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Title: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: B/W lvr on July 04, 2010, 05:30:00 PM
I was off shooting for 2 months after back surgery and worked my way up from 45 to50 and today I went to 57 and it was very heavy. Used to shoot 65 with no sweat and doubt if I could pull it today. Am I just a woots or is this normal after that much lay off? Frank
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: Robert Miller on July 04, 2010, 05:59:00 PM
I would suggest shooting the 50, and slowly working your way up to 57. I know when my father messed his shoulder up he would shoot his lighter bow a few time and then would shoot a heavier bow one or twice a day after streching out with the lower poundage you will slowing work back into the heavier weight, but by all means allow your body to let you know when the time is right.
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: Mike Gibbs on July 04, 2010, 11:33:00 PM
I shoot 47lbs., which is way under what I can draw.  The advantage is that I don't have to maintain strength.  The 47 is always easy, and has proven itself to be all I need.
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: Doug in MN on July 04, 2010, 11:43:00 PM
Be easy on your back and work your self slowly up to the weight agian.
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: fentiger on July 05, 2010, 12:07:00 AM
Mike, yup do not expect too much from yourself and you will never be let down.

No doubt you expect less than stellar accuracy too! ALL I need?

What has happened to archers/hunters,less is more. This is not catch and release fly fishing with a half pound tippet!

Maybe original poster has something more in mind than a suicidal WT by a 4" up 3" out eastern tree hugger! All you need right!
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: Rob DiStefano on July 05, 2010, 07:57:00 AM
time and injury takes its toll.  do yerself a big favor and go no higher in holding weight that your body allows, so that you can still shoot 'n' hunt decades from now without any issues.    

a good 50# stickbow is a viable weight for taking most any critter in north america (provided all the other caveats are met - sharp broadhead, well flying arrow, your ability to hit the spot ya pick, etc).
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: cbCrow on July 05, 2010, 08:33:00 AM
I had back surgery 10 years ago and was trying to build back up to my shooting weight of 50-60lbs. when I reinjured myself. I finally let common sense take hold and now shoot bows in the 35-45lbs ranges. They'll do it for you and you can keep shooting. Good luck to you B/W!  :archer:
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: Ken Taylor on July 05, 2010, 12:24:00 PM
Through the years I've had several surgeries including a left major pectoral and tendon reattachment, a right elbow clean up and repair, and a left shoulder operation. (old competitive armwrestler)

Start slow and try to learn to differentiate between "good" therapy pain and "bad" dangerous pain during your rehab.

As you heal you have to ask slightly more of yourself gradually in order to improve or to get back to where you were.

My longest break from pulling a bow back was probably two months but some of my more serious surgeries have taken up to two years to be unnoticeable.
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: fentiger on July 05, 2010, 12:41:00 PM
Our bodies for most of us are far more capable of strength/stamina than we ask of them.

Sensible training/preparation does no harm except to the egos of couch potatoes.

No archer has ever had an animal turn at release transforming a gimme broadside into a sickening crack and zero penetration or...?

Yup get the govt. to ban the use of all bows over 55# so no egos are threatened because some choose to hunt with heavier bows.

Why is the use of heavier bows always the cause of the health issues. Me thinks maybe the common denominator could be LACK of year round practice/fitness training as bubba STRUGGLES to pull back the bow after putting it down 9 months ago. Yes deer season is here again.
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: Tsalagi on July 05, 2010, 05:30:00 PM
Um, Fentiger, they were talking about getting back up to par post-surgery, not bow weight injuries. Just sayin'...   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: fentiger on July 05, 2010, 05:56:00 PM
Um Tsalagi, please read Mike's post followed by Rob's post both weight specific. Just readin'

So sportsmen who suffer injuries should throw in the towel and learn to set their expectations lower or work back to it sensibly?
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: James Wrenn on July 05, 2010, 07:39:00 PM
Sure everyone should use a bow weight that will kill cleanly the things they hunt.That is a given but some just need or think they need much more that others.After hunting with everything from over 100lb to 40lb stickbows I have learned what is enough for what I hunt.Like Mike I shoot bow weights that do not need constant shooting or weight training to handle.Not everyone has the time to work just to shoot a heavier bow that they need for the job.There is nothing in this world that a 60lb bow will kill that could not be killed just as dead with a 50lb bow.I would not worry if getting back up to 65lbs does not work out.As long as your bow weight is legal for where you hunt a few more lbs mean nothing at all. jmho
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: Tsalagi on July 05, 2010, 08:16:00 PM
Yeah, my bad.   :archer:
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: fentiger on July 05, 2010, 08:44:00 PM
JW, funny thing lots of hunters drive HD pick-ups and never tow or haul real loads but then pick on me for my heavy bow poundage as they laugh at our girlie Subaru.

Methinks.....;-]
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: dtarbell on July 05, 2010, 08:55:00 PM
Who is picking on you for your bow weight?Shoot what ya want stud.
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: fentiger on July 05, 2010, 09:04:00 PM
Obviously another english comprehension challenged poster;-]

My point, shoot what you want girlie ;-]?
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: James Wrenn on July 05, 2010, 10:11:00 PM
Funny but I never know what weight guys around me are shooting.It never comes up when we shooting.They shoot what they want like I do.Sorry if you get picked on but I suspect you ask for it as you trying to do in this thread.   ;)  Shoot what you use well and no one will ever have anything to say about whaty you are shooting.If you can handle heavy weights that is great.Some of us don't care to but all that comes out in the shooting.We can tell if you are trying to shoot more than you really can.   ;)    :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: Tsalagi on July 05, 2010, 10:36:00 PM
Fentiger, I was thinking maybe I missed something and so said "My bad". I didn't miss anything. I suppose you can't hear anything anyone else says over the sound of your own awesomeness, right?   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: fentiger on July 06, 2010, 12:53:00 AM
I shoot a quite unusual set up and am more than willing to let anyone try it who cares to at the range. I get many questions from frustrated barebow single stringers and compounders who are generally used to seeing less than acceptable hunting accuracy from single stringers;-[

JW funny but every time I am at the range folks always tell me the details about their bow and want the scoop on mine. Heck even here and other sites they publish their bow specs next to their names.

Must now apologise for my way too subtle sarcasm aimed at the Obama inspired archery nanny brigade. Did I strike a nerve?;-]
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: Tsalagi on July 06, 2010, 01:07:00 AM
"Must now apologise for my way too subtle sarcasm aimed at the Obama inspired archery nanny brigade."

You don't need to apologize. You need to grow up.
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: COMPOUNDLESS IN CONCRETE on July 06, 2010, 01:20:00 AM
fentinger, if taking a thread topic out of context were to become a sport, you would be an Olympic gold medalist.  Might wanna consider letting off the testosterone overdrive button a little.  

I am sure that you are a mountain of a man with a physique that looks like it was chiseled out of granite and you probably eat raw meat and motor oil for breakfast and we are all in utter amazement of your awesomeness, but keep in mind that most of us are not in 6th grade and the girly jokes and the "I am more of a man than you are" remarks only make you look like a fool.
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: fentiger on July 06, 2010, 03:51:00 AM
CIC, gently here, did you read ALL the posts? Did you comprehend them? From your post I doubt it.

Obviously Saul Alinsky is the new poster kid for debate style?

Grow up never! Kids have dreams! Adults have excuses or worse yet lawyers for their failings.

Will continue with help from Sisyphe to acheive my goals on my terms, my choices. Failure does not come from attempting to acheive something and not reaching the goal. Effort alone is sucess.

Maybe original poster was looking for help/encouragement and not an excuse to give up trying to be where he was before.


"I am the way, the truth, and the life, no man cometh to the father except by me." John 14:6

Only one way = intellectual constipation!
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: hardtimes on July 06, 2010, 06:36:00 AM
QuoteI suppose you can't hear anything anyone else says over the sound of your own awesomeness, right?
Just sayin what everyone else is thinking   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: Tsalagi on July 06, 2010, 09:41:00 AM
Hey, Fentiger, you haven't made many posts here. So far, all I've seen you contribute are snarky, childish remarks.

The folks here are a great bunch of guys who will always be here to help people. But you're already on your way to alienating people here through uncalled for sarcastic remarks and self-aggrandizing backpatting of a nature that impresses no one.

So, here's some advice for you, since you're so into telling others what to do: Put a sock in it already. We are not impressed.  "[dntthnk]"
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: COMPOUNDLESS IN CONCRETE on July 06, 2010, 11:44:00 AM
Fentiger, one way = intellectual constipation?  Coming from a "guy" with diarhea of the mouth, your opinions and remarks don't hold much water.  Why don't you go join over at archerytalk.com where you can beat your chest and run your mouth with more of your own kind.
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: fentiger on July 06, 2010, 11:46:00 AM
Interesting way of helping folks is to encourage them to accept less? Ring a bell with the state of the nation?

The original poster wanted? to get back to where he was. HIS choice.

But no as usual he was encouraged by some to accept less because it is all he needs.

Guess I had better quit while I am still clearly behind.

Tsalagi, thank you for leaving no doubt.
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: COMPOUNDLESS IN CONCRETE on July 06, 2010, 12:10:00 PM
He was asking if his experience after a layoff due to injury and surgery was normal.  The advice given was to start out with a light weight bow and work his way back up.  

Not pulling every single pound that your are able to pull by mustering every bit of strength you have doesn't mean somebody is "accepting less."

Have a good day fentiger.  I'm gonna go outside and shoot my girly bow.  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: Tsalagi on July 07, 2010, 12:08:00 AM
Congratulations, Fentiger! You're first on my Ignore List!

 :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: cahaba on July 07, 2010, 01:47:00 AM
"Common sense" Some have it, some don't.
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: cbCrow on July 07, 2010, 07:36:00 AM
fentiger,   :biglaugh:    :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Bow weight after a layoff
Post by: wingnut on July 07, 2010, 07:43:00 AM
Surprised your up in weight this soon after surgery.  What does your doctor say?

I had neck surgery 4 weeks ago and the dr. just let me start shooting light bows again.  He highly recommends that I don't shoot over 50# ever again.  I'm going to listen.

Mike