus in my book!
Thats the problem with our states today. A man buys a license in his home state and can't hunt? WOW!!! A resident should never have to draw for a tag in his home state. There are other ways to control populations.
QuoteOriginally posted by NorthernCaliforniaHunter:
California has plenty of opportunity, but primarily in the Northern half. We also have all the beauty, sorry SoCal-ers. Plenty of work, mild winters, warn summers.
I guess you don't get down here much :readit:
There is also The Davey Crockett National Forest farther east in Crockett Tx.
I havent' hunted National Forest land in awhile now but think in some parts now you need a permit. Besides you can only hunt in Archery season and be some what safe but still you don't know who you are hunting with. So best bet is get on a lease.
With CA the tax bite will put a hurt on you same as NY. With NM you are close enough to do trips to Co, AZ and TX. There are some websites that can compare the different places to live and the difference in the cost of living will really surprise you. As a CPA I can tell you it usually works out better to make less and live in an area with a low cost of living rather than making more and living in a high cost of living state since the tax rates are getting more progressive these days and will only get worse.
QuoteOriginally posted by beachbowhunter:
QuoteOriginally posted by NorthernCaliforniaHunter:
California has plenty of opportunity, but primarily in the Northern half. We also have all the beauty, sorry SoCal-ers. Plenty of work, mild winters, warn summers.
I guess you don't get down here much :readit: [/b]
Nope, you're right, I don't. Except during fire season when I worked for CalFire. I guess all that smoke doesn't help one's impressions... but neither does I-5, Bakersfield or L.A. traffic. A successful hunt would likely change my mind though. Perhaps some day I'll have a reason to go south of Monterey. When I do I'll be looking some Tradgangers up for some stumpin'.
Jamie,
I have a clue as to why you are moving and what job you may be looking at. Good luck and I hope to visit.
My little experience with the southwest doesnt include hunting however, I took a 100 mile backpacking trip in NW NM. The mountains and deserts are beautiful. We encountered a lot of big game species. If I'm correct in your career move, You may be alittle further from that region than necessary to hunt it on a regular basis.
Good luck brother, I hope you keep us posted on your journey.
Walleye fishing is still on the table. Just let me know :thumbsup:
I lived in quite a few spots around the country. Texas is tough to beat. In terms of leases, you can get on a decent lease here for pretty cheap if you don't care about killing a huge buck. You can hunt hogs year round, Hunt way into January (extened doe season) and get turkeys in the Spring. Plus you get to live in Texas!!
I would chose Texas personally. Arizona has a lot of public land. Over the counter deer tags, but the success rate is relatively low for archery. Great elk hunting if you can get drawn. Very good javelina hunting and I get drawn every year and there are ussually leftover tags in some units. Bass fishing can be pretty good and there is good trout fishing up north.
Have lived in AZ for 25 years and have enjoyed the hunting and fishing but Co. has more opertunitys. The fishing was good here untill a few years ago when mercury started messing up the lakes.