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Title: Right hand, left eye
Post by: TooManyHobbies on July 08, 2010, 06:18:00 PM
Like I don't have enough problems with my own set up, I'd like to get my son into trad too. He is definitely different. He shoots bow right, shoots gun left, eats with left, but throws with right and is left eye dominant. Where do I start?
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: stevemfwills on July 08, 2010, 06:25:00 PM
ummmm good luck with that...my nephew is the same way...i let him shoot both a right and left handed bow and let him choose
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: Shaun on July 08, 2010, 06:50:00 PM
There are some great shooting Bear Kodiak bows made in the mid 1950's with a shelf on each side. Get him one of those and  let him work it out.
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: ron w on July 08, 2010, 07:03:00 PM
You should let him shoot what ever he is comfortable with.It should feel natural for him when he tries!
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: 3arrows on July 08, 2010, 07:14:00 PM
My son was the same,teach him to shoot his dominant eye so he can be the BEST HE CAN.I had no one to help me when i started and shot right handed for 18 years.Now i have been shooting left for 26 years.Really makes a difference pass 20 yards.
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: Cherokee Scout on July 08, 2010, 07:20:00 PM
Let him shoot however he wants. He will find is own way.
Think about a baseball player or a golfer, are they concerned about eye dominance?
Unless he is using point of aim, it makes no difference.
Now the debate can start.........
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: hunt it on July 08, 2010, 07:25:00 PM
Right handed and left eye dominant here. The only way to go is get him a left handed bow and have him go at it. In the long run if he shoots with his dominant eye he will be more accurate. Not saying he can't do it right handed but he will achieve his best potential with left handed bow.
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: COMPOUNDLESS IN CONCRETE on July 08, 2010, 07:26:00 PM
If you teach him to shoot instinctive, eye dominance doesn't matter because you look at the target and not the tip of the arrow.  

I think if he is already shooting right handed, that is probably what is comfortable to him.

I am ambidextrous as well but can't shoot left handed, it feels like a man hug that lingers too long, awkward and uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: Jack Whitmire Jr on July 08, 2010, 07:31:00 PM
If you don't start him with his dominant eye it will be a major diservice to him IMO.

I know I'm right handed and left eye dominant and was started right handed.


Jack
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: AkBillyBow on July 08, 2010, 07:33:00 PM
I am the same way...right handed but left eye dominant. I shoot right handed, and I think I simply turn my hend into the string a bit more than average (placing my left eye over the string more).  Either way, the brain will figure it out and compensate for it,  It will just take time, like anything.

I can shoot left handed with a lighter weight bow, and actually shoot it better at short distances.  But, it does not feel natural to me, and I cannot pull near as much wieght without loosing my form.

I agree with others that say let him shoot what feels best.  He will have to practice either way, so it really won't be an issue.

The only time I found it to be an issues was sooting with a peep site (compound bow) or shooting with a shot gun.  I cannot hit anything with the shot gun until I close my left eye.  It takes a few misses until I remember!!

AkBillyBow
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: stickbowmaniac on July 08, 2010, 07:42:00 PM
I'm the same as your son.Left i domonant.Shoot a gun left handed and a bow right handed.Don't have any problems shooting a right handed bow.I shoot everything guns and bows with both eyes open.like Akbillybow i can shoot a bow left handed but it has to be lighter poundage.Most of all as long as he is having fun.
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: TooManyHobbies on July 08, 2010, 07:47:00 PM
Since I don't want to get him two bows right away, I like Shaun's idea. Now, let's see if we can find an old Kodiak with two shelves. Thanks for all the quick replies. I'll let him read this thread though, to help ME make up HIS mind. lol.
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: Shawn Rackley on July 08, 2010, 07:58:00 PM
i am left eye dominant. and right handed. i simply close my left eye. has never been a problem for me.
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: bowmofo on July 08, 2010, 08:03:00 PM
I switched to left as I am left eye dominant but it does not matter to much  I shoot instinctively and shoot either way. Poorly I might ad!
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: joebuck on July 08, 2010, 08:03:00 PM
Let him shoot what ever his strongest side is. Then teach him to shoot bow 3 under and look down arrow like vent on his shotgun. Dominant eye now is a non factor!  Strenght and form is more critical than dominant eye. To swap dominant eyes, have him squint a tad in opposite eye. I have same son plus I taught myself to shoot right and left handed. Good luck. Don't Sweat it
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Post by: Bowwild on July 08, 2010, 08:07:00 PM
I'm RH and LH dominant. I shot a bow RH for 28 years and have been shooting LH since 1996. I'd highly recommend you match the string hand do the dominant eye; better peripherial vision, better depth perception, and for some better balance with both eyes open. I've trained several veteran archers who were like I am.  A fellow in ND had shot for 32 years RH with Left eye dominance. He was shooting (according to him, not me) better in two days left-handed.  I'm hoping my grandson is LH domiant when he turns early teens so I has someone to hand down all my LH recurves too! I shoot a shotgun LH but rifles and handguns RH.
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: Don Batten on July 08, 2010, 08:27:00 PM
If he learns to shoot both ways, he could be like the NC state basketball player from the 80's, Charles Shakelford. He said on espn, " I can dribble with my right and left hand, I'm amphibious" LOL.

Seriously, I shot bows as a kid lefthanded and guns righthanded. Throw and kick and bat left. So I'm kinda in the sameboat. When I learned about dominant eye, I started shooting bows right handed. Yes, awkward at first but by the end of one session I could see improvment in my accuracy. Never looked back. DB
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: mattmcdonald on July 08, 2010, 08:43:00 PM
i am the same way eat with my left throw right and do most things right handed and am also left eye dominate and shoot left handed it works well for me beacuse i can shoot with both eyes open id get him a left handed bow
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: BA on July 08, 2010, 08:44:00 PM
I like the way Joebuck puts it.  He showed me three fingers under and said to treat it like a shot gun and it made all the difference in the world.  I am right handed and left eye'd.  Doesn't seem to matter at all.
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: Canyon on July 08, 2010, 09:17:00 PM
Go with the dominant eye. It was almost magic once I realized my son was left eye dominant and switched him to a lefty bow. He didn't like it at first but as the hits started coming he changed his mind.
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: Lewis Brookshire III on July 08, 2010, 09:28:00 PM
I am right handed and left eye dominant. I shoot with my left eye squinted to make my right eye dominant, it has always worked for me.
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Post by: Dave Schneider on July 08, 2010, 09:39:00 PM
My son is the same LH, RE.  I taught mine to shoot bow and gun LH from the begining.  He never knew any different.
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: Guru on July 08, 2010, 09:50:00 PM
My Cade started out rt handed when he was 3yrs. old, when he got old enough to test, found out he was lt. eye dom.....switched him when he was 6 to a lefty bow.

He's nine now and shooting great....I'm glad I switched him when I did....

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Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: chad graham on July 08, 2010, 10:17:00 PM
i would lean toward the dominant eye,in my case i am right handed and but shoot a bow left handed.i switched three years ago after finding out i was left eye dominant i shot right handed for 20 plus years for me the switch was easy it felt natural from the first shot.i did start with a 36# bow at first then jumped up in poundage.
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: hunt it on July 09, 2010, 08:53:00 AM
Do your son a big favour and buy him a left handed bow. Why complicate things, do some research elsewhere on eye dominance and accuracy. Sure there are many that say either is ok but this wheel has been invented and studied and proven. Accuracy potential is with the dominant eye period. Sure he can learn and shoot right handed as many have but they are not reaching their full potential and are only fooling themselves. Unless handicapped or an injury dictates there is no argument for starting him out any way but the proper way - LEFT HANDED.
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: LAR43 on July 09, 2010, 10:31:00 AM
I have to agree with everyone who recommends going to the dominant eye side.
Did that with my grandson 3 yrs ago. He's 13 now & he shoots better than he ever did w/ a lot less frustration. Kids need to realize success in order to stick with any accuracy required sport.
It kept him in trad archery. . . All shooting sports for that matter.

Get him a lefty bow he can handle. He'll pick it up in no time.

Hunt It is spot on IMO.

Larry
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: hydrasport205 on July 09, 2010, 11:23:00 AM
I am the same way  AKBILLYBOW is right i shoot the same way lean my head farther into the string  your brain will compensate and do the rest for you
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: J. Holden on July 09, 2010, 11:37:00 AM
I'm a right handed everything but left eye dominant.  I switched a few years ago to shoot left handed, best decision I made as far as set up goes.  It didn't take long before it felt natural.  Now I pick up a right handed bow and it feels awkward.  Go to the left on this one.

-Jeremy
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: joebuck on July 09, 2010, 12:13:00 PM
TooMany....Not all is lost if he can't switch over......there was a couple fellows shot cross dominant like your son......a guy from Alabama was pretty handy with a longbow...Howard Hill shot right handed but left eye dominant....Ole boy from Grayling Michigan named Fred filled a museum up with trophy animals. Mr. Bear shot left handed but was right eyed and think his sometime hunting partner Glenn St. Charles was too?  if he shoots pure instintive ( doesn't see the arrow) it doesn't matter, if he shoots a secondary vision  system ( sees the arrow). he can manipulate his dominant eye by squinting one eye and dominance switches......shotgunners use a spot of tape on field glasses...........main thing someone said earlier is it is all about fun!  i have 5 and 8 year old boys myself with some cross dominance.
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: TooManyHobbies on July 09, 2010, 03:04:00 PM
I got a lot more responses than I thought I would. Thanks everyone. It seems there is an argument for each way.
BTW, my son is 18 and doesn't like compounds, so I hope he is a natural trad shooter.
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: Red Boar on July 09, 2010, 03:18:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by COMPOUNDLESS IN CONCRETE:
If you teach him to shoot instinctive, eye dominance doesn't matter because you look at the target and not the tip of the arrow.  

I think if he is already shooting right handed, that is probably what is comfortable to him.

I am ambidextrous as well but can't shoot left handed, it feels like a man hug that lingers too long, awkward and uncomfortable.
With respect, I have to strongly disagree.  I've bowhunted for 28 years, but I am relatively new to traditional archery.  Honestly, I almost gave it up due to this problem.  If I shoot where I think I am looking my groups are pretty nice, but an entire foot left of my aim point.   :(   This was the same no matter which bow I used...and I tried a bunch.  Finally (after talking to Mike Treadway) he suggested squinting my left eye...I found it easier just to close it.  Wow, it cleared the problem right up.    ;)   If I was young and just starting, I'd go with the dominant eye....alas, I am 51 and it is too late for me to make a dramatic switch like that.  Best of luck.
Title: Re: Right hand, left eye
Post by: adeeden on July 09, 2010, 03:20:00 PM
I grew up similar to your son, Batted right handed, played the field left handed, shot a gun lefty and a bow righty, and am left eye dominate.

I shot bows right handed from the time I could walk until I was 27, then decided to order a left handed recurve to just play around with.

Within 6 months I was shooting better than I ever had and have stuck to the left side ever since. In hind sight i widh I would have started shootinf lefty as a youth!
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Post by: joebuck on July 09, 2010, 04:05:00 PM
ooooooooopppps   ..he's 18 ?!.....well...i change my advice..i would buy him the lightest weight left hand bow and switch him over to dominate eye dominant hand. i thought he was a little guy and would get discourage.........he's grown.